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Which would be your favored candidate for the 2020 Republican Party presidential nomination?

Donald Trump
47
27%
Rocky De La Fuente
5
3%
Joe Walsh
4
2%
Bill Weld
23
13%
Bob Ely
0
No votes
Zoltan Istvan
6
3%
None of the above/other
30
17%
David Hasselhoff
58
34%
 
Total votes : 173

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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:07 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
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The Cheeto needs all the help he can get. :P


I'd laugh old boy but I might sob a bit too.


Drink more. It makes things seem more.........okay. :(
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Postby The East Marches II » Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:08 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
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I'd laugh old boy but I might sob a bit too.


Drink more. It makes things seem more.........okay. :(


You are a good influence, that is an excellent suggestion and just what the doctor ordered.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:10 am

Everything for the cat.

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:57 am


Who plagiarized who though? The Donald is pretty old.
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Postby Gormwood » Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:20 am


He really has this pathological need to have his snowflake ego jerked off. Pathetic.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Dec 11, 2019 3:03 am

Gormwood wrote:

He really has this pathological need to have his snowflake ego jerked off. Pathetic.

I mean, that's page five news. The headline here is in his haste to...what are the kids calling it now? "Meme magic" or whatever, he's cast himself as Thanos literally moments before Thanos is defeated and his hubris at underestimating his opponents does him in. Oh, and of course, Thanos is a genocidal maniac.

Like, okay...they like being 'the bad guy' (obligatory 'duh'). Then do the one from Infinity War, have Pelosi throw "impeachment" at him and he says "You should have aimed for the head" and snaps. Thanos at least won that movie and the Avengers had to go through a lot of shit to undo it. You know what? It even took five years. Enough for a second term. But he...well, not 'he', I don't think Trump even knows who Thanos is, but one of his sycophantic meme generating minions instead chooses the worst possible moment to 'be' Thanos in the Infinity Saga.

It is to laugh is all.
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Postby Gormwood » Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:44 am

Unexpected shocker, Betsy DeVos is a profiteering cunt.

Betsy DeVos Overruled Education Dept. Findings On Defrauded Student Borrowers
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:28 am

Gormwood wrote:
Myrensis wrote:
Because as the article notes, there are specific protections in the Civil Rights Act for discrimination based on race or nationality.

This will essentially allow them to declare that criticism of Israel violates the civil rights of all Jews...regardless of whether they're actually Israeli or not.

As I said, it would bring up some interesting conflicts of interest as Ivanka and Jared would effectively be foreign nationals holding high positions in the U.S. government.

I doubt it'll actually work like that.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:30 am

Ifreann wrote:
Gormwood wrote:As I said, it would bring up some interesting conflicts of interest as Ivanka and Jared would effectively be foreign nationals holding high positions in the U.S. government.

I doubt it'll actually work like that.


Of course not. It'll only work in the ways it needs to to ban criticism of Israel.
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Postby Gormwood » Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:40 am

Vassenor wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I doubt it'll actually work like that.


Of course not. It'll only work in the ways it needs to to ban criticism of Israel.

Given how boycotts are for the most part historically ineffective, this snowflake fear and loathing of BDS is like an attempt to hype it up for the public.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Dec 11, 2019 5:43 am

Vassenor wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I doubt it'll actually work like that.


Of course not. It'll only work in the ways it needs to to ban criticism of Israel.

Exactly.
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Postby Zurkerx » Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:29 am

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Postby Bear Stearns » Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:15 am

Gim wrote:Cohen, Schiff. They are all faithful democrats of the American society.


lol
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Postby The Archregimancy » Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:28 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
I'm sure AIPAC will be pleased.


The Cheeto needs all the help he can get. :P


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Postby Fahran » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:35 am

Ifreann wrote:In an effort to shut down BDS movements on college campuses Trump will sign an executive order designating Judaism a nationality, not just a religion. He's enshrining the dual-loyalty myth into law.

Honestly, Trump is taking proactive steps to more concretely incorporate ethnically Jewish people and Israelis into the 1964 Civil Rights Act which prohibits discrimination on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, or national origin. BDS and many movements like it are hotbeds of Antisemitism that tacitly encourage and promote public institutions funded by tax-payers discriminating against groups of people based on their ethnicity and national origin. So, yeah, there's nothing actually wrong here. Y'all just have an issue with Jewish self-determination.
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Postby Fahran » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:37 am

Myrensis wrote:This will essentially allow them to declare that criticism of Israel violates the civil rights of all Jews...regardless of whether they're actually Israeli or not.

The working definition of Antisemitism means that denying Jewish self-determination or calling Zionism intrinsically racist would constitute bigotry. You can still argue that settlements are unjust. You just can't call for the abolition of Israel specifically out of all the nation-states in the region. Because, yeah, that's almost always racist.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:40 am

Fahran wrote:
Ifreann wrote:In an effort to shut down BDS movements on college campuses Trump will sign an executive order designating Judaism a nationality, not just a religion. He's enshrining the dual-loyalty myth into law.

Honestly, Trump is taking proactive steps to more concretely incorporate ethnically Jewish people and Israelis into the 1964 Civil Rights Act which prohibits discrimination on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, or national origin. BDS and many movements like it are hotbeds of Antisemitism that tacitly encourage and promote public institutions funded by tax-payers discriminating against groups of people based on their ethnicity and national origin. So, yeah, there's nothing actually wrong here. Y'all just have an issue with Jewish self-determination.


How is it anti-Semitic to boycott Israeli products?
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Postby Gormwood » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:41 am

Fahran wrote:
Ifreann wrote:In an effort to shut down BDS movements on college campuses Trump will sign an executive order designating Judaism a nationality, not just a religion. He's enshrining the dual-loyalty myth into law.

Honestly, Trump is taking proactive steps to more concretely incorporate ethnically Jewish people and Israelis into the 1964 Civil Rights Act which prohibits discrimination on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, or national origin. BDS and many movements like it are hotbeds of Antisemitism that tacitly encourage and promote public institutions funded by tax-payers discriminating against groups of people based on their ethnicity and national origin. So, yeah, there's nothing actually wrong here. Y'all just have an issue with Jewish self-determination.

You're not even a Trump staffer or Republican official and you're trying to rationalize his impulses.
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Postby Fahran » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:43 am

Vassenor wrote:How is it anti-Semitic to boycott Israeli products?

It's Antisemitic to specifically boycott Israeli products because the de facto motivations of organizations that oppose Jewish self-determination are, at their roots, Antisemitic. "I don't want the Jews to have a state" isn't a tolerant sentiment. It's considered bigotry in most civilized settings. When you find yourself agreeing with actual Neo-Nazis on the Jews, Vass, you might want to reevaluate your stance on the issue.
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Postby Fahran » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:44 am

Gormwood wrote:You're not even a Trump staffer or Republican official and you're trying to rationalize his impulses.

No. I'm simply supporting civil rights, Gauth. :^)
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Postby Valrifell » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:46 am

"I don't like Israel for the settlements and so I won't support products produced by their company"

-racist, apparently.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:48 am

Fahran wrote:
Vassenor wrote:How is it anti-Semitic to boycott Israeli products?

It's Antisemitic to specifically boycott Israeli products because the de facto motivations of organizations that oppose Jewish self-determination are, at their roots, Antisemitic. "I don't want the Jews to have a state" isn't a tolerant sentiment. It's considered bigotry in most civilized settings. When you find yourself agreeing with actual Neo-Nazis on the Jews, Vass, you might want to reevaluate your stance on the issue.


So basically you have no idea what the anti-Israeli protests are actually protesting against and just decided it's opposing Jewish self-determination.
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:49 am

Fahran wrote:
Gormwood wrote:You're not even a Trump staffer or Republican official and you're trying to rationalize his impulses.

No. I'm simply supporting civil rights, Gauth. :^)


Dropping white phosphorous on civilian population zones is a civil right. :)
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Postby Fahran » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:49 am

Valrifell wrote:"I don't like Israel for the settlements and so I won't support products produced by their company"

-racist, apparently.

BDS is de facto a racist project. We can point to a minority of its activists who aren't actual bigots but that doesn't excuse the fact that it's objective is to get public institutions to discriminate against Jews by opposing their right to self-determination - the specific fact that makes BDS Antisemitic under functioning definitions of Antisemitism.
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Postby Fahran » Wed Dec 11, 2019 10:50 am

Vassenor wrote:Dropping white phosphorous on civilian population zones is a civil right. :)

Nice try. That's not the issue here and if you studied this at all you'd know as much. But keep defending Antisemites.
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