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by Bananaistan » Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:09 am
by Antityranicals » Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:15 am
by Imperium Anglorum » Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:27 am
by Bananaistan » Wed Aug 28, 2019 6:46 am
Imperium Anglorum wrote:@Banana
1. That's doesn't even support the claim, as I've not threatened to vote against on format
2. Heightened scrutiny of proposals that don't meet format expectations is expected, most everyone in the GA does it (see this thread and that for DVR if you want the proof)
3. I still disavow my statements from three years ago
So the existence of the real life legislation is an argument, thought poorly made on mobile, as to the importance of the topic, which is a response to 'this is pointless'. It's not a claim as to 'copy all the UN resolutions'. If you meant something different with NS isn't RL, could you elaborate?
by Marxist Germany » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:44 am
by Imperium Anglorum » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:58 am
by Tinhampton » Wed Aug 28, 2019 9:03 am
by Kenmoria » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:24 am
by Imperium Anglorum » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:07 pm
by Araraukar » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:21 pm
Bears Armed wrote:OOC
If this proposal is not supposed to cover actually expressing the thoughts, rather than just holding or believing them, then the lack [that has already been pointed out] of any reliable way for most member nations' governments to tell what people really think or believe means that this would have little or no actual effects: 'Mild', at the most.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Munkcestrian Republic » Wed Aug 28, 2019 12:26 pm
by Kenmoria » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:14 pm
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:I'm still against, people (including leaders) should be free to do what they want.
by Maowi » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:14 pm
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:I'm still against, people (including leaders) should be free to do what they want.
by Jocospor » Wed Aug 28, 2019 1:46 pm
by Munkcestrian Republic » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:11 pm
Kenmoria wrote:Munkcestrian Republic wrote:I'm still against, people (including leaders) should be free to do what they want.
(OOC: That’s what the proposal says; it bans member nations from restricting people’s freedom of thought. That is, unless you are saying that leaders should be free to restrict thinking, in which case you are simply rehashing traditional NatSov arguments.)
by Marxist Germany » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:11 pm
Jocospor wrote:Anyone else who tried this would be shot down.
by Araraukar » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:23 pm
Jocospor wrote:Anyone else who tried this would be shot down.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Kenmoria » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:32 pm
Jocospor wrote:Anyone else who tried this would be shot down.
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:Kenmoria wrote:(OOC: That’s what the proposal says; it bans member nations from restricting people’s freedom of thought. That is, unless you are saying that leaders should be free to restrict thinking, in which case you are simply rehashing traditional NatSov arguments.)
Leaders lead their nation, and so what they want to do comes before what other people in that nation want to do.
by Araraukar » Wed Aug 28, 2019 7:06 pm
Kenmoria wrote:The World Assembly leads all member states, so what it wants to be do comes above what leaders want to do.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Refuge Isle » Wed Aug 28, 2019 11:35 pm
Marxist Germany wrote:OOC:Not again! IA you're going to lose respect of many people with this mockery of the GA. Shall this be submitted I'll run a counter campaign.
by Kenmoria » Thu Aug 29, 2019 12:37 am
Araraukar wrote:Kenmoria wrote:The World Assembly leads all member states, so what it wants to be do comes above what leaders want to do.
OOC: Controls, rather than leads, but yes, WA law goes above national law.
As for a basic right and such, that's not the point. The point is that this proposal is about as sensible as making a proposal that says WA nations are banned from banning breathing. Or dying. Or anything else that you realistically couldn't do anyway. It's an unnecessary law.
by The New Nordic Union » Thu Aug 29, 2019 4:23 am
Kenmoria wrote:Araraukar wrote:OOC: Controls, rather than leads, but yes, WA law goes above national law.
As for a basic right and such, that's not the point. The point is that this proposal is about as sensible as making a proposal that says WA nations are banned from banning breathing. Or dying. Or anything else that you realistically couldn't do anyway. It's an unnecessary law.
(OOC: The technology is already in development, and there is always the question of FT or PMT member states operating with different tech levels.)
by Wallenburg » Thu Aug 29, 2019 12:27 pm
by Araraukar » Thu Aug 29, 2019 1:48 pm
Kenmoria wrote:(OOC: The technology is already in development, and there is always the question of FT or PMT member states operating with different tech levels.)
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
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