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Postby Chestaan » Fri Aug 02, 2019 11:44 am

When a man goes out of his way to arm rapist death squads I find it hard to be surprised if it turns out he's also a racist. Reagan was such a bad man already that him being a racist doesn't even make me think less of him because he already has a litany of marks against his name.
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When a man goes out of his way to arm rapist death squads I find it hard to be surprised if it turns out he's also a racist. Reagan was such a bad man already that him being a racist doesn't even make me think less of him because he already has a litany of marks against his name.
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Chestaan wrote:When a man goes out of his way to arm rapist death squads I find it hard to be surprised if it turns out he's also a racist. Reagan was such a bad man already that him being a racist doesn't even make me think less of him because he already has a litany of marks against his name.

Was he a bad man though, or did he simply just have political ideas you disagree with?
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Chestaan wrote:When a man goes out of his way to arm rapist death squads I find it hard to be surprised if it turns out he's also a racist. Reagan was such a bad man already that him being a racist doesn't even make me think less of him because he already has a litany of marks against his name.

Was he a bad man though, or did he simply just have political ideas you disagree with?


As the above person very accurately described, Reagan went out of his way to arm rapist death squads, that's the contras were. So yes, he was a bad person.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Aug 02, 2019 1:51 pm

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Chestaan wrote:When a man goes out of his way to arm rapist death squads I find it hard to be surprised if it turns out he's also a racist. Reagan was such a bad man already that him being a racist doesn't even make me think less of him because he already has a litany of marks against his name.

Was he a bad man though, or did he simply just have political ideas you disagree with?


Death squads aren't an idea you disagree with. They're evil
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Postby Republican Trump of The USA » Fri Aug 02, 2019 2:58 pm

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Gagium wrote:Was he a bad man though, or did he simply just have political ideas you disagree with?


Death squads aren't an idea you disagree with. They're evil

During the 1980s Central America was under attack by left wing pro communist rebel groups supported by Cuba's Fidel, both sides committed atrocities. Reagan saved Central America from the communists as practiced the world over.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:17 pm

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Death squads aren't an idea you disagree with. They're evil

During the 1980s Central America was under attack by left wing pro communist rebel groups supported by Cuba's Fidel, both sides committed atrocities. Reagan saved Central America from the communists as practiced the world over.


Thousands of people were brutally killed. I don't know how living under a right wing tyranny is better than being under communists

Clearly America wasn't trying to defend democracy from communism, seeing all the tyrants we helped
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Postby Sundowers » Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:21 pm

still my favorite president... well either him, George, or Teddy. I cant really pick between the three.

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Republican Trump of The USA wrote:
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Death squads aren't an idea you disagree with. They're evil

During the 1980s Central America was under attack by left wing pro communist rebel groups supported by Cuba's Fidel, both sides committed atrocities. Reagan saved Central America from the communists as practiced the world over.


"But both sides!!!!1!!" is the lamest excuse in the book.
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Postby Democratic Socialist » Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:23 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Republican Trump of The USA wrote:During the 1980s Central America was under attack by left wing pro communist rebel groups supported by Cuba's Fidel, both sides committed atrocities. Reagan saved Central America from the communists as practiced the world over.


Thousands of people were brutally killed. I don't know how living under a right wing tyranny is better than being under communists

Clearly America wasn't trying to defend democracy from communism, seeing all the tyrants we helped

Today Central America is almost communist free as practiced all over the world, with western style multi political party nations, corporations and small private businesses, that would not have been possible without US President Ronald Reagan during the 1980s.

The Leftist Liberal Democrats in congress fought him all the way, and supported the Leftist pro communist groups like The Sandinista Communist Government Dictatorship of Nicaragua.

Right wing dictatorship governments can transition to multi political party nations much better and faster than communist governments.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:26 pm

Democratic Socialist wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Thousands of people were brutally killed. I don't know how living under a right wing tyranny is better than being under communists

Clearly America wasn't trying to defend democracy from communism, seeing all the tyrants we helped

Today Central America is almost communist free as practiced all over the world, with western style multi political party nations, corporations and small private businesses, that would not have been possible without US President Ronald Reagan during the 1980s.

The Leftist Liberal Democrats in congress fought him all the way, and supported the Leftist pro communist groups like The Sandinista Communist Government of Nicaragua.

Right wing governments can transition to multi political party nations much better and faster than communist governments.


First off central America isn't that democratic. Honduras's government is basically a police state. Second off it must not be too great down there in general if people are fleeing here by the thousands

Reagan supported death squads that murdered civilians and priests and nuns. I can't believe you're defending the "land of the free" aiding murderers and war criminals.
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Necroghastia wrote:
Republican Trump of The USA wrote:During the 1980s Central America was under attack by left wing pro communist rebel groups supported by Cuba's Fidel, both sides committed atrocities. Reagan saved Central America from the communists as practiced the world over.


"But both sides!!!!1!!" is the lamest excuse in the book.


I can't see the point of fighting communism "in the name of freedom" if you're just gonna arm fascists and overthrow Democratic leaders who lean a little too far left.

Chile before augusto Pinochet was a democratic country with a left wing president. Chile during Pinochet (the guy we put in) was a place where thousands of people were killed. All that blood is on American hands
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Postby Democratic Socialist » Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:31 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Democratic Socialist wrote:Today Central America is almost communist free as practiced all over the world, with western style multi political party nations, corporations and small private businesses, that would not have been possible without US President Ronald Reagan during the 1980s.

The Leftist Liberal Democrats in congress fought him all the way, and supported the Leftist pro communist groups like The Sandinista Communist Government of Nicaragua.

Right wing governments can transition to multi political party nations much better and faster than communist governments.


First off central America isn't that democratic. Honduras's government is basically a police state. Second off it must not be too great down there in general if people are fleeing here by the thousands

Reagan supported death squads that murdered civilians and priests and nuns. I can't believe you're defending the "land of the free" aiding murderers and war criminals.

Are you supporting the communist dictatorship governments that would have taken over Central America and never transition to multi political party nations, that is what would have happened in Central America, if it were not for President Reagan?
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Postby Highever » Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:32 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
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"But both sides!!!!1!!" is the lamest excuse in the book.


I can't see the point of fighting communism "in the name of freedom" if you're just gonna arm fascists and overthrow Democratic leaders who lean a little too far left.

Which is basically the summary of US foreign policy during the cold war.
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Democratic Socialist wrote:
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First off central America isn't that democratic. Honduras's government is basically a police state. Second off it must not be too great down there in general if people are fleeing here by the thousands

Reagan supported death squads that murdered civilians and priests and nuns. I can't believe you're defending the "land of the free" aiding murderers and war criminals.

Are you supporting the communist dictatorship governments that would have taken over Central America and never transition to multi political party nations, that is what would have happened in Central America, if it were not for President Reagan?


Says the guy who literally is supporting people who gunned down priests, shot kids and burned towns down. I support not getting involved in a fight that involves two evil sides and no good guys. Fighting communism isn't that important to me if the other guys are authoritarians too, because by propping up right wing militas, we told the world our fight against communism was about protecting capitalism, not about protecting freedom and human dignity
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Democratic Socialist wrote:Are you supporting the communist dictatorship governments that would have taken over Central America and never transition to multi political party nations, that is what would have happened in Central America, if it were not for President Reagan?


Says the guy who literally is supporting people who gunned down priests, shot kids and burned towns down. I support not getting involved in a fight that involves two evil sides and no good guys. Fighting communism isn't that important to me if the other guys are authoritarians too, because by propping up right wing militas, we told the world our fight against communism was about protecting capitalism, not about protecting freedom and human dignity

Sorry, I quoted you and posted from the wrong nation, yes I am Democratic Socialist, Republican Trump of The USA and Greater Miami Shores, I don't mind other fellow nations know these are my other nations as well, I hate the words puppet nations, they are all my nations.

As I stated and I think most of us can agree, if the Communists of the time as practiced the word over had won, they would never have transitioned to multi political party nations, without President Reagan.

As I said both sides committed atrocities.

As a Native Cuban and Cuban American citizen, the defeat of those would be communist regimes was very important.
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Says the guy who literally is supporting people who gunned down priests, shot kids and burned towns down. I support not getting involved in a fight that involves two evil sides and no good guys. Fighting communism isn't that important to me if the other guys are authoritarians too, because by propping up right wing militas, we told the world our fight against communism was about protecting capitalism, not about protecting freedom and human dignity

Sorry, I quoted you and posted from the wrong nation, yes I am Democratic Socialist, Republican Trump of The USA and Greater Miami Shores, I don't mind other fellow nations know these are my other nations as well, I hate the words puppet nations, they are all my nations.

As I stated and I think most of us can agree, if the Communists of the time as practiced the word over had won, they would never have transitioned to multi political party nations, without President Reagan.

As I said both sides committed atrocities.

As a Native Cuban and Cuban American citizen, the defeat of those would be communist regimes was very important.


While I understand your reasons for hating communism and hate communism myself, I don't support helping equally terrible people

Also there still would be a chance for democracy even if they went communist in central america. Poland was communist till 1991 and is now a thriving democracy in Europe and member of NATO
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Republican Trump of The USA wrote:Sorry, I quoted you and posted from the wrong nation, yes I am Democratic Socialist, Republican Trump of The USA and Greater Miami Shores, I don't mind other fellow nations know these are my other nations as well, I hate the words puppet nations, they are all my nations.

As I stated and I think most of us can agree, if the Communists of the time as practiced the word over had won, they would never have transitioned to multi political party nations, without President Reagan.

As I said both sides committed atrocities.

As a Native Cuban and Cuban American citizen, the defeat of those would be communist regimes was very important.


While I understand your reasons for hating communism and hate communism myself, I don't support helping equally terrible people

Also there still would be a chance for democracy even if they went communist in central america. Poland was communist till 1991 and is now a thriving democracy in Europe and member of NATO

Ok you came up with one rare example, and it was also do to capitalist pressures not appeasement.

"While I understand your reasons for hating communism and hate communism myself, I don't support helping equally terrible people " Cool.

But as I said, they would not have transitioned to multi political party nations without Reagan's help. Their would have been executions and exiles of priests, nuns, LGBTs, political prisoners, nationalizations, eternal one political party state dictatorships like Cuba's and Venezuela, millions and millions of Central American refugees today compared to the numbers of today, without President Reagan.

So overall I thank President Reagan for saving Central America from communism as practiced all over the world and Cuba.

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Postby Cedoria » Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:32 pm

Not sure how anybody could have thought he wasn't racist with his whole 'welfare queen' dog-whistle crap. People still try to tell me that wasn't racist, which it fucking was. Same people who try to tell me Billy Graham wasn't a raging bigot and anti-Semite until he was caught on tape being both.

That Nixon was that level of shithead surprises nobody.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Aug 02, 2019 4:36 pm

Republican Trump of The USA wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
While I understand your reasons for hating communism and hate communism myself, I don't support helping equally terrible people

Also there still would be a chance for democracy even if they went communist in central america. Poland was communist till 1991 and is now a thriving democracy in Europe and member of NATO

Ok you came up with one rare example, and it was also do to capitalist pressures not appeasement.

"While I understand your reasons for hating communism and hate communism myself, I don't support helping equally terrible people " Cool.

But as I said, they would not have transitioned to multi political party nations without Reagan's help. Their would have been executions and exiles of priests, nuns, LGBTs, political prisoners, nationalizations, eternal one political party state dictatorships like Cuba's and Venezuela, millions and millions of Central American refugees today compared to the numbers of today, without President Reagan.

So overall I thank President Reagan for saving Central America from communism as practiced all over the world and Cuba.


Too bad he didn't save them from the right wing terrorists. And it isn't just Poland that became Democratic after communism. Czech republic, slovakia, albania, Bulgaria, Slovenia. They all became Democratic after communism fell. Reagan didn't save Latin American freedom. He just sacrificed thousands of innocent lives to stop communism, like how he was propping up the apartheid government in South Africa because some of the people in the anti apartheid movement were communists. The people of Latin America aren't living much different in a right wing dictatorship than they would be in a communist one
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Postby Highever » Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:00 pm

Republican Trump of The USA wrote:
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While I understand your reasons for hating communism and hate communism myself, I don't support helping equally terrible people

Also there still would be a chance for democracy even if they went communist in central america. Poland was communist till 1991 and is now a thriving democracy in Europe and member of NATO

Ok you came up with one rare example, and it was also do to capitalist pressures not appeasement.

"While I understand your reasons for hating communism and hate communism myself, I don't support helping equally terrible people " Cool.

But as I said, they would not have transitioned to multi political party nations without Reagan's help. Their would have been executions and exiles of priests, nuns, LGBTs, political prisoners, nationalizations, eternal one political party state dictatorships like Cuba's and Venezuela, millions and millions of Central American refugees today compared to the numbers of today, without President Reagan.

So overall I thank President Reagan for saving Central America from communism as practiced all over the world and Cuba.

There are numerous nations that transitioned from communism to democracies. Hell, one of the most stable and modern, Czechia, did exactly that. Plus what exactly is your argument here, that removing any left leaning government by supporting death squads, even if it was democratically elected....prevented it from not being democratically elected...?
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