NS Stats - Trends, Correlations, Anti-Correlations, Oh My!

[Valentine Z]

Could we get primitiveness vs scientific advancement? I am sure their will be a decent negative relationship, but we have been told from the start they are not quite opposites. I am really curious how common outliers there are.

Yeah, sure, I will get to it! ^^

I have been a tad busy, so... do pardon me for that!

[Leutria]

Could we get primitiveness vs scientific advancement? I am sure their will be a decent negative relationship, but we have been told from the start they are not quite opposites. I am really curious how common outliers there are.

Yeah, sure, I will get to it! ^^

I have been a tad busy, so... do pardon me for that!

No worries. I had been holding off making a request to keep your queue from getting to large, but decided I should just say it before I forgot

[Valentine Z]

Yeah, sure, I will get to it! ^^

I have been a tad busy, so... do pardon me for that!

No worries. I had been holding off making a request to keep your queue from getting to large, but decided I should just say it before I forgot

Nah, it's fine! The queue getting longer doesn't affect me much. It's just me feeling that I think sooner or later, the data is getting outdated and I would need to trawl a new one.

Though... I am actually holding off before a new Beta, or a change in a stat. ^^; Don't worry about the requests! ^^

[Valentine Z]

Sorry for the delay once again! Here it is, the 13th trend analysis for this data trawl!

Linear-Linear:

Log-Log:

Linear-Log:

Log-Linear:

So... you know the drill. As the public healthcare improves, so does your citizen's health. There is a positive linear correlation between Public Healthcare and Health, so there is that. The positive trendline is of the equation Y = mX + C -> Y = 0.0019230747657161906 X + 0.6351387557233711

Or Y = 0.0019231 X + 0.63514, at 5 significant figures.

However, as with any other NS Stat correlations, there are always bound to be exceptions, and this is no exception. This time, I took being good with having < 2000th in the ranks. And being bad with > 140000th, if it makes sense. I decided to go for the pure ranks instead of the numbers. So, let's get started!

< 2000th for both Public Healthcare and Health: 165 nations.
< 2000th for Public Healthcare, BUT > 140,000th for Health: 24 nations. Finalanswer Archive with 17753.39 for Public Healthcare, but lousy with 0.32 for Health.
> 140,000th for Public Healthcare, BUT < 2000th for Health: 13 nations. Enrichment with -10.1 for Public Healthcare, but did extremely well with 87.01 Health.
> 140,000th for both Public Healthcare and Health: 1118 nations.

The absolute numbers are not exactly the main point, since it was rather unfair to select only < 2000th rankers for top-scorers, while the bottom has perhaps 30,000+ ranks below. The main point is that there are still exceptions, though of course, these are still kept rather low. You could have the best public healthcare, but maybe the people just don't eat that a lot of bananas. On the other hand, a good private healthcare that is accessible and cheap to all can also be beneficial, such as with some nations you can see up there.

The absolute top and bottom scorers:
- Northern Borland yet at it again with -117.94 for Worst Public Healthcare, AND 0.2 at Worst Health.
- Yuumura Kirika with 36351.24 for Best Public Healthcare, with 41.32 for non-best Health.
- Achiotopia with 9384.41 for a decent Public Healthcare, with 90.6 for Best Health.

Northern Borland keeps appearing in my trends and top-scorers (or bottom-scorers). They're like Euler, I just might need to look at the second best/worst.

[TalAkMaChen]

This proves again, public spending on healthcare is not enough to get healthy citizens. It supports, though.
Well, Northern Borland also got some of the lowest average lifespans (about 14 years), so people there literally work themselves to death. Rapidly so. No clue how they can reproduce (I don't see the Vat-grown infants policy there ) with that short lifespan, but still they manage somehow.
On the other hand, with more than 90 "bananas ingested per day" that's just crazy and not healthy at all. But just how the game states on health.

[Valentine Z]

This proves again, public spending on healthcare is not enough to get healthy citizens. It supports, though.
Well, Northern Borland also got some of the lowest average lifespans (about 14 years), so people there literally work themselves to death. Rapidly so. No clue how they can reproduce (I don't see the Vat-grown infants policy there ) with that short lifespan, but still they manage somehow.
On the other hand, with more than 90 "bananas ingested per day" that's just crazy and not healthy at all. But just how the game states on health.

The Vat-grown infants used to be something like "No Sex", and it was this one weird policy that I still has as a side effect of a high Scientific Advancement. I told myself that it's non-canon since "Ain't no Valentine Z without people having sex!"

Then now it changed to something else, and so there's that!

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I'm sure Northern Borland will come back again when Economic Output and Industries are compared. They have $$$ all over their nation! As for the health comparison... I am not sure if eating 90 bananas a day will absolutely crap out someone.

As an off-topic, there are possible health risks with eating too much. Source!

Eaten in moderation, there are no significant side effects associated with eating bananas. However, eating the fruits in excess may trigger headaches and sleepiness, Flores said. She said that such headaches are caused by "the amino acids in bananas that dilate blood vessels." Overripe bananas contain more of these amino acids than other bananas. "Bananas can also contribute to sleepiness when eaten in excess due to the high amount of tryptophan found in them," she said. Magnesium also relaxes the muscles — another sometimes-benefit, sometimes-risk.

Bananas are a sugary fruit, so eating too many and not maintaining proper dental hygiene practices can lead to tooth decay. They also do not contain enough fat or protein to be a healthy meal on their own, or an effective post-workout snack.

Eating bananas becomes significantly risky only if you eat too many. The USDA recommends that adults eat about two cups of fruit a day, or about two bananas. If you eat dozens of bananas every day, there may be a risk of excessively high vitamin and mineral levels.

The University of Maryland Medical Center reported that potassium overconsumption can lead to hyperkalemia, which is characterized by muscle weakness, temporary paralysis and an irregular heartbeat. It can have serious consequences, but you would have to eat about 43 bananas in a short time for any symptoms of hyperkalemia to occur.

According to the NIH, consuming more than 500 milligrams of vitamin B6 daily can possibly lead to nerve damage in the arms and legs. You would have to eat thousands of bananas to reach that level of vitamin B6.

[Bears Armed]

A request: I'd be interested in seeing how Most Beautiful Environment correlates with Most Primitive...

[Khoronzon]

Speaking from experience, I think the main contributor to high health besides public healthcare is food standards, which isn't that easy to find in stats, followed by drug regulations and environmental protection. Banning cars plays a part as well. If you look at Achiotopia, the highest scorer in Health but far below the top scorers in Public Healthcare, it seems to reflect this - very high environmental protections, no cars, and while cannabis is legal, tobacco and alcohol are not. A potential way to determine food standards would be to compare Pizza Delivery - which more or less corresponds to fast food - with more "organic" food industries such as Agriculture or Cheese Exports, and in Achiotopia, Pizza Delivery is well into the negatives while Cheese Exports are in the top 1%. I'm not sure how much of a factor private healthcare is, or if NS stats even really acknowledge it - there may be a few issues that do, but I don't think it features very prominently.

[Valentine Z]

A request: I'd be interested in seeing how Most Beautiful Environment correlates with Most Primitive...

Added! ^^

Speaking from experience, I think the main contributor to high health besides public healthcare is food standards, which isn't that easy to find in stats, followed by drug regulations and environmental protection. Banning cars plays a part as well. If you look at Achiotopia, the highest scorer in Health but far below the top scorers in Public Healthcare, it seems to reflect this - very high environmental protections, no cars, and while cannabis is legal, tobacco and alcohol are not. A potential way to determine food standards would be to compare Pizza Delivery - which more or less corresponds to fast food - with more "organic" food industries such as Agriculture or Cheese Exports, and in Achiotopia, Pizza Delivery is well into the negatives while Cheese Exports are in the top 1%. I'm not sure how much of a factor private healthcare is, or if NS stats even really acknowledge it - there may be a few issues that do, but I don't think it features very prominently.

With the new Beta stats on Food Quality... I think we could do up Food Quality vs Health vs Healthcare, or just FQ vs Health. Would be interesting and I can't wait for it to come out!

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One thing I might have missed out is how there is Public Healthcare, but no Private Healthcare specifically. The only indicator is the lackof, and you have to assume that there are at least private companies coming in. Of course, there exists third-world countries and nations that has neither Private nor Public healthcare and even if they do, they are not able to serve the large population well. I wonder if I should look into that...

In short, Lack of Public Healthcare = Private Healthcare, that is my assumption. But I am also now aware that there are nations that possible has none. Those nations that simply does not have Public or Private stuff, and are left to Black Markets. Hmm... Black Markets!

[Trotterdam]

< 2000th for Public Healthcare, BUT > 140,000th for Health: 24 nations. Finalanswer Archive with 17753.39 for Public Healthcare, but lousy with 0.32 for Health.

I figure they're full of mad doctors who perform all sorts of horribly unethical experiments on their "patients".

With the new Beta stats on Food Quality... I think we could do up Food Quality vs Health vs Healthcare, or just FQ vs Health. Would be interesting and I can't wait for it to come out!

Based on the hints we've been given about that beta, it seems like it's intended to be more about gourmet food rather than food safety.

[Valentine Z]

< 2000th for Public Healthcare, BUT > 140,000th for Health: 24 nations. Finalanswer Archive with 17753.39 for Public Healthcare, but lousy with 0.32 for Health.

I figure they're full of mad doctors who perform all sorts of horribly unethical experiments on their "patients".

With the new Beta stats on Food Quality... I think we could do up Food Quality vs Health vs Healthcare, or just FQ vs Health. Would be interesting and I can't wait for it to come out!

Based on the hints we've been given about that beta, it seems like it's intended to be more about gourmet food rather than food safety.

You do have a point there for the first one...

Aww, darn it. Still, would make for an interesting trend. FQ vs Health, hehe. Is gourmet food better? Or are people better off eating instant noodles and microwaveable meals?

[Merconitonitopia]

Well, Northern Borland also got some of the lowest average lifespans (about 14 years), so people there literally work themselves to death. Rapidly so. No clue how they can reproduce (I don't see the Vat-grown infants policy there ) with that short lifespan, but still they manage somehow.

They do have slavery and child labour. Perhaps that gives us a hint.

[Merconitonitopia]

On paper, the SA stat is based on the average citizen's general science knowledge.

I think it's the description that's off and doesn't quite match how it's calculated. It's definitely a separate stat from Intelligence, which is more about the education level of average citizens.

Intelligence appears to have little to do with education in my experience. This nation is top 8% education and 24th for ignorance (inverse of intelligence).
I wouldn't be surprised if intelligence had no derivative element at all. It appears to be based more so on individual issue answers.

[TalAkMaChen]

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Intelligence appears to have little to do with education in my experience. This nation is top 8% education and 24th for ignorance (inverse of intelligence).
I wouldn't be surprised if intelligence had no derivative element at all. It appears to be based more so on individual issue answers.

So people in your schools just learn "crap" while the gov pours money into the school system? Yes, that can also happen. Not just 24th in ignorance, also close to top ten in primitive. Maybe the teachers themselves aren't the brightest either, which sort of explains increasing ignorance/primitiveness over the recent months (of game, i.e. years of the nation's people's life I'd say)

[Bears Armed]

One thing I might have missed out is how there is Public Healthcare, but no Private Healthcare specifically. The only indicator is the lackof, and you have to assume that there are at least private companies coming in. Of course, there exists third-world countries and nations that has neither Private nor Public healthcare and even if they do, they are not able to serve the large population well. I wonder if I should look into that...

In short, Lack of Public Healthcare = Private Healthcare, that is my assumption. But I am also now aware that there are nations that possible has none. Those nations that simply does not have Public or Private stuff, and are left to Black Markets. Hmm... Black Markets!

I was told by an Issues Editor that they could code for private healthcare having an effect if people write issues about it, but that the default assumption is its absence.

[Candlewhisper Archive]

Well, what we can do is have issues that mention private healthcare, and then code an increase to retail industry and health without a corresponding increase in government health spending or taxation.

So yeah, that's about as close as we can get.

[Valentine Z]

One thing I might have missed out is how there is Public Healthcare, but no Private Healthcare specifically. The only indicator is the lackof, and you have to assume that there are at least private companies coming in. Of course, there exists third-world countries and nations that has neither Private nor Public healthcare and even if they do, they are not able to serve the large population well. I wonder if I should look into that...

In short, Lack of Public Healthcare = Private Healthcare, that is my assumption. But I am also now aware that there are nations that possible has none. Those nations that simply does not have Public or Private stuff, and are left to Black Markets. Hmm... Black Markets!

I was told by an Issues Editor that they could code for private healthcare having an effect if people write issues about it, but that the default assumption is its absence.

Ahh, fascinating! Then I can rule on the possibility that there are nations that has to rely on Black Market. Maybe the BM either helped them with their Health, or completely crap them out. After all, Black Markets are pretty darn shady.

[The Seven Seas]

Would it be possible to see how specific policies or death rates interact with rankings? Like comparing the primitiveness on nations with a space program to nations without a space program?

[Garden at 6th Mile Road]

Would it be possible to see how specific policies or death rates interact with rankings? Like comparing the primitiveness on nations with a space program to nations without a space program?

I can do the latter without problem (taking Death Rate as the third axis / Z-axis), which you will see pretty soon on what I have in mind. ^^

As for the policies... That might be slightly difficult, but I'll see what I can do. I couldn't do it for this 2nd trawl unfortunately, because the data I got are old, and it would be rather inaccurate if I trawl for just policies now.

With that said... I think I could fetch new data soon!

- Valentine Z

[Pangurstan]

You can extract the rough percentage of government spending in each category based off of stats provided that you know the amount of government expenditure. Most of the government spending categories are tied to a stat (Environment is tied to ecofriendliness, defense is tied to defense forces, industry is business subsidization, etc). All of the stats related to the economy have the sidebar labeled @@CURRENCY@@ (except income equality, wealth gaps, and tax rate). If you multiply that by the number of people in your country, you have the total amount that you spend on it. If you divide that by the amount of government spending, you have the percent of government spending,

I have 5018.61 business subsidization, which means that I spend 5018.61 currency per capita on industry. If I multiply that by 2.977 billion, I get 14940.4 trillion in total. That divided by 191 trillion is 7.8%. The actual number according to the pie chart is 7.9%

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Spending Category	Stat
Administration	?
[td]Defense	Defense Forces
Education	Public Education
Environment	Eco-Friendliness
Healthcare	Public Healthcard
Industry	Business Subsidization
International Aid	Foreign Aid
Law Enforcement	Law Enforcement
Public Transport	Public Transportation
Social Policy	?
Spirituality	?
Welfare	Welfare

[Merconitonitopia]

If only it was that simple, Paguristan.

My government budget: 1,655 trillion
Defense = 32.5%
Defense Forces = 102,668.89
Population: 14,228,000,000
Defense Forces * Population = 1,461 trillion
1461/1655 = 88.26%

It also isn't 32.5 percent of GDP, so we know spending isn't GDP * tax rate (my tax rate is 100 percent).

[Valentine Z]

I apologise for the radio silence once again. I will be making 1-2 more analyses tomorrow in the queue.

As for the Expenditure Percentages, don't worry. I got that covered for the next trawl! The small problem for me is to get ALL the expenditures, because for example, if your nation has exactly 0% Military budget, it will not show up. I will need to code to get that going, but that can be done.

If only I have the time and to stop procrastinating. ^^

I don't need to do a 3rd trawl for all the other stats, because AFAIK, there are no big changes to the trends with the Betas. Nations have dramatic stat changes over these weeks, but those are normal; I am waiting for Beta to affect some things.

[Apabeossie]

I would like to see an influence vs WA endos/population/residency comparison.

[Valentine Z]

Intelligence (Y) vs Public Education (X) for this time! Let's look at the trends once again.

Linear-Linear:

Log-Log:

Linear-Log:

Log-Linear:

It is indeed a positive correlation for the most parts, it seems! For the linear-linear graph, the linear trendline of 0.006824073352079489 x + 16.590523550838473 has been added just for comparison.

The log graphs, on the other hand, gives a bit more detail into the world of < 0. The Symmetrical Log is a blessing, I swear! Anyway, going back to the trend, you can see that there are generally more nations that has > 0 for Public Education. Something of note is that even for nations with less-than-stellar Public Education, there are smart people all around. Perhaps this is a presence of the Private Education, or maybe there are Black Markets in terms of education... or something else along the line. On the other hand, nations with good Public Education will not guarantee smart people; there are still nations that has dumber people than the ones with little to non-existent Public Education.

The extreme corners are as follows:

• Northern Borland at it again with the lowest Public Education of -105.64. The intelligence is 290.89, so... they are not the lowest for everything!
• Blogotopia has the highest Public Education of 90846.10, with an equally impressive Intelligence of 319.85.
• Illumitrol and Copercia have the lowest Intelligence of 0.12, while having 1319.55 and -51.48 for Public Education respectively.
• Tzo has the highest Intelligence of 688.19, and they also have an impressive Public Education of 49001.85!

Are nations with low Public Education harbor dumb people? Well, not always!

• There are 966 nations with > 140000th for both Intelligence and Public Education. The general trend of "No Public Education, dumb people" applies to them.
• 2 nations with < 1700th for Public Education, but > 140000th for Intelligence. This is the exception of "Good Public Education, but not a lot of bright people."
• 3 nations with > 140000th for Public Education, but < 1700th for Intelligence. This is the exception of "Maybe there is Private Education or Black Market, but a lot of smart people."
• 145 nations with < 1700th for both Intelligence and Public Education. The general trend of "Good Public Education, Smart people" applies to them.

[Betelgeuse Alliance]

Even though I don't really use NS Stats all that much, I still love these comparisons! Can I suggest multiple ideas? If yes, here they are:

- Recreational Drug Use & Health
- Economic Freedom & Compassion
- Economic Freedom & Welfare

I'm pretty curious about these! Admittedly though, I use http://www.mwq.dds.nl/ns/results/ to perfect my stats, which is why mine may seem unusual, but it also helps me to somewhat learn how the issue effects work, and uncover certain effects and relations between stats, so it might be of interest for you too in case you're not aware of that site yet. Some examples of my stats: my drug use seems pretty over-the-top (though I don't know exactly how much of my population uses drugs), yet I'm still in the top 5% for healthiest citizens, which doesn't seem too bad. Then there's my pretty high economic freedom rating along with a pretty large wealth gap and flat tax rate, yet I still have very compassionate citizens along with a fairly strong safety net.