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Postby The Free Joy State » Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:58 pm

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The Free Joy State wrote:Or, if you want to say that things could always be worse: Notsobadness

Or, for emphasis: Doubleplusnotsobadness


"Oh dear, these are some ungood words! We can't let the public use them!"

"What is this duckspeak, Comrade?" :p

Notsobadness sounds like something I might use everyday.

"Hmph, not bad!"

It does kind of roll off the tongue.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:59 pm

What an unintentionally HILARIOUS movie.

The single mom who last the baby daughter in a fire goes "stalker mode" on another family because "she's really my daughter" and everyone thinks the mom is nuts and the movie leads you to think this.

She sneaks in to try and collect a sample of the girl to get a DNA sample. She gets attacked by the other mom and they fight. But then the other mom breaks down and "confesses" that she did steal the baby daughter.

The Australian husband hears this and he shakes his head in disbelief and walks away from his own wife... He's like... "Okay dude it looks like we're just going to have to give the baby daughter up. She was never ours."

He just very calmly takes this and is then shown handing over the daughter over at the end.

What a hilarious character, and he spoke with a thick Australian accent for the whole film...

...

Is it common in American movies for "Australians"/characters with Australian accents to be shown as Principled Men of Honour?
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Postby Heloin » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:03 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
What an unintentionally HILARIOUS movie.

The single mom who last the baby daughter in a fire goes "stalker mode" on another family because "she's really my daughter" and everyone thinks the mom is nuts and the movie leads you to think this.

She sneaks in to try and collect a sample of the girl to get a DNA sample. She gets attacked by the other mom and they fight. But then the other mom breaks down and "confesses" that she did steal the baby daughter.

The Australian husband hears this and he shakes his head in disbelief and walks away from his own wife... He's like... "Okay dude it looks like we're just going to have to give the baby daughter up. She was never ours."

He just very calmly takes this and is then shown handing over the daughter over at the end.

What a hilarious character, and he spoke with a thick Australian accent for the whole film...

...

Is it common in American movies for "Australians"/characters with Australian accents to be shown as Principled Men of Honour?

Funny? No idea what this film is but it seems this is just getting back to your Australian accent thread and that you just think Australians sound funny isn't it?

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Postby The Free Joy State » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:06 pm

Heloin wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
What an unintentionally HILARIOUS movie.

The single mom who last the baby daughter in a fire goes "stalker mode" on another family because "she's really my daughter" and everyone thinks the mom is nuts and the movie leads you to think this.

She sneaks in to try and collect a sample of the girl to get a DNA sample. She gets attacked by the other mom and they fight. But then the other mom breaks down and "confesses" that she did steal the baby daughter.

The Australian husband hears this and he shakes his head in disbelief and walks away from his own wife... He's like... "Okay dude it looks like we're just going to have to give the baby daughter up. She was never ours."

He just very calmly takes this and is then shown handing over the daughter over at the end.

What a hilarious character, and he spoke with a thick Australian accent for the whole film...

...

Is it common in American movies for "Australians"/characters with Australian accents to be shown as Principled Men of Honour?

Funny? No idea what this film is but it seems this is just getting back to your Australian accent thread and that you just think Australians sound funny isn't it?

So, to summarise... unknown drama about a poor woman having her baby stolen apparently rendered "hilarious" by the presence of Australian accents?

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:08 pm

Heloin wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
What an unintentionally HILARIOUS movie.

The single mom who last the baby daughter in a fire goes "stalker mode" on another family because "she's really my daughter" and everyone thinks the mom is nuts and the movie leads you to think this.

She sneaks in to try and collect a sample of the girl to get a DNA sample. She gets attacked by the other mom and they fight. But then the other mom breaks down and "confesses" that she did steal the baby daughter.

The Australian husband hears this and he shakes his head in disbelief and walks away from his own wife... He's like... "Okay dude it looks like we're just going to have to give the baby daughter up. She was never ours."

He just very calmly takes this and is then shown handing over the daughter over at the end.

What a hilarious character, and he spoke with a thick Australian accent for the whole film...

...

Is it common in American movies for "Australians"/characters with Australian accents to be shown as Principled Men of Honour?

Funny? No idea what this film is but it seems this is just getting back to your Australian accent thread and that you just think Australians sound funny isn't it?


I love this trope of Australians in American movies apparently being very principled, liberal-minded, people of honour

I mean this character's been raising this girl for 7 years then his wife gets into a fight with another woman and confesses that the girl WAS stolen.

Then he just goes... "Okay it looks like we fucked up. Let's hand her back." (shakes his head in disbelief at his wife)

just hands the daughter over, no fuss no mess, clean

I LOVE IT

I mean how did they come up with this script, and he speaks 100% Australian in the whole movie too..
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Postby The Free Joy State » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:10 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Heloin wrote:Funny? No idea what this film is but it seems this is just getting back to your Australian accent thread and that you just think Australians sound funny isn't it?


I love this trope of Australians in American movies apparently being very principled, liberal-minded, people of honour

I mean this character's been raising this girl for 7 years then his wife gets into a fight with another woman and confesses that the girl WAS stolen.

Then he just goes... "Okay it looks like we fucked up. Let's hand her back." (shakes his head in disbelief at his wife)

just hands the daughter over, no fuss no mess, clean

I LOVE IT

I mean how did they come up with this script, and he speaks 100% Australian in the whole movie too..

Well, he would speak in an Australian accent in an Australian film, wouldn't he?

We can't comment on the script, having not seen it.

But finding a movie featuring a woman having her baby stolen funny is a thought that might be better left in your head. Perhaps...

BTW: That trope you like is very much challenged in films like Muriel's Wedding and The Dressmaker -- both of which are fucking fantastic!
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Postby Heloin » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:11 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Heloin wrote:Funny? No idea what this film is but it seems this is just getting back to your Australian accent thread and that you just think Australians sound funny isn't it?


I love this trope of Australians in American movies apparently being very principled, liberal-minded, people of honour

I mean this character's been raising this girl for 7 years then his wife gets into a fight with another woman and confesses that the girl WAS stolen.

Then he just goes... "Okay it looks like we fucked up. Let's hand her back." (shakes his head in disbelief at his wife)

just hands the daughter over, no fuss no mess, clean

I LOVE IT

As opposed to keeping someone else's child they stole from them?

I mean how did they come up with this script, and he speaks 100% Australian in the whole movie too..

He's Australian?
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Postby Pacomia » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:31 pm

Monarchy is the worst form of government.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:38 pm

Heloin wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
I love this trope of Australians in American movies apparently being very principled, liberal-minded, people of honour

I mean this character's been raising this girl for 7 years then his wife gets into a fight with another woman and confesses that the girl WAS stolen.

Then he just goes... "Okay it looks like we fucked up. Let's hand her back." (shakes his head in disbelief at his wife)

just hands the daughter over, no fuss no mess, clean

I LOVE IT

As opposed to keeping someone else's child they stole from them?

I mean how did they come up with this script, and he speaks 100% Australian in the whole movie too..

He's Australian?


but I like how there's just no transition; he instantaneously updates because he's so driven by principles of honour

Raises kid for 7 years.

"Oh S%$^ she was stolen."

Understands. Turns the girl over, smiles at the new parents.

He took it very very well.
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Postby Heloin » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:42 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Heloin wrote:As opposed to keeping someone else's child they stole from them?


He's Australian?


but I like how there's just no transition; he instantaneously updates because he's so driven by principles of honour

Raises kid for 7 years.

"Oh S%$^ she was stolen."

Understands. Turns the girl over, smiles at the new parents.

He took it very very well.

Him doing the right thing while having being Australian in a movie you've still not said the title of is funny?

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Postby Nakena » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:45 pm

Pacomia wrote:Monarchy is the worst form of government.


Elaborate.

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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:45 pm

Heloin wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
but I like how there's just no transition; he instantaneously updates because he's so driven by principles of honour

Raises kid for 7 years.

"Oh S%$^ she was stolen."

Understands. Turns the girl over, smiles at the new parents.

He took it very very well.

Him doing the right thing while having being Australian in a movie you've still not said the title of is funny?


he's not even a main character

it just seems strange though...

like they shoehorned this "Australian character" into this plot that's really about 2 women fighting over 1 little girl... his only role in this whole plot is to be the understanding man it's really amusing...

and why did he NEED to be Australian
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Postby The Free Joy State » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:46 pm

Pacomia wrote:Monarchy is the worst form of government.

Not especially a monarchist -- my country has a constitutional monarchy (and the monarch's powers are very limited; other monarchies are purely ceremonial); an elected upper house would also work for me -- but at least Boris Johnson can't call himself "President", so there's that.

But, sorry, if we're playing this game: Autocracy is the worse form of government (whether the leader calls themselves "Monarch", "President for Life", "Dear Leader" or any other title). Anyone with full and final rights to do whatever they like, without checks and balances, has too much power.

But that's a debate for another day. Many other days, if I know NSG...
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Postby Heloin » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:47 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Heloin wrote:Him doing the right thing while having being Australian in a movie you've still not said the title of is funny?


he's not even a main character

it just seems strange though...

like they shoehorned this "Australian character" into this plot that's really about 2 women fighting over 1 little girl... his only role in this whole plot is to be the understanding man it's really amusing...

and why did he NEED to be Australian

You know, people talk in accents, because that's how they talk right? Him being Australian seems totally irrelevant aside from you finding the accent funny, for some reason.

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Postby Valentine Z » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:48 pm

The Free Joy State wrote:But, sorry, if we're playing this game: Autocracy is the worse form of government (whether the leader calls themselves "Monarch", "President for Life", "Dear Leader" or any other title).

I know we are talking about RL countries, but... *Whistles innocently with his Valentians that are immortal and will rule for eternities*.
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Postby Pacomia » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:49 pm

Nakena wrote:
Pacomia wrote:Monarchy is the worst form of government.


Elaborate.

Monarchies, especially absolute monarchies, are stupid and inefficient forms of government that chooses its leader not based on merit, but instead on arbitrary heritage, and then gives that leader obscene amounts of power. The royalty is also often sheltered and completely out of touch with the general populace. Hell, they’re even occasionally inbred. In the case of constitutional monarchies, what’s the point of there still being a monarchy?

What are the upsides of monarchy?

EDIT: In response to Joy, I actually think an absolute monarchy is worse than a dictator just TAKING power, because at least they need some skill or following to take power. Monarchs, however, do not.

This conversation should probably go in another thread.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:50 pm

Heloin wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:
he's not even a main character

it just seems strange though...

like they shoehorned this "Australian character" into this plot that's really about 2 women fighting over 1 little girl... his only role in this whole plot is to be the understanding man it's really amusing...

and why did he NEED to be Australian

You know, people talk in accents, because that's how they talk right? Him being Australian seems totally irrelevant aside from you finding the accent funny, for some reason.


but its set in America lol

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Postby Valentine Z » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:50 pm

Pacomia wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Elaborate.

Monarchies, especially absolute monarchies, are stupid and inefficient forms of government that chooses its leader not based on merit, but instead on arbitrary heritage, and then gives that leader obscene amounts of power. The royalty is also often sheltered and completely out of touch with the general populace. Hell, they’re even occasionally inbred. In the case of constitutional monarchies, what’s the point of there still being a monarchy?

What are the upsides of monarchy?

You get to be the King... even if people didn't vote for you.

And you can repress your subjects. :P
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Postby Heloin » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:51 pm

Pacomia wrote:What are the upsides of monarchy?

Royal Weddings, having fancy names for military unites, someone to send a telegram to people who reached 100 years old.

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Postby Heloin » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:52 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Heloin wrote:You know, people talk in accents, because that's how they talk right? Him being Australian seems totally irrelevant aside from you finding the accent funny, for some reason.


but its set in America lol

I don't speak with an American accent just cause I live in America.

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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:52 pm

Nakena wrote:
Pacomia wrote:Monarchy is the worst form of government.


Elaborate.


True. Monarchy is the worst and most elaborate form of government.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:52 pm

Heloin wrote:
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but its set in America lol

I don't speak with an American accent just cause I live in America.


Ok

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Postby The Free Joy State » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:53 pm

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Heloin wrote:You know, people talk in accents, because that's how they talk right? Him being Australian seems totally irrelevant aside from you finding the accent funny, for some reason.


but its set in America lol

People move countries and don't lose their accent.

Hold the front page! :roll:

A drama about a stolen child should not become amusing because someone has an accent. And, if it does, I would again suggest that is the kind of thing one should keep to oneself.
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Postby Nakena » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:55 pm

Pacomia wrote:Monarchies, especially absolute monarchies, are stupid and inefficient forms of government that chooses its leader not based on merit, but instead on arbitrary heritage, and then gives that leader obscene amounts of power. The royalty is also often sheltered and completely out of touch with the general populace. Hell, they’re even occasionally inbred. In the case of constitutional monarchies, what’s the point of there still being a monarchy?

What are the upsides of monarchy?


Absolute Monarchies have their problems. Most countries with constitional ones are doing well. And then theres the often underrated elective ones.

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Nakena wrote:
Elaborate.


True. Monarchy is the worst and most elaborate form of government.


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Postby The Free Joy State » Sat Sep 07, 2019 11:59 pm

Pacomia wrote:
Nakena wrote:
Elaborate.

Monarchies, especially absolute monarchies, are stupid and inefficient forms of government that chooses its leader not based on merit, but instead on arbitrary heritage, and then gives that leader obscene amounts of power. The royalty is also often sheltered and completely out of touch with the general populace. Hell, they’re even occasionally inbred. In the case of constitutional monarchies, what’s the point of there still being a monarchy?

What are the upsides of monarchy?

EDIT: In response to Joy, I actually think an absolute monarchy is worse than a dictator just TAKING power, because at least they need some skill or following to take power. Monarchs, however, do not.

This conversation should probably go in another thread.

Absolute monarchies and dictators are both equally bad, I'd say. Any system that gives one person absolute power is equally bad.

But a constitutional monarchy, within an elected democracy is not. Constitutional monarchs have limited powers (some are basically highly paid ribbon-cutters, there purely for ceremonial events and with no actual powers at all). Dictators' powers are not similarly limited and the harm they can do is accordingly much higher.

I'm not a big fan of the monarchy. I'm even less of a fan of dictatorship.

God... that I find myself defending the monarchy. What has TET brought me to?
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