The Cold War RP (OOC, Open)

[Dentali]

Not at all, im not turning you away. I just want to have a general idea for your plans

Oh goodie. Well let me just list these off the top of my head.

1. The Establishment of a free and stable State of Israel for the Jewish people to call their own. After such a long history of expulsion, inquisition and enslavement, we are looking to control our own destiny away from others. Thus why we are currently in conflict with the Arabs, at least those nations who I know are going against my nation. I dunno about Saudi Arabia and Egypt since they are player controlled.

2. Go on the hunt for Nazi officials who supported the Third Reich and went into hiding, through the use of Mossad and independent nazi hunter individuals and organizations to bring them to justice for their crimes.

3. Be a beacon of democracy and westernization in the middle east to the other nations around us, although of course Israel is not Arab hopefully through my efforts I can encourage some form of secularization rising up and possibly greater cooperation between all nations for peace.

4. Extreme diplomatic initiatives with almost all nations to recognize our independence and to get peace with the Arab forces, looking to ensure that we will be protected and supported in our efforts in the international stage.

5. Ensure that terrorism doesn't spread both domestically and internationally, of which I am currently reading a book about it written by Benjamin Netanyahu called Fighting Terrorism so I understand how to combat it at least a little bit. But in the end, for the betterment of the people of the Middle East and most importantly for the people of the State of Israel.

Alright this is all good stuff, youre able to apply as Israel and i shall review your app

[Dentali]

Shame, US is trying to go against NATO, I'll have to turn to the UK for investment

I'm sorry: who are you?

Also, I AM NATO!

yea that was an odd comment

[Aviz Portugal]

Got it wrong since Yaruqo is egypt but Im potentially Saudis once OP accepts my app

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

Right; Britain? Israel? Willing to come over and KICK SOME EGYPTIAN BACKSIDE?

[Dentali]

Country Name: State of Israel
Head of State/Government: Prime Minister David Ben-Gurion, President Chaim Weizmann
Type of Government: Unitary Parliamentary Republic
Capital: Jerusalem
Map/location (an actual map or description is fine here) ...Israel, I'm sure you know where it is.
Population: 1,796,000
Faction: Neutral, leaning NATO
History: Starting since the Jewish expulsion from several nations in Europe during the 16th century, the idea of returning to the lands of Zion had always been on the minds of the Jewish people. What first brought forth the idea of Zionism and the return of a Jewish state was the First Aliyah, where immigration of Jewish peoples first began to take form. Following the creation of the First Zionist Congress in 1887, the organization of the Jewish people and the expansion of the Zionist doctrine brought together the Israelite people once more. Which following the Second Aliyah which brought more Jewish people to the lands of Zion, it was thought it could be done. A mixture of Orthodox Jews and Socialists, although a good portion left eventually, a majority stayed to claim the land their home. Which during the first world war, was a true sight which was promised by the British with their Balfour Declaration, they were promised a land they would own themselves and so supported the British in their efforts.

With the Jewish Legion supporting the British take over of Palestine, leading to the Arab Revolts against the British rule and the formation of Jewish Militias to defend the Jewish people in Palestine. Following this, was the Third and Fourth Aliyahs, that brought even more Jews to the lands of the Palestine Mandate, which following the rise of Nazism and Hitler's Third Reich, mass emigration of the Jews to escape their prosecution led them to the lands of Palestine. Following successful political maneuvering and efforts, brought all quarters million of the Jews back to the holy land. Following the Arab Revolt which resulted in 10% of the adult male population of Arab Muslims being killed, wounded imprisoned or exiled, bringing the Jewish even closer to the majority they so desire to see. Which it was then followed by greater political maneuvering to prevent the British from restricting Jewish immigration to the territory, allowing more Jews to reach the holy land from the expanding reaches of the Third Reich. After several years and the resulting holocaust of the Jewish people, once the war was over, the mass exodus of Jewish Holocaust survivors to the Mandate of Palestine began and the expansion of the World Zionist Organization under David Ben-Gurion brought forth more to the lands. This causing discontentment and eventually fury from the Arab Muslims along with Jewish militias looking for independence from the British encouraging the evacuation of the territory.

Following an attempt by the United Nations at partition, the Arab League rejected it and the beginning of the civil war began and the evacuation of British forces was successful. Leaving the Jewish people partially defenseless at the rise of the conflict, but manage to hold out and push back through the use of their militias. Leading to the War of Independence for Israel as they declared independence and went to war with the Arabs. Which Israel found itself fighting on almost all sides, but found itself on the offensive and the ability to get some breathing room against the several different Arab forces and volunteers. Thus began the complete control over the Jewish territory and the complete exodus and expulsion of Palestinian Arabs from the lands controlled by Israel and the return of Jews from their expulsion from Muslim Arab nations. Thus exchanging populations and leading to a majority Jewish Israel. With the formation of the Israel Defense Forces from several paramilitary militias, Israel hopes to find its place from the ongoing conflict and that it may rise to success despite the will of outside forces against it.

APP Accepted

[Greater Redosia]

Right; Britain? Israel? Willing to come over and KICK SOME EGYPTIAN BACKSIDE?

I mean, depends on what Egypt did during the Arab War. If they moved into Gaza like IRL sure, I can try something. But if not well then. shrug I don't see any reason to.

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

I'm sorry: who are you?

Also, I AM NATO!

yea that was an odd comment

It's sort of true though

I am practically 50% of NATO's military strength RN.....which is actually sort of the same today

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

Right; Britain? Israel? Willing to come over and KICK SOME EGYPTIAN BACKSIDE?

I mean, depends on what Egypt did during the Arab War. If they moved into Gaza like IRL sure, I can try something. But if not well then. shrug I don't see any reason to.

Damn it, what's the point of you if you won't beat up the Arabs and therefore allow us justification to install a military presence in the area...

[Dentali]

yea that was an odd comment

It's sort of true though

I am practically 50% of NATO's military strength RN.....which is actually sort of the same today

not the I AM NATO comment

the dude you were responding to, i dont know how you were going against NATO

[Greater Redosia]

I mean, depends on what Egypt did during the Arab War. If they moved into Gaza like IRL sure, I can try something. But if not well then. shrug I don't see any reason to.

Damn it, what's the point of you if you won't beat up the Arabs and therefore allow us justification to install a military presence in the area...

I'm already fighting Arabs, unless I can try and get a peace early, I think things should be fine for the great people of Israel.

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

It's sort of true though

I am practically 50% of NATO's military strength RN.....which is actually sort of the same today

not the I AM NATO comment

the dude you were responding to, i dont know how you were going against NATO

Oh, yeah, I have no clue either

I mean, me? Going against me?

I mean, if I did that I would've been like:

[Greater Redosia]

Wait, I'm an idiot. It's semptember and the war ended in March. I'm not even at war with anyone, frick erm. I think since Egypt didn't invade me I'm guessing, I should have better territorial positions for the 1949 armistice.

[The Imperial Warglorian Empire]

Damn it, what's the point of you if you won't beat up the Arabs and therefore allow us justification to install a military presence in the area...

I'm already fighting Arabs, unless I can try and get a peace early, I think things should be fine for the great people of Israel.

You know, curious thought on that, do you think any Mossad Agents ever (at the very least) considered going after the German scientists recruited in Operation Paperclip? A few of them were in some ways related to war crimes

[Arvenia]

Country Name: Portuguese Union (União Portuguesa)
Head of State/Government: Supreme Leader Óscar Craveiro
Type of Government: Pluricontinentalist Autocracy
Capital: Lissabon
Map/location: Portugal and its overseas territories
Population: 17,103,404
Faction: None at this moment
History: Portugal's history diverges from OTL in 1933, in which a different government steps in instead of the Estado Novo. This plurocontinentalist government is led by a charismatic leader named "Óscar Craveiro", who proclaims himself the "Supreme Leader of Portugal and its Overseas Provinces" (Líder Supremo de Portugal e suas Províncias Ultramarinas). The country is formally renamed to the Portuguese Union and would function as a federal state, allowing overseas provinces some representation in the mainland. The country was neutral during WW2, but did help nationalist rebels during the Spanish Civil War (despite eventual republican victory). Now that WW2 is over, Portugal seeks to make itself an influental power among European countries.

If you find this app to be not qualified enough, I can elaborate further by October.

[Greater Redosia]

I'm already fighting Arabs, unless I can try and get a peace early, I think things should be fine for the great people of Israel.

You know, curious thought on that, do you think any Mossad Agents ever (at the very least) considered going after the German scientists recruited in Operation Paperclip? A few of them were in some ways related to war crimes

I think for those, it was mostly negotiations from the Israeli Government to have them stand trial. Mossad most likely would focus more on those hiding away in South America and such, since I would rather not anger the only allies I most likely would have.

[Dentali]

Country Name: Portuguese Union (União Portuguesa)
Head of State/Government: Supreme Leader Óscar Craveiro
Type of Government: Pluricontinentalist Autocracy
Capital: Lissabon
Map/location: Portugal and it's overseas territories
Population: 17,103,404
Faction: None at this moment
History: Portugal's history diverges from OTL in 1933, in which a different government steps in instead of the Estado Novo. This plurocontinentalist government is led by a charismatic leader named "Óscar Craveiro", who proclaims himself the "Supreme Leader of Portugal and it's Overseas Provinces" (Líder Supremo de Portugal e suas Províncias Ultramarinas). The country is formally renamed to the Portuguese Union and would function as a federal state, allowing overseas provinces some representation in the mainland. The country was neutral during WW2, but did help nationalists in the Spanish Civil War (despite eventual republican victory). Now that WW2 is over, Portugal seeks to make itself an influental power among European countries.

If you find this app to be not qualified enough, I can elaborate further by October.

Its a great start and I am quite interested in federalized colonial powers... its a fairly low bar to enter the RP but I would like a bit more elaboration.

[Dentali]

Country Name:The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
Head of State/Government:King Saud ibn Abdulaziz
Type of Government:Absolute monarchy
Capital:Riyadh
Map/location:
(Image)
Population:3.3 million
Faction:NATO
History:The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia or the "3rd Saudi State" was founded on 1932 by Ibn Saud following the official unification of the dual kingdoms of Nejd and Heiaz, which had been wrested from the Hashemites shortly after WW1.

im going to need a bit more in the history

[Agarntrop]

Country Name: Portuguese Union (União Portuguesa)
Head of State/Government: Supreme Leader Óscar Craveiro
Type of Government: Pluricontinentalist Autocracy
Capital: Lissabon
Map/location: Portugal and it's overseas territories
Population: 17,103,404
Faction: None at this moment
History: Portugal's history diverges from OTL in 1933, in which a different government steps in instead of the Estado Novo. This plurocontinentalist government is led by a charismatic leader named "Óscar Craveiro", who proclaims himself the "Supreme Leader of Portugal and it's Overseas Provinces" (Líder Supremo de Portugal e suas Províncias Ultramarinas). The country is formally renamed to the Portuguese Union and would function as a federal state, allowing overseas provinces some representation in the mainland. The country was neutral during WW2, but did help nationalists in the Spanish Civil War (despite eventual republican victory). Now that WW2 is over, Portugal seeks to make itself an influental power among European countries.

If you find this app to be not qualified enough, I can elaborate further by October.

totally didnt steal this from dentali

[Dentali]

Country Name: Portuguese Union (União Portuguesa)
Head of State/Government: Supreme Leader Óscar Craveiro
Type of Government: Pluricontinentalist Autocracy
Capital: Lissabon
Map/location: Portugal and it's overseas territories
Population: 17,103,404
Faction: None at this moment
History: Portugal's history diverges from OTL in 1933, in which a different government steps in instead of the Estado Novo. This plurocontinentalist government is led by a charismatic leader named "Óscar Craveiro", who proclaims himself the "Supreme Leader of Portugal and it's Overseas Provinces" (Líder Supremo de Portugal e suas Províncias Ultramarinas). The country is formally renamed to the Portuguese Union and would function as a federal state, allowing overseas provinces some representation in the mainland. The country was neutral during WW2, but did help nationalists in the Spanish Civil War (despite eventual republican victory). Now that WW2 is over, Portugal seeks to make itself an influental power among European countries.

If you find this app to be not qualified enough, I can elaborate further by October.

totally didnt steal this from dentali

youll have to post it A LOT for this rp

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

If Africa gets Soviet aid, it'll be a game-changer. We probably lost French aid, sadly, so...

I also have a question for the French player: Did the socialist government give their possessions to the ASPG or did they declare war on it?

[Yaruqo]

A shame, Egypt's liberal government would have enjoyed having the United States as an ally over the British. But c'est la vie...

Yea the USA is pretty strongly allied to Britain, and historically the crisis pissed EVERYONE off, and was 100% illegal under national law. You are making no friends doing this.

The US actually pressured France, Britain, and Israel to back off when they did attack the Sinai and Suez. IIRC Nasser also closed off lanes for Israel. I don't know if a 1940s Liberal Constitution and SocDem Egyptian government would do the same thing, especially since Nasserism and pan-Arabism isn't a thing as of yet (or maybe at all in this universe). But all the same, going in guns blazing would be ill-advisable. Egypt is currently Non-Aligned, which means it could turn to *other* powers who might be more favorable to Egypt's designs.

[Alta Californians]

If Africa gets Soviet aid, it'll be a game-changer. We probably lost French aid, sadly, so...

I also have a question for the French player: Did the socialist government give their possessions to the ASPG or did they declare war on it?

what is the ASPG?

[Dentali]

Yea the USA is pretty strongly allied to Britain, and historically the crisis pissed EVERYONE off, and was 100% illegal under national law. You are making no friends doing this.

The US actually pressured France, Britain, and Israel to back off when they did attack the Sinai and Suez. IIRC Nasser also closed off lanes for Israel. I don't know if a 1940s Liberal Constitution and SocDem Egyptian government would do the same thing, especially since Nasserism and pan-Arabism isn't a thing as of yet (or maybe at all in this universe). But all the same, going in guns blazing would be ill-advisable. Egypt is currently Non-Aligned, which means it could turn to *other* powers who might be more favorable to Egypt's designs.

Youre attempting to bully the strongest nations in the world. And yea the US made them back off AFTER they attacked, the only reason Nasser survived, the Soviets didnt give a shit or have the ability to assist.

You could probably purchase the canal easily, if you give guarantees. Legally Egypt doesn't own the canal, if they nationalize it that means forcibly seizing it from a foreign power

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

If Africa gets Soviet aid, it'll be a game-changer. We probably lost French aid, sadly, so...

I also have a question for the French player: Did the socialist government give their possessions to the ASPG or did they declare war on it?

what is the ASPG?

African Socialist Provisional Government. Basically De Klair and co.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

Yea the USA is pretty strongly allied to Britain, and historically the crisis pissed EVERYONE off, and was 100% illegal under national law. You are making no friends doing this.

The US actually pressured France, Britain, and Israel to back off when they did attack the Sinai and Suez. IIRC Nasser also closed off lanes for Israel. I don't know if a 1940s Liberal Constitution and SocDem Egyptian government would do the same thing, especially since Nasserism and pan-Arabism isn't a thing as of yet (or maybe at all in this universe). But all the same, going in guns blazing would be ill-advisable. Egypt is currently Non-Aligned, which means it could turn to *other* powers who might be more favorable to Egypt's designs.

Would Egypt be sympathetic to the ASPG or declare war on it?