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by Gormwood » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:16 pm
by The East Marches II » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:16 pm
by Samudera Darussalam » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:18 pm
by The East Marches II » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:18 pm
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:21 pm
by Nakena » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:23 pm
Samudera Darussalam wrote:Bear Stearns wrote:
Can anyone name a benefit of diversity outside of ethnic food (which is mitigated by recipes being available on the internet anyways)?
Knowing people from other cultural background enables us to be more open-minded. It also helps to dispel certain stereotypes of others, bred either in our own environment or from the media. There are certain aspects of their culture, not necessarily related to food or religion, that can be made to enrich our own.
In my country, the interaction we had with people from China, Arabia, Europe, and India over the centuries left us with an unique culture, a mix of both native culture and the ones we adopted from the outside. Though I have to admit that conflicts indeed happen sometimes, living in it is mostly a pleasant experience. Not all multicultural country is Yugoslavia. The main principle is an equal respect from the many parties to each other, and I don't think it's that hard to do that.
Samudera Darussalam wrote:The main principle is an equal respect from the many parties to each other, and I don't think it's that hard to do that.
by Pannerstone » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:25 pm
Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:Pannerstone wrote:
Aboriginals were diversified to death with the influx of anglo-saxons
I think you missed a detail there. Tasmanian Aborigines were hunted down, not "diversified to death".
Mainland Aborigines weren't destroyed by diversity, rather the opposite. Deprived of the best land (by force as well as by legal trickery) they were reduced in number to fit the carrying capacity of their remaining poor land, meanwhile the towns and cities full of immigrants thrived.
Though there aren't a lot of Aborigines now, they were not destroyed completely. In parts of Australia they are the majority.
None of this should be unfamiliar to you, it parallels very closely what happened to indigenous Americans.
by Nobel Hobos 2 » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:29 pm
Pannerstone wrote:Nobel Hobos 2 wrote:
I think you missed a detail there. Tasmanian Aborigines were hunted down, not "diversified to death".
Mainland Aborigines weren't destroyed by diversity, rather the opposite. Deprived of the best land (by force as well as by legal trickery) they were reduced in number to fit the carrying capacity of their remaining poor land, meanwhile the towns and cities full of immigrants thrived.
Though there aren't a lot of Aborigines now, they were not destroyed completely. In parts of Australia they are the majority.
None of this should be unfamiliar to you, it parallels very closely what happened to indigenous Americans.
Meh if hundreds of thousands on anglos had kids with the aborginials they would eventually be bred out of the gene pool for all purposes regardless if they fought or not. If the population becomes more anglo then they go away. Its why so many american natives look pretty much white because there gene pool is practically wiped minus some reservations.
by Samudera Darussalam » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:34 pm
Nakena wrote:Samudera Darussalam wrote:The main principle is an equal respect from the many parties to each other, and I don't think it's that hard to do that.
The big problem is with certain aggressive expanding (imported) monocultures who seek to push, extinquish and destroy all others. They're an actual threat to any diversity and freedom.
by Pannerstone » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:44 pm
Samudera Darussalam wrote:Nakena wrote:
The big problem is with certain aggressive expanding (imported) monocultures who seek to push, extinquish and destroy all others. They're an actual threat to any diversity and freedom.
Well, yes. The problem we have is similar yet also different. The threat that you mentioned, perhaps come from the recent ones that have yet to be integrated into society. Meanwhile.....mine comes from certain parts of the native population, because of certain foreign influence. That's why I think, while others may not agree, certain values such as equal respect to each other may have been taught to kids.
by Samudera Darussalam » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:47 pm
Pannerstone wrote:Samudera Darussalam wrote:Well, yes. The problem we have is similar yet also different. The threat that you mentioned, perhaps come from the recent ones that have yet to be integrated into society. Meanwhile.....mine comes from certain parts of the native population, because of certain foreign influence. That's why I think, while others may not agree, certain values such as equal respect to each other may have been taught to kids.
Whats wrong with natives?
by Pannerstone » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:48 pm
by Greed and Death » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:51 pm
by Loben The 2nd » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:52 pm
by Samudera Darussalam » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:54 pm
by Kowani » Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:54 pm
Well, almost. Midterms do tend to do well in midterms, but conservatism in the US is facing a serious crisis, similar to the Democrats were at the end of the Progressive Era.The East Marches II wrote:Kowani wrote: 2020 will be a good test, but 2022 will be a greater wave.
The party out of power does very well in midterms. I would not say the Republican wins in 2014 and 2010 especially indicated any massive right wing shift. I do expect as with what happened with Obama, for them to suffer as the Democrats did at the state level tbh.
They’re already there. Better to educate them than create an underclass.Kowani wrote:Because Turkey places most of them in camps, and lacks the infrastructure needed for an initial investment in them.
Investment in the poorly educated?
Most of the Stans speak Languages from a different branch of the Turkic Family.Why wouldn't Turkey just take already educated people from the Stans who share their language (somewhat)
Well, Turkey does already take immigrants from the Stans.and the culture already?
True.Some of them are in camps, more are working in the South and there are about a million or so who moved to work in the West of the country illegally.
Kowani wrote:Lumen said what now?
My usual riposte is just legalize slavery instead this convoluted system so you can sleep better at night. This is the only real use that maldeveloped, poorly educated people will have. Which is why I addressed it if that were the case, perhaps I am mistaken which is why I left my post a bit open ended if you had perhaps another idea on how they could contribute.
by The East Marches II » Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:26 pm
Kowani wrote:Well, almost. Midterms do tend to do well in midterms, but conservatism in the US is facing a serious crisis, similar to the Democrats were at the end of the Progressive Era.
Kowani wrote:They’re already there. Better to educate them than create an underclass.
Kowani wrote: Most of the Stans speak Languages from a different branch of the Turkic Family.
Kowani wrote:Well, Turkey does already take immigrants from the Stans.
Kowani wrote:Economically speaking, he’s not wrong. The agriculture sector would collapse if not for illegal immigrants.
Kowani wrote:Yeah. You give them citizenship, which allows them protection from their employers, the ability to organize for their wages, and you make higher education free. Proper levels of public welfare spending allow them to establish autonomy and begin living with actual dignity.
by Katganistan » Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:47 pm
by The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile » Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:50 pm
by Cekoviu » Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:12 pm
The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile wrote:They should be resettled in their own country.
The state's purpose should be to serve its own people, not a foreign people. Taking in refugees is, in fact, a detriment to the native people, and thus the state should not do so.
by Gormwood » Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:16 pm
The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile wrote:They should be resettled in their own country.
The state's purpose should be to serve its own people, not a foreign people. Taking in refugees is, in fact, a detriment to the native people, and thus the state should not do so.
by Thyrgga » Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:44 pm
Gormwood wrote:The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile wrote:They should be resettled in their own country.
The state's purpose should be to serve its own people, not a foreign people. Taking in refugees is, in fact, a detriment to the native people, and thus the state should not do so.
The natives didn't figure that out at Jamestown.
by Gormwood » Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:50 pm
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