Idk, having access to Internet doesn't sound like being poor to me.
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by Kowani » Fri Jul 03, 2020 12:53 am
Eurasies wrote:Incredible that there are people who criticize the United States from their iPhone and know more about Venezuela than a Venezuelan, unusual.
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by Shanghai industrial complex » Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:15 am
Eurasies wrote:Shanghai industrial complex wrote:Venezuela has never been a socialist country. It's just against the US and close to Russia.Maybe it make people think of Guba.
Because the ruling Party is the United Socialist Party of Venezuela ?, Because the traitorous soldiers march saying "We are socialists, chavistas and anti-imperialists" ?, Because Cuba, Russia and Iran bring mercenaries to Venezuela ?, FROM INSURANCE TO PERPETUATE "PEACE "
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:29 am
Shanghai industrial complex wrote:Eurasies wrote:Because the ruling Party is the United Socialist Party of Venezuela ?, Because the traitorous soldiers march saying "We are socialists, chavistas and anti-imperialists" ?, Because Cuba, Russia and Iran bring mercenaries to Venezuela ?, FROM INSURANCE TO PERPETUATE "PEACE "
Claiming to be socialist doesn't mean it's true.Socialism is committed to industrialization, social welfare and poverty eradication.They will also do their best to develop education, health care and provide jobs.Just like Cuba and North Korea, although the income is not high, it has perfect and good medical services and a very high educated population.If the government can't do it, or if it doesn't try to do it, it's clearly not socialism.
Venezuela's economic problems are due to a lack of industrialization and over dependence on oil. When oil prices fall, Venezuela's economy is ruined.This has nothing to do with socialism.I can understand your complaints about a bad life.But this is really not the fault of socialism.
by Plzen » Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:48 am
Shanghai industrial complex wrote:They will also do their best to develop education, health care and provide jobs.Just like Cuba and North Korea, although the income is not high, it has perfect and good medical services and a very high educated population
by Shanghai industrial complex » Fri Jul 03, 2020 1:51 am
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:Shanghai industrial complex wrote:Claiming to be socialist doesn't mean it's true.Socialism is committed to industrialization, social welfare and poverty eradication.They will also do their best to develop education, health care and provide jobs.Just like Cuba and North Korea, although the income is not high, it has perfect and good medical services and a very high educated population.If the government can't do it, or if it doesn't try to do it, it's clearly not socialism.
Venezuela's economic problems are due to a lack of industrialization and over dependence on oil. When oil prices fall, Venezuela's economy is ruined.This has nothing to do with socialism.I can understand your complaints about a bad life.But this is really not the fault of socialism.
Venezuela's oil production is on a long downward trend. That's probably the fault of the government, not reinvesting enough. Insofar as the government is socialist, it IS the fault of socialism.
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:03 am
Shanghai industrial complex wrote:Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
Venezuela's oil production is on a long downward trend. That's probably the fault of the government, not reinvesting enough. Insofar as the government is socialist, it IS the fault of socialism.
Looking back on the news in 2015, Obama launched the first round of sanctions against Venezuela.International oil prices fell and have been at a low level since.
Venezuela's crude oil quality is poor, and the cost of refining and extracting is too high.Under the current oil price, the more you sell, the more money you lose.What's more, sometimes it can't be sold.It will never get better unless they develop alternative industries.
https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/brent-crude-oil
by Shanghai industrial complex » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:04 am
Plzen wrote:Shanghai industrial complex wrote:They will also do their best to develop education, health care and provide jobs.Just like Cuba and North Korea, although the income is not high, it has perfect and good medical services and a very high educated population
I’m sorry, North Korea has what now?
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by Shanghai industrial complex » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:10 am
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:Shanghai industrial complex wrote:Looking back on the news in 2015, Obama launched the first round of sanctions against Venezuela.International oil prices fell and have been at a low level since.
Venezuela's crude oil quality is poor, and the cost of refining and extracting is too high.Under the current oil price, the more you sell, the more money you lose.What's more, sometimes it can't be sold.It will never get better unless they develop alternative industries.
https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/brent-crude-oil
My graph showed a downward trend in production since 2000, ie about when Chavez took power.
It's not really about the current price, or even the last two years. Your source isn't that relevant.
by Plzen » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:16 am
Shanghai industrial complex wrote:Stable electricity, transportation, communications. Medical and educational coverage for all, good social security.No homelessness and low unemployment.
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:17 am
Shanghai industrial complex wrote:Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
My graph showed a downward trend in production since 2000, ie about when Chavez took power.
It's not really about the current price, or even the last two years. Your source isn't that relevant.
Emmm..You're right.This is strange.They destroyed their only profitable business.What happened?No matter how stupid people are, they will not refuse to make money.
by Shanghai industrial complex » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:31 am
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by Nobel Hobos 2 » Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:05 am
The Lone Alliance wrote:Unfortunately in the US Socialism is has to not only compete with Capitalism on the right
it also has to compete with "Woke Capitalism" which uses Leftist Social Issues to make Capitalism look acceptable.
by Nogodia » Fri Jul 03, 2020 4:18 am
Shanghai industrial complex wrote:
Stable electricity, transportation, communications. Medical and educational coverage for all, good social security.No homelessness and low unemployment.
Because of sanctions, there is no oil, fertilizer and industrial raw materials.Food and consumer goods are in short supply, and cars and agricultural machinery cannot run.People are malnourished.
Of course, North Korea has already deviated from the socialist road, citing a bad example.I'm sorry.
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