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How Many Votes Do You Expect to be Early Votes Nationwide?

0-10%
22
7%
10-20%
51
17%
20-30%
85
28%
30-40%
66
21%
40-50%
45
15%
50%+
39
13%
 
Total votes : 308

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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:00 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:I hope Kennedy does not win. I'm honestly tired of the Kennedy family and view them as the descendants of 1960s Barack Obama. If you dont think Kennedy was alot like Obama, consider the fact that:

•He was the first Irish catholic president.
•He actually liked war
•People romanticize his presidency when in reality he was actually kind of a sleazebag
•Liberal boomers talk about John Kennedy every 5 minutes


Yeah, the Kennedy family has definitely worn out their welcome. The sense of entitlement of political families annoys me to no end, be they Bushes, Bidens, Clintons, or Trumps.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:00 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:I hope Kennedy does not win. I'm honestly tired of the Kennedy family and view them as the descendants of 1960s Barack Obama. If you dont think Kennedy was alot like Obama, consider the fact that:

•He was the first Irish catholic president.
•He actually liked war
•People romanticize his presidency when in reality he was actually kind of a sleazebag
•Liberal boomers talk about John Kennedy every 5 minutes

Kennedy singlehandedly managed to stop the Cold War going nuclear on not one but two occasions…


Kennedy caused the Cuban Missile Crisis.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:01 pm

Valrifell wrote:Man, MA has some British town names.


What is New England?
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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:01 pm

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Well, I did say potentially but I should have phrased it differently: it would hurt them in the immediate future. But there's a big worry among progressive groups there that Kennedy could be in the Senate for decades given he's young (39) and well, his name says it all. Progressives are hoping that Markey runs this one last time and then they can field another Progressive that's a woman of color; Kennedy winning could take that away from them in the Senate.

Either way, Markey leads right now 50.8% to 49.2%.



The latter is unlikely if I'm being honest: that's just wishful thinking right there. That being said, if Biden can hold a decent lead into the end of the night on Election Day, I think he'll be in a good position then. Otherwise, we're going to be waiting, and perhaps a bit too.


and that gives Trump and Republicans fodder to claim fraud


And there's nothing you can do about in all honesty: they're going to claim fraud regardless of how fast the results come, especially Trump. The man doesn't want to be prosecuted. Yes, it coming in faster and with Biden in the lead would undermine their claims but that won't stop them from preaching it. Nothing election officials will do will satisfy Trump unless he wins.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:03 pm

Zurkerx wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
and that gives Trump and Republicans fodder to claim fraud


And there's nothing you can do about in all honesty: they're going to claim fraud regardless of how fast the results come, especially Trump. The man doesn't want to be prosecuted. Yes, it coming in faster and with Biden in the lead would undermine their claims but that won't stop them from preaching it. Nothing election officials will do will satisfy Trump unless he wins.


I guarantee you they are going to try and block as many votes from being counted as they can and stir up conspiracy theories about elections officials cooking the books as they say

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Postby Valrifell » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:03 pm

Bear Stearns wrote:
Valrifell wrote:Man, MA has some British town names.


What is New England?


The region of the Northeast United States which were primarily settled by the British after taking the land from the natives who lived there before. Known for the Plymouth colonies and other places started by religious protestant groups including Connecticut.

The region typically includes the states of Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Rhode Island.

Y'all can't take something said tongue-in-cheek smh.
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Postby Loben III » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:04 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Bear Stearns wrote:
What is New England?


The region of the Northeast United States which were primarily settled by the British after taking the land from the natives who lived there before. Known for the Plymouth colonies and other places started by religious protestant groups including Connecticut.

The region typically includes the states of Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Rhode Island.

Y'all can't take something said tongue-in-cheek smh.


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Postby Valrifell » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:05 pm

Markey has pulled out somewhat, leads 52.1% - 47.8%
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:05 pm

Loben III wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
The region of the Northeast United States which were primarily settled by the British after taking the land from the natives who lived there before. Known for the Plymouth colonies and other places started by religious protestant groups including Connecticut.

The region typically includes the states of Vermont, New Hampshire, Maine, Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Rhode Island.

Y'all can't take something said tongue-in-cheek smh.


Oh! he said it! someone screen cap it!


I'm confused.
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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:06 pm

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And there's nothing you can do about in all honesty: they're going to claim fraud regardless of how fast the results come, especially Trump. The man doesn't want to be prosecuted. Yes, it coming in faster and with Biden in the lead would undermine their claims but that won't stop them from preaching it. Nothing election officials will do will satisfy Trump unless he wins.


I guarantee you they are going to try and block as many votes from being counted as they can and stir up conspiracy theories about elections officials cooking the books as they say


I'm sure they will but their efforts I view will backfire, especially since there will be more people voting early this year; I believe most States offer early voting as is people can go to their polling station and vote. But undoubtedly, they'll try to undermine the results, which is a big political gamble.
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Postby Shrillland » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:07 pm

Ok, time for the first calls:

GOP MA-Senate: Kevin O'Conner
Dem MA-6(Salem-Lawrence): Seth Moulton
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:07 pm

Zurkerx wrote:
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I guarantee you they are going to try and block as many votes from being counted as they can and stir up conspiracy theories about elections officials cooking the books as they say


I'm sure they will but their efforts I view will backfire, especially since there will be more people voting early this year; I believe most States offer early voting as is people can go to their polling station and vote. But undoubtedly, they'll try to undermine the results, which is a big political gamble.

and Trump has been stacking the courts with lapdogs

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Postby United States of Devonta » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:08 pm

Dave Wasserman has seen enough.

He has called the MA senate race for Markey!
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Postby Your Plastic Pal whos FUN to be with » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:09 pm

Major-Tom wrote:Let's go Ed!

Markey's got this. Joe Kennedy III will be denied this time.

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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:09 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:
I'm sure they will but their efforts I view will backfire, especially since there will be more people voting early this year; I believe most States offer early voting as is people can go to their polling station and vote. But undoubtedly, they'll try to undermine the results, which is a big political gamble.

and Trump has been stacking the courts with lapdogs


All administrations do that to be honest though some Trump appointees have went against him. The bigger problem would be the Supreme Court since things would likely be appealed to it: the current makeup of the court is not so friendly to certain voting rights.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:10 pm

United States of Devonta wrote:Dave Wasserman has seen enough.

He has called the MA senate race for Markey!


Honestly, so have I.
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Postby Post War America » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:10 pm

United States of Devonta wrote:Dave Wasserman has seen enough.

He has called the MA senate race for Markey!


Some good news, now hopefully Neal gets the boot.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:10 pm

Zurkerx wrote:
San Lumen wrote:and Trump has been stacking the courts with lapdogs


All administrations do that to be honest though some Trump appointees have went against him. The bigger problem would be the Supreme Court since things would likely be appealed to it: the current makeup of the court is not so friendly to certain voting rights.


That's what concerns me is they would pull another 2000 and stop vote counts before they are finished

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Postby Shrillland » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:11 pm

Yes, I have to agree:

Dem MA-Senate: Ed Markey

Now to see if Kennedy's own district will embrace the tide and approve Mermell.
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Postby Zurkerx » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:13 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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All administrations do that to be honest though some Trump appointees have went against him. The bigger problem would be the Supreme Court since things would likely be appealed to it: the current makeup of the court is not so friendly to certain voting rights.


That's what concerns me is they would pull another 2000 and stop vote counts before they are finished


I do think by the time it reaches the Supreme Court, most votes would have been counted given technology has improved since 2000. Not to mention, early voting will be more common this time around. Those not counted would likely be disputed ones, which could make or break Trump or Biden.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:13 pm

Zurkerx wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
That's what concerns me is they would pull another 2000 and stop vote counts before they are finished


I do think by the time it reaches the Supreme Court, most votes would have been counted given technology has improved since 2000. Not to mention, early voting will be more common this time around. Those not counted would likely be disputed ones, which could make or break Trump or Biden.

Hopefully it doesnt come to that.

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South Odreria 2 wrote:GRANDPA ED WINS, DEFEATED KENNEDY FLEES INTO EXILE NEVER TO RETURN


a Kennedy lost?

another tragedy to add to the list.
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Postby Blargoblarg » Tue Sep 01, 2020 6:15 pm

Asle Leopolka wrote:Joe Biden's team brings official campaign signs to 'Animal Crossing'

The pandemic has forced the Biden-Harris campaign team to get creative, from live-streamed events to socially distanced interviews. But we didn’t see this coming. Beginning today, Animal Crossing: New Horizons players can add official Biden-Harris campaign signs to their island yards, The Verge reports.

At the moment, there are four sign designs -- the official Biden-Harris logo, the Team Joe logo, a “Joe” Pride logo and an image of red, white and blue aviators. To add the signs to their yards, players will scan QR codes through the Nintendo Switch Online app. The campaign has also sent the signs to a handful of gaming influencers, who will share them throughout the day tomorrow.


Interesting strategy. I doubt they'll pull in many new voters with this, as it looks like most players are not eligible to vote or are already on team D, but it's definitely a novel approach.

This kinda feels like the 2020 version of Hillary's "Pokemon Go to the polls" to me.
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Aureumterra wrote:Kennedy singlehandedly managed to stop the Cold War going nuclear on not one but two occasions…

He, along with Khrushchev, helped push it to the brink both of those two times.

Khrushchev was a clown, and a hilariously incompetent one at that. People praise him solely for not being Stalin, but looking at him alone, from an objective perspective, he was a terrible leader.

Kennedy on the other hand managed to keep communism contained, as well as allow West Berlin to survive, even though Reagan delivered the knockout punch to communism, Kennedy stopped it before it got out of hand, once it spread to China, it may as well have continued onwards to the rest of Asia and Africa
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