True, but that's not exactly relevant.
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by Telconi » Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:43 am
by Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:48 am
by Telconi » Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:51 am
by Loben The 2nd » Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:51 am
by San Lumen » Thu Aug 22, 2019 8:57 am
Telconi wrote:Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Oh fuck off, Hitler committed the largest genocide in history, so if you don’t know how this is relevant then you might as well not contribute at all.
It isn't relevant, despite Lumen's Stretch Armstrong routine desperately trying to make it so.
by Telconi » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:03 am
by Galloism » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:06 am
Gravlen wrote:Dresderstan wrote:Because politicians can't have a sense of humor like everyone else.
The idea of buying Greenland was a joke until it wasn't, and became an international incident.
Trump, as an individual, does not have a sense of humor. But then again, he has no empathy, and that makes humor difficult.
Presidents can have humor, but they also have to be aware of the position they hold. Usually, they take care not to damage the standing and credibility of the presidency. Trump has no such limitations, and that has led to both the position and the US not being taken seriously anymore.
by North German Realm » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:07 am
Galloism wrote:Gravlen wrote:The idea of buying Greenland was a joke until it wasn't, and became an international incident.
Trump, as an individual, does not have a sense of humor. But then again, he has no empathy, and that makes humor difficult.
Presidents can have humor, but they also have to be aware of the position they hold. Usually, they take care not to damage the standing and credibility of the presidency. Trump has no such limitations, and that has led to both the position and the US not being taken seriously anymore.
Ironically perhaps, this isn't the first time we've tried to buy Greenland.
5 Nov, 2020
Die Morgenpost: "We will reconsider our relationship with Poland" Reichskanzler Lagenmauer says after Polish president protested North German ultimatum that made them restore reproductive freedom. | European Society votes not to persecute Hungary for atrocities committed against Serbs, "Giving a rogue state leave to commit genocide as it sees fit." North German delegate bemoans. | Negotiations still underway in Rome, delegates arguing over the extent of indemnities Turkey might be made to pay, lawful status of Turkish collaborators during occupation of Azerbaijan, Cyprus, Syria.
by Galloism » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:07 am
by North German Realm » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:10 am
San Lumen wrote:Telconi wrote:
Really, Hitler said that Jews who vote for Democrats are disloyal to Israel? Amazing, especially given that at no point in Hitler's life was there an Israel...
No he did not say however what Trump said is very similar to what Hitler said which was Jews are not loyal to the state.
5 Nov, 2020
Die Morgenpost: "We will reconsider our relationship with Poland" Reichskanzler Lagenmauer says after Polish president protested North German ultimatum that made them restore reproductive freedom. | European Society votes not to persecute Hungary for atrocities committed against Serbs, "Giving a rogue state leave to commit genocide as it sees fit." North German delegate bemoans. | Negotiations still underway in Rome, delegates arguing over the extent of indemnities Turkey might be made to pay, lawful status of Turkish collaborators during occupation of Azerbaijan, Cyprus, Syria.
by Ifreann » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:11 am
San Lumen wrote:Telconi wrote:
Really, Hitler said that Jews who vote for Democrats are disloyal to Israel? Amazing, especially given that at no point in Hitler's life was there an Israel...
No he did not say however what Trump said is very similar to what Hitler said which was Jews are not loyal to the state.
by Telconi » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:13 am
San Lumen wrote:Telconi wrote:
Really, Hitler said that Jews who vote for Democrats are disloyal to Israel? Amazing, especially given that at no point in Hitler's life was there an Israel...
No he did not say however what Trump said is very similar to what Hitler said which was Jews are not loyal to the state.
by San Lumen » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:16 am
Telconi wrote:San Lumen wrote:
No he did not say however what Trump said is very similar to what Hitler said which was Jews are not loyal to the state.
Oh, so when you said it was literally the same you were lying? Or alternatively, the correct usage of the word "literally" isn't part of your working vocabulary.
Also, it isn't the same at all, or even similar. Because of the all important qualifier here. He isn't talking about Jews as an intrinsic category, he's talking about Jews who vote Democrat.
by Telconi » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:16 am
Ifreann wrote:San Lumen wrote:
No he did not say however what Trump said is very similar to what Hitler said which was Jews are not loyal to the state.
And the usual suspects don't care about that, they're just going to argue about it to waste your time and to laugh at you getting emotionally invested in the argument.
by Telconi » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:19 am
San Lumen wrote:Telconi wrote:
Oh, so when you said it was literally the same you were lying? Or alternatively, the correct usage of the word "literally" isn't part of your working vocabulary.
Also, it isn't the same at all, or even similar. Because of the all important qualifier here. He isn't talking about Jews as an intrinsic category, he's talking about Jews who vote Democrat.
and called them disloyal to Israel and therefore America. What is so hard to understand? Its a anti semitic trope that goes back to Haman
by San Lumen » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:21 am
Telconi wrote:San Lumen wrote:and called them disloyal to Israel and therefore America. What is so hard to understand? Its a anti semitic trope that goes back to Haman
If I said "All Jews who rob stores are robbers." Is that Anti-Semitic? Of course not, they're robbers because they rob stores, not because they're Jewish.
Likewise, in Trump's statement, they're disloyal because they vote Democrat, not because they're Jewish.
by Telconi » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:22 am
San Lumen wrote:Telconi wrote:
If I said "All Jews who rob stores are robbers." Is that Anti-Semitic? Of course not, they're robbers because they rob stores, not because they're Jewish.
Likewise, in Trump's statement, they're disloyal because they vote Democrat, not because they're Jewish.
It is very similar to what Hitler said. You can spin it all you want. Jewish groups in the US have condemned his comments even Netanyahu said they were wrong
by Telconi » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:25 am
by GLDF » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:27 am
by Shrillland » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:31 am
GLDF wrote:Buying Greenland isn't a bad idea, but it would add to the debt. I'd be all for it if the money was donated. We could create skilled labor and intellectual job sites for military purposes and open up immigration opportunities. It's clear that Trump didn't think this up alone, but the idea has merit and even he recognizes. It would be almost as good a save as Alaska if a good price could be negotiated. Greenland is smaller than a medium sized city and they aren't using it to do anything. Why not sell it?
by North German Realm » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:33 am
GLDF wrote:Buying Greenland isn't a bad idea, but it would add to the debt. I'd be all for it if the money was donated. We could create skilled labor and intellectual job sites for military purposes and open up immigration opportunities. It's clear that Trump didn't think this up alone, but the idea has merit and even he recognizes. It would be almost as good a save as Alaska if a good price could be negotiated. Greenland is smaller than a medium sized city and they aren't using it to do anything. Why not sell it?
5 Nov, 2020
Die Morgenpost: "We will reconsider our relationship with Poland" Reichskanzler Lagenmauer says after Polish president protested North German ultimatum that made them restore reproductive freedom. | European Society votes not to persecute Hungary for atrocities committed against Serbs, "Giving a rogue state leave to commit genocide as it sees fit." North German delegate bemoans. | Negotiations still underway in Rome, delegates arguing over the extent of indemnities Turkey might be made to pay, lawful status of Turkish collaborators during occupation of Azerbaijan, Cyprus, Syria.
by GLDF » Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:45 am
Shrillland wrote:GLDF wrote:Buying Greenland isn't a bad idea, but it would add to the debt. I'd be all for it if the money was donated. We could create skilled labor and intellectual job sites for military purposes and open up immigration opportunities. It's clear that Trump didn't think this up alone, but the idea has merit and even he recognizes. It would be almost as good a save as Alaska if a good price could be negotiated. Greenland is smaller than a medium sized city and they aren't using it to do anything. Why not sell it?
Because, once again, the people don't want it sold. There may only be 56,000 people on the island, but other countries have fought wars over smaller land with much fewer people on them. The people's wishes shouldn't be ignored for a land and mineral grabbing scheme that's meant to inflate Trump's ego.
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