The Cold War RP (OOC, Open)

[Dentali]

The US actually pressured France, Britain, and Israel to back off when they did attack the Sinai and Suez. IIRC Nasser also closed off lanes for Israel. I don't know if a 1940s Liberal Constitution and SocDem Egyptian government would do the same thing, especially since Nasserism and pan-Arabism isn't a thing as of yet (or maybe at all in this universe). But all the same, going in guns blazing would be ill-advisable. Egypt is currently Non-Aligned, which means it could turn to *other* powers who might be more favorable to Egypt's designs.

Would Egypt be sympathetic to the ASPG or declare war on it?

Considering they claim ALL of Africa...

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

Yea the USA is pretty strongly allied to Britain, and historically the crisis pissed EVERYONE off, and was 100% illegal under national law. You are making no friends doing this.

The US actually pressured France, Britain, and Israel to back off when they did attack the Sinai and Suez. IIRC Nasser also closed off lanes for Israel. I don't know if a 1940s Liberal Constitution and SocDem Egyptian government would do the same thing, especially since Nasserism and pan-Arabism isn't a thing as of yet (or maybe at all in this universe). But all the same, going in guns blazing would be ill-advisable. Egypt is currently Non-Aligned, which means it could turn to *other* powers who might be more favorable to Egypt's designs.

Yeah, but the thing is with significantly less NATO support in Europe (considering France, Spain and apparently a bunch of Africa have turned red), we can't afford our strongest (and one of our only) allies in Europe to get weakened; especially in an area where it's essential to American operations too

Plus, it's a threat to our Jewish buddies East of your territory

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

Would Egypt be sympathetic to the ASPG or declare war on it?

Considering they claim ALL of Africa...

Yeah, but I didn't know Egypt was independent. We could let them slide, since our main mission is to exile the West from Africa.

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

The US actually pressured France, Britain, and Israel to back off when they did attack the Sinai and Suez. IIRC Nasser also closed off lanes for Israel. I don't know if a 1940s Liberal Constitution and SocDem Egyptian government would do the same thing, especially since Nasserism and pan-Arabism isn't a thing as of yet (or maybe at all in this universe). But all the same, going in guns blazing would be ill-advisable. Egypt is currently Non-Aligned, which means it could turn to *other* powers who might be more favorable to Egypt's designs.

Would Egypt be sympathetic to the ASPG or declare war on it?

Think about it; Monarchy+Socialism=A lot of dead bourgeoisie

[Yaruqo]

The US actually pressured France, Britain, and Israel to back off when they did attack the Sinai and Suez. IIRC Nasser also closed off lanes for Israel. I don't know if a 1940s Liberal Constitution and SocDem Egyptian government would do the same thing, especially since Nasserism and pan-Arabism isn't a thing as of yet (or maybe at all in this universe). But all the same, going in guns blazing would be ill-advisable. Egypt is currently Non-Aligned, which means it could turn to *other* powers who might be more favorable to Egypt's designs.

Would Egypt be sympathetic to the ASPG or declare war on it?

Likely "no" to either. For one thing, as has been pointed out, Egypt is currently a constitutional monarchy with a mostly center-left government with some Social Democrat flavor here and there. None of the parties in Parliament at this time in this universe foster anti-monarchy sympathies. And they probably wouldn't trust the ASPG to tie their shoes, much less support Egypt in a conflict.

[Yaruqo]

The US actually pressured France, Britain, and Israel to back off when they did attack the Sinai and Suez. IIRC Nasser also closed off lanes for Israel. I don't know if a 1940s Liberal Constitution and SocDem Egyptian government would do the same thing, especially since Nasserism and pan-Arabism isn't a thing as of yet (or maybe at all in this universe). But all the same, going in guns blazing would be ill-advisable. Egypt is currently Non-Aligned, which means it could turn to *other* powers who might be more favorable to Egypt's designs.

Yeah, but the thing is with significantly less NATO support in Europe (considering France, Spain and apparently a bunch of Africa have turned red), we can't afford our strongest (and one of our only) allies in Europe to get weakened; especially in an area where it's essential to American operations too

Plus, it's a threat to our Jewish buddies East of your territory

I'm trying to research more on Egyptian political attitudes towards Israel pre-Nasser and pan-Arabism. Nasser we know was one Hell of an anti-Zionist, and while I imagine there is anti-Semitism in Egypt in the 40's, I don't believe any of those parties, short of perhaps the more radical Islamist party, would have advocated for war with Israel. Now, nationalization doesn't necessarily mean "You're all blockaded." Perhaps folks should, I don't know, reach out to Egypt about the Suez Canal ICly rather than debate it in the OOC

[Alta Californians]

what is the ASPG?

African Socialist Provisional Government. Basically De Klair and co.

we're more or less neuteral.
Although new elections will come, governments can't be formed.

[Aviz Portugal]

Country Name:The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
Head of State/Government:King Saud ibn Abdulaziz
Type of Government:Absolute monarchy
Capital:Riyadh
Map/location:

Population:3.3 million
Faction:NATO
History:The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia or the "3rd Saudi State" was founded on 1932 by Ibn Saud following the official unification of the dual kingdoms of Nejd and Heiaz, which had been wrested from the Hashemites shortly after WW1.

Originally established as the "1st Saudi state" during the 17th century, their early dominance was short-lived after their defeat at the hands of Ibrahim Pasha of Egypt, ending the state's existence.However, they were re-established on 1823 and gained a sizeable amount of territory at their height.Consequently, severe internal conflicts within the House of Saud itself led to its dissolution and absorption by their rival, the Rashids of Jabal Shammar.

In 1902, Ibn Saud, after seizing Riyadh from their rival gained a sizeable amount of support.Despite a severe defeat, his men resorted to guerilla warfare and his early progress was marked by the conquests of Najd and the eastern Arabian coast.In WW1, Ibn Saud ultimately conquered his rival, the Rashids and later the Hashemite of Hejaz who had revolted from the Ottomans on 1916.The following years would be filled with continous consolidation of power by Ibn Saud as he brings the modern state of Saudi Arabia into existence.

[Aviz Portugal]

This good Dentali?

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

African Socialist Provisional Government. Basically De Klair and co.

we're more or less neuteral.
Although new elections will come, governments can't be formed.

Well, alright, but you're within our blast radius and a socialist state. Would you give up your troops and land to support socialism in Africa?

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

we're more or less neuteral.
Although new elections will come, governments can't be formed.

Well, alright, but you're within our blast radius and a socialist state. Would you give up your troops and land to support socialism in Africa?

Are you...seriously threatening him to support you? You? An African Rebel group? Trying to threaten one of Europe's most powerful nations

[Dentali]

This good Dentali?

i more meant on the events of the past 5 years, unless its identical to irl

[Alta Californians]

we're more or less neuteral.
Although new elections will come, governments can't be formed.

Well, alright, but you're within our blast radius and a socialist state. Would you give up your troops and land to support socialism in Africa?

are you, an african rebel group, trying to fight the french republic.
One that held off the Nazi War machine until near the end of 1942?
that is a laughable concept. Attack me, and I will assure your destruction.

[Aviz Portugal]

I meant for it to be identical, nothing diff.

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

Well, alright, but you're within our blast radius and a socialist state. Would you give up your troops and land to support socialism in Africa?

are you, an african rebel group, trying to fight the french republic.
One that held off the Nazi War machine until near the end of 1942?
that is a laughable concept. Attack me, and I will assure your destruction.

Btw, I haven't denounced your government as Communist

You can't just take what's said in the OOC and apply them to the IC

[Alta Californians]

are you, an african rebel group, trying to fight the french republic.
One that held off the Nazi War machine until near the end of 1942?
that is a laughable concept. Attack me, and I will assure your destruction.

Btw, I haven't denounced your government as Communist

You can't just take what's said in the OOC and apply them to the IC

oh wait yeah

[Asardia]

Updated list of apps.

State of Israel: Greater Redosia
Portuguese Union: Arvenia
The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia: Aviz Portugal

I'm still having epic issues with Norddeutschland and the American occupation zones. France's borders remain off because of that as well. Anyway, I hope things are for the most part updated and correct. West Germany is proving ridiculously difficult, even with the actual post war map as a reference

https://i.imgur.com/pg8uM7u.png

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

Btw, I haven't denounced your government as Communist

You can't just take what's said in the OOC and apply them to the IC

oh wait yeah

So...could you remove that from your post?

[Hypron]

What did i miss?

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

What did i miss?

Egypt is rebelling and trying to take control of the Suez Canal away from you

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

Well, alright, but you're within our blast radius and a socialist state. Would you give up your troops and land to support socialism in Africa?

are you, an african rebel group, trying to fight the french republic.
One that held off the Nazi War machine until near the end of 1942?
that is a laughable concept. Attack me, and I will assure your destruction.

I'm not threatening you. I'm merely asking you whether you support our cause and therefore give up all possessions in Africa.

[Yaruqo]

What did i miss?

Egypt is rebelling and trying to take control of the Suez Canal away from you

Technically we've been independent since 1922 so, I mean, we're not really rebelling...

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

Also, why is France having a new election every few weeks/months at this point?

This is just like the Australia PM elections

[Hypron]

What did i miss?

Egypt is rebelling and trying to take control of the Suez Canal away from you

I don't mind the Suez Canal, but i care about Alexandria. That is my only naval base in the Eastern Med.

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

Well, alright, but you're within our blast radius and a socialist state. Would you give up your troops and land to support socialism in Africa?

are you, an african rebel group, trying to fight the french republic.
One that held off the Nazi War machine until near the end of 1942?
that is a laughable concept. Attack me, and I will assure your destruction.

France fell in 1940
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_France
I'm starting to feel that you don't know much about history