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Postby Olerand » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:38 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Aside from obvious Wikipedia and NS, what other English-speaking websites are you a regular of?

We don't read about them too often in Portuguese, either, but they were mentioned by our Uncyclopedia back in the day.

We are always late to these things. Most in France did not know what a butt plug was until an American artist unveiled a huge butt plug in a square in Paris. It offended the reinvigorated Catholics and far-right and they deflated it over night.

So, yeah. Most French people didn't know what butt plugs were.(I did, ha ha, I guess?)

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Olerand wrote:There is a sociological study about this, in 2008?

How have I only just heard of this phenomena?


Furries have technically been around since Ancient Egypt. The modern Furry Fandom has been around since the 90s.

Alright, settle down, I just discovered this. No need for the flood of information.
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Postby Tyrandel » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:40 pm

Beta Test wrote:Has anymore information about this come out? It's just so weird.

The chlorine in question was powdered chlorine, which is used for both pools and various household purposes. It was not WWI chemical weaponry. The hotel in question has no pool (thank Las Palmeras for that fact) but it could be using it for household purposes.

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Salus Maior wrote:I honestly thought this was an rp title at first :P

Well, hope the weirdos get better, and that whoever responsible is brought to justice.

Some of us take "weirdo" as a compliment.

I am one of those. If it wasn't weird it would not be as fun.

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Postby Wisconsin9 » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:45 pm

Jesus, I thought from the title that this was something in II.
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Postby Planeia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:45 pm

Tyrandel wrote:
Planeia wrote:Some of us take "weirdo" as a compliment.

I am one of those. If it wasn't weird it would not be as fun.

My thoughts 100% accurately XD
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Postby Napkiraly » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:55 pm

Olthar wrote:
Urran wrote:
Furries do to, just most are on the net and not out in the open as the pony fandom.

Like that one that makes and sells dragon-shaped dongs?

Smaug the Orgasmer.

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Postby The divided » Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:59 pm

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:
Obviously an attack...

I have little to say for that. You've angered me enough with this, you've kept making me angry by saying it was a fetish. I'm done with it.


But it is a fetish, by definition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetish_fashion

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Postby Armed Nation of Apocalypse Believers » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:02 pm

I speak on behalf of the otaku nation. I guarantee they along with me would be outraged at this act.

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Postby Scomagia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:04 pm

The divided wrote:
Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:I have little to say for that. You've angered me enough with this, you've kept making me angry by saying it was a fetish. I'm done with it.


But it is a fetish, by definition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetish_fashion

Only if there's a sexual component, which there isn't for everyone in that community.
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Postby Planeia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:05 pm

Olthar wrote:
Urran wrote:
Furries do to, just most are on the net and not out in the open as the pony fandom.

Like that one that makes and sells dragon-shaped dongs?

Bad-Dragon? (Don't ask)

What about them?
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Postby Olerand » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:05 pm

The divided wrote:
Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:I have little to say for that. You've angered me enough with this, you've kept making me angry by saying it was a fetish. I'm done with it.


But it is a fetish, by definition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetish_fashion

No, not exactly.

"Fetish fashions are sometimes confused with costuming, because both are usually understood to be clothing that is not worn as the usual wardrobe of people, and is instead worn to create a particular reaction.
Fetish fashions are usually considered to be separate from those clothing items used in cosplay, whereby these exotic fashions are specifically used as costuming to effect a certain situation rather than to be merely worn; such as the creation of a character for picture play.
They are usually made of materials such as leather, latex or synthetic rubber or plastic, nylon, PVC, spandex, fishnet, and stainless steel. Some fetish fashion items include: stiletto heel shoes and boots (most notably the ballet boot), hobble skirts, corsets, collars, full-body latex catsuits, stockings, miniskirt, crotchless underwear, garters, locks, rings, zippers, eyewear, handcuffs, and stylized costumes based on more traditional outfits, such as wedding dresses that are almost completely see-through lace."

But, somewhat close. But not exactly.
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Postby The divided » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:08 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Petnagonia wrote:Meh, I don't see how it affects me one way or another.

"Meh, I don't see how 9/11 affects me one way or another."


Please don't tell me your comparing this to 9/11. Come on.

Scomagia wrote:
The divided wrote:
But it is a fetish, by definition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fetish_fashion

Only if there's a sexual component, which there isn't for everyone in that community.


Fetishes don't have to be sexual.

However, two polls conducted on the subject concluded that there is at least a sizable sexual dynamic to the fandom, with one of the polls finding that 79% had at least some degree of a sexual interest in furries.

https://sites.google.com/site/anthropom ... urvey-2011
http://www.cannedgeek.com/images/shared ... ldraft.PDF
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Postby Noraika » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:35 pm

What an outrageous and downright unacceptable. I hope that the 19 people hospitalised recover in good time, and that the culprit is caught and charged to the fullest extent of the law.

Don't care what the opinion is on furries, but to attack other people based on something so trivial is just sad.
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Postby Gauthier » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:48 pm

Noraika wrote:What an outrageous and downright unacceptable. I hope that the 19 people hospitalised recover in good time, and that the culprit is caught and charged to the fullest extent of the law.

Don't care what the opinion is on furries, but to attack other people based on something so trivial is just sad.


And as some posts in this thread showed, even more pathetic to wish you were the one who did it.
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Postby Tmutarakhan » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:54 pm

Blazedtown wrote:
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Not really, animals lack the ability to consent due to lacking the intellect to.
Anthropomorphic animals as depicted are effectively human in terms of intellect and ability to consent. They may not be to my taste, but someone who pursued and fucked one for real would be no different than anyone else would shags sentient beings, they would be separate from a dog/horse/goat fucker who rapes an animal that's not mentally near their equal.


So you'd be okay someone fucking a dolphin or a chimp, since those are alleged to on our level?

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Postby Scomagia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:58 pm

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Noraika wrote:What an outrageous and downright unacceptable. I hope that the 19 people hospitalised recover in good time, and that the culprit is caught and charged to the fullest extent of the law.

Don't care what the opinion is on furries, but to attack other people based on something so trivial is just sad.


And as some posts in this thread showed, even more pathetic to wish you were the one who did it.

Fortunately, we can be sure that those voicing such opinions will be punished.
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Postby Columbion » Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:02 pm

I don't condone violence, but something should be done about people with species identity disorder, its a serious mental health issue that should be focused on and treated via medication or a shrink (maybe even through religion).
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Postby Olerand » Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:03 pm

Columbion wrote:I don't condone violence, but something should be done about people with species identity disorder, its a serious mental health issue that should be focused on and treated via medication or a shrink (maybe even through religion).

People's personal choices are their own. As long as this does not cross any other lines, their behavior is odd, but legal and "acceptable".
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Postby Columbion » Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:05 pm

Olerand wrote:
Columbion wrote:I don't condone violence, but something should be done about people with species identity disorder, its a serious mental health issue that should be focused on and treated via medication or a shrink (maybe even through religion).

People's personal choices are their own. As long as this does not cross any other lines, their behavior is odd, but legal and "acceptable".


Except its not a choice, its a mental issue. There is some underlying cause for people in that so called "subculture" to be in there.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Sun Dec 07, 2014 11:09 pm

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Postby Reploid Productions » Mon Dec 08, 2014 1:34 am

17 pages later... hold onto your butts, here we go. And here I thought Nerv cleaning up that "ban atheism" fustercluck was going to be the bloodiest thread today...

Alright, let's get the easy ones outta the way first.
Lingang wrote:I think that everything about this is horrible. Both the attack and the Furries bunch of weirdos

Putting it in small text doesn't make calling an entire group of people weirdos any less trollish/flamebaity. Knock it off.

Trevor Phillip Enterprises wrote:I think we found the person who commited the crime...but seriously WTF is wrong with you?
Trevor Phillip Enterprises wrote:Just show him a picture of a man holding hands with another man. He will still get a heart attack.

Less flamebaiting of posters you disagree with, more discussing the topic please. Knock these antics off, thank you.

Northern Canuckistan wrote:As dumb as furries are

Much like the others above, you can express sympathy or outrage for the situation without trolling in the process. Knock it off.

And then the official warns...
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Salus Maior wrote:hope the weirdos get better

Again, you can express sympathy without the trolling.

*** Salus Maior, warned for trolling. ***

On to the bans...
Jumalariik wrote:Furryism is strange, and either indicates 1. no life 2. too much leisure time 3. weird psychological problems or 4. all three

What does this have to do with the thread topic about the chlorine at the convention? How is this anything other than blatant "All X are Y" trolling? You're beginning to rack up a concerning history. Maybe stronger measures will impress the fact you need to follow the site rules better than the prior warnings have.

*** Jumalariik, 1 day ban for trolling. ***

The Bosakian Sultanate wrote:Don't use chlorine gas! Use animal repellent!

Given your extensive history, you should really be steering clear of particularly vague posts that might have been meant as a joke. With a long history like yours, moderation tends to view such ambiguity in a much less optimistic light. That being said:

*** The Bosakian Sultanate, 7-day ban for trolling. ***

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:No. It's you. You're the problem. What one person likes is something that can't be limited by the government, nor can it be limited by your bullshit. Seriously, at this point, you need to be shown a mirror, because I have been through a lot, but to say that it's a fucking fetish makes me want to attack and maliciously harm people like you, because I go against your morals, whoopsie ducking do, because I SO want to hear about you cry and bitch more and more about this.
Go ahead. Go and whine and bitch about how this is "unmoral", then say you just have no proof.

While I understand that this is a touchy subject for you, that does not excuse flying off the handle and flaming another user. As others posted after your rant, you need to calm down, walk away from the computer, and not post when you know you're in a compromised emotional state.

I know you already got hit with a 3-day ban earlier today for an unrelated offense, but between this and your warning history, I'm afraid I have to up it. *** Furry Alairia and Algeria, 7-day ban for flaming. ***

Columbion wrote:I don't condone violence, but something should be done about people with species identity disorder, its a serious mental health issue that should be focused on and treated via medication or a shrink (maybe even through religion).
Columbion wrote:Except its not a choice, its a mental issue. There is some underlying cause for people in that so called "subculture" to be in there.

You have been warned in the past for the "all furries are mentally ill" trolling via your fake-psychology jargon about the non-existent "species identity disorder." And believe me, it does not exist. I checked with those I know who are studying psychology or are doctors in the field who have actually read the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, both versions IV and V. Nowhere in either of those is there anything that remotely fits the description of your trolling "disorder."

*** Columbion, 7-day ban for trolling. ***

And lastly, on to the DEATs. Yes. Plural.
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TurtleShroom wrote:Where did I say kebabs did it?

You have got a rap sheet a mile long. Warnings and bans have failed to impress on you the need to reconsider how you approach voicing your opinions. You continue to voice your opinions in inappropriate manners, and so it's time to up the ante.

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Vamtrl wrote:I am thinking of sending A&B a link to the VICE documentary of men having sex with donkeys.

Another one with a lengthy warning history, one would have hoped you would think better than to announce your desire to flamebait another user with obscene material.

*** Vamtrl, DEAT for flamebaiting. ***

Burleson wrote:Anyways, while those people are sick and disgusting

Given your truly staggering warning history both forum and gameside, I am honestly amazed we haven't done this sooner.

*** Burleson, DEAT for trolling. ***

Blazedtown wrote:I swear it wasn't me, as much as I wish it was.
Blazedtown wrote:No but jacking it to pictures of animated animals is a pretty good indication that they want to fuck animals.
Blazedtown wrote:Which is damn close to bestiality.

So we've got "I wish I'd gassed a bunch of people" and a slew of outright trolling. And you just got back recently from a week off. Clearly, you have not learned that the rules apply to you, and you have shown beyond any doubt you do not intend to learn. As such, you do not get to keep your nation.

*** Blazedtown, DEAT for advocating criminal activity and trolling. ***

All that said and done, while I know the situation with the alleged attack is still a developing story, this thread is a pretty unsalvageable wreck. I'm leaving this one locked, but if someone would like to start up a new thread on the story, go ahead. Let's just make sure the sequel stays on the topic of the alleged attack on the furry con, and less of the derailing into the morality of furry fandom, furry fetishes, and so on and so forth.

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