Biphobia in the LGBT community

[Hamstan]

This is basically my reaction to the op

[Cekoviu]

This is basically my reaction to the op

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feel the stirn

[Scomagia]

This is basically my reaction to the op

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Funny picture.

Lousy point.

[Luvria]

...Well, I don't view the sexual part of it as the most important or main part either and think it's much more than that.

What I have seen from the LGBT community is an overemphasis on being LGBT. Just like how racial associations devolve into an overemphasis on race and men's clubs become overly focused on "masculinity".

Not interested. Hard pass.

Yeah. I see the same thing, the cliqueyness and the overemphasis on sex. I guess I still technically am included in the community though.

[Scomagia]

What I have seen from the LGBT community is an overemphasis on being LGBT. Just like how racial associations devolve into an overemphasis on race and men's clubs become overly focused on "masculinity".

Not interested. Hard pass.

Yeah. I see the same thing, the cliqueyness and the overemphasis on sex. I guess I still technically am included in the community though.

No, you're in the category. You're only in "the community" if you want to be. They have no right to speak on your behalf or represent you just because of an innate similarity.

[Eastern Denmark]

Yeah. I see the same thing, the cliqueyness and the overemphasis on sex. I guess I still technically am included in the community though.

No, you're in the category. You're only in "the community" if you want to be. They have no right to speak on your behalf or represent you just because of an innate similarity.

Who’s the “they” in this scenario, who would attempt to be speaking on behalf of the entire LGBT community? Nobody normal does that...

[Paleoconservative Citizens]

Me neither. People think I'm a blatant homophobe, when I don't hate gay people.
._.

It's hard to explain

Unfortunately, this is heavily contradicted by many of your posts.

It's hard to explain my actions without causing a huge argument. And the reason behind why I have a disdain towards Homosexuality, NOT Homosexuals.

[Scomagia]

No, you're in the category. You're only in "the community" if you want to be. They have no right to speak on your behalf or represent you just because of an innate similarity.

Who’s the “they” in this scenario, who would attempt to be speaking on behalf of the entire LGBT community? Nobody normal does that...

I'm saying the LGBT "community" has no right to speak for people who belong to the groups of which the "community" is made.

People, even normal ones, often speak too broadly and try to represent people who are similar to them. Race, sexuality, religion, etc. It happens all the time

[Katganistan]

People believe stupid shit. I was told, with a detailed explanation, that it was impossible for a bisexual to engage in a monogamous relationship.

Heard that too, even though it is total shit.

It's the kind of 'othering' people do to try and convince themselves that there is something wrong with being bisexual. "Oh they're very promiscuous." No more than heterosexuals, I imagine.

[The New California Republic]

Heard that too, even though it is total shit.

It's the kind of 'othering' people do to try and convince themselves that there is something wrong with being bisexual. "Oh they're very promiscuous." No more than heterosexuals, I imagine.

There is a ridiculous assumption held by some that bisexual people are promiscuous, based on the non sequitur of: they can be attracted to more people, so they sleep with more people.

[Scomagia]

It's the kind of 'othering' people do to try and convince themselves that there is something wrong with being bisexual. "Oh they're very promiscuous." No more than heterosexuals, I imagine.

There is a ridiculous assumption held by some that bisexual people are promiscuous, based on the non sequitur of: they can be attracted to more people, so they sleep with more people.

Yeah, it's just a dumb stereotype. I'm pretty prudish, myself.

[NERVUN]

Op did mention transexuals and went on to talk about bi people... But I do agree with your point that the acronym is rather idiotic as it should end after LGB... Everything beyond it is the fetishization of mental illness

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[Katganistan]

No, the wider community can get pretty cliquey among other things. Which is why some LGBT people don't want to be associated with it.

It's not really not wanting to get involved with anyone in the LGBT community, it's more just finding a part of the community disagreeable. Some people have only had experiences with a part of it they don't like and think the entire community is just like that, which is unfortunate, but it happens.

A different perspective:
Some of us find our sexuality isn't the most important or even a major part of our identity and thus don't care to associate with "communities" that are based on essentially the opposite view.

And that is absolutely valid.

[Katganistan]

It's the kind of 'othering' people do to try and convince themselves that there is something wrong with being bisexual. "Oh they're very promiscuous." No more than heterosexuals, I imagine.

There is a ridiculous assumption held by some that bisexual people are promiscuous, based on the non sequitur of: they can be attracted to more people, so they sleep with more people.

Exactly. Also you have very rigid people who have to find something WRONG with it because it's not in their perception of how the world works, so they come up with this fantasy to explain why their "ick" reaction is valid.

[New haven america]

It's the kind of 'othering' people do to try and convince themselves that there is something wrong with being bisexual. "Oh they're very promiscuous." No more than heterosexuals, I imagine.

There is a ridiculous assumption held by some that bisexual people are promiscuous, based on the non sequitur of: they can be attracted to more people, so they sleep with more people.

There are also gay people who believe that bi people who have been with both sexes are tainted by the sex their not attracted to and thus broken/damaged or used goods.

[The New California Republic]

There is a ridiculous assumption held by some that bisexual people are promiscuous, based on the non sequitur of: they can be attracted to more people, so they sleep with more people.

Exactly. Also you have very rigid people who have to find something WRONG with it because it's not in their perception of how the world works, so they come up with this fantasy to explain why their "ick" reaction is valid.

Yup. I honestly don't believe that anyone could truly be blind to it being a non sequitur, except by being willingly blind to it because it's a convenient excuse.

There is a ridiculous assumption held by some that bisexual people are promiscuous, based on the non sequitur of: they can be attracted to more people, so they sleep with more people.

There are also gay people who believe that bi people who have been with both sexes are tainted by the sex their not attracted to and thus broken or used goods.

Yes I have played witness to this rather strange notion a few times, and I have never really got to the bottom of why people think that.

[Scomagia]

There is a ridiculous assumption held by some that bisexual people are promiscuous, based on the non sequitur of: they can be attracted to more people, so they sleep with more people.

Exactly. Also you have very rigid people who have to find something WRONG with it because it's not in their perception of how the world works, so they come up with this fantasy to explain why their "ick" reaction is valid.

I think it's probably more often born of insecurity. If you're an insecure person and your partner only expresses interest in one sex, cool. You sorta know what to be watching for, right? Like if you're in a hetero marriage and your partner is male, you know to be curious if they're suddenly spending a lot of time with a specific woman. If you are insecure and your partner is bi, you have no idea what to watch for.

I guess that's how it'd work? I'm a super secure person so it's difficult to imagine being so paranoid but a lot of folks are.

[New haven america]

Exactly. Also you have very rigid people who have to find something WRONG with it because it's not in their perception of how the world works, so they come up with this fantasy to explain why their "ick" reaction is valid.

Yup. I honestly don't believe that anyone could truly be blind to it being a non sequitur, except by being willingly blind to it because it's a convenient excuse.

There are also gay people who believe that bi people who have been with both sexes are tainted by the sex their not attracted to and thus broken or used goods.

Yes I have played witness to this rather strange notion a few times, and I have never really got to the bottom of why people think that.

Because every community needs people to gate keep, regardless of how petty and illogical your reasons need be.

[Telconi]

People believe stupid shit. I was told, with a detailed explanation, that it was impossible for a bisexual to engage in a monogamous relationship.

Shit, that's news to me.

Yeah, apparently because a bisexual is attracted to both men and women they can't be in a monogamous relationship because their partner is either a man or a woman, not both. Oh, and if you pick a monogamous relationship with the opposite gender than you're straight now, and no longer Bisexual.

[Hedge Fund Alsace]

This may be a bit off-topic in terms of OP's subject, but i felt that this needed to be made clear.


It is impossible to be bisexual.

I liken it to a mental illness as with transgenders; if you are a man, and you like men, you are gay. If you also like women, but are currently dating men, that still makes you gay.

You cannot be 'biphobic' if the very concept of being 'bisexual' is a contradiction in and of itself.

As with transgenders (a bit off-topic sry) - I find it a highly misused term. According to Google's definition, a transgender person is denoted as someone, "whose sense of... ...identity and gender does not correspond with their birth sex.."

To sum it up, you can be a man who likes girly things, dresses like a girl, 'talks' like a girl, but that does not mean that makes said person a girl. If your last pair of chromosomes are XY, then that means you are still a man. Asking people to refer to you as something that you are clearly not is akin to a mental illness;

Say if I were walking around claiming I was the second coming of Christ. People would, right away, ostracize me, laugh at me and dismiss me as loony. But when a man walks around calling himself a woman - asking others to refer to him as such - people encourage that type of behaviour?

But i digress.

Listen, I do not care what you do with your life, and i certainly do not care whether you like men or women. But if you have the need to go out of your way, and assert to me what gender you prefer me to call you, count me out.

If the entire crux of your personality revolves around the self gratification you receive when someone calls you something you are clearly not, you are a shallow human being.

Just be yourself, and don't bother anyone.

[Scomagia]

This may be a bit off-topic in terms of OP's subject, but i felt that this needed to be made clear.


It is impossible to be bisexual.

I liken it to a mental illness as with transgenders; if you are a man, and you like men, you are gay. If you also like women, but are currently dating men, that still makes you gay.

You cannot be 'biphobic' if the very concept of being 'bisexual' is a contradiction in and of itself.

As with transgenders (a bit off-topic sry) - I find it a highly misused term. According to Google's definition, a transgender person is denoted as someone, "whose sense of... ...identity and gender does not correspond with their birth sex.."

To sum it up, you can be a man who likes girly things, dresses like a girl, 'talks' like a girl, but that does not mean that makes said person a girl. If your last pair of chromosomes are XY, then that means you are still a man. Asking people to refer to you as something that you are clearly not is akin to a mental illness;

Say if I were walking around claiming I was the second coming of Christ. People would, right away, ostracize me, laugh at me and dismiss me as loony. But when a man walks around calling himself a woman - asking others to refer to him as such - people encourage that type of behaviour?

But i digress.

Listen, I do not care what you do with your life, and i certainly do not care whether you like men or women. But if you have the need to go out of your way, and assert to me what gender you prefer me to call you, count me out.

If the entire crux of your personality revolves around the self gratification you receive when someone calls you something you are clearly not, you are a shallow human being.

Just be yourself, and don't bother anyone.

Obviously wrong. You can be attracted to either sex and, if you are, you are bisexual. It doesn't matter who you're seeing at the time. If you are attracted to both, you're bi. End of discussion. There is no contradiction.

[Katganistan]

This may be a bit off-topic in terms of OP's subject, but i felt that this needed to be made clear.


It is impossible to be bisexual.

I liken it to a mental illness as with transgenders; if you are a man, and you like men, you are gay. If you also like women, but are currently dating men, that still makes you gay.

You cannot be 'biphobic' if the very concept of being 'bisexual' is a contradiction in and of itself.

As with transgenders (a bit off-topic sry) - I find it a highly misused term. According to Google's definition, a transgender person is denoted as someone, "whose sense of... ...identity and gender does not correspond with their birth sex.."

To sum it up, you can be a man who likes girly things, dresses like a girl, 'talks' like a girl, but that does not mean that makes said person a girl. If your last pair of chromosomes are XY, then that means you are still a man. Asking people to refer to you as something that you are clearly not is akin to a mental illness;

Say if I were walking around claiming I was the second coming of Christ. People would, right away, ostracize me, laugh at me and dismiss me as loony. But when a man walks around calling himself a woman - asking others to refer to him as such - people encourage that type of behaviour?

But i digress.

Listen, I do not care what you do with your life, and i certainly do not care whether you like men or women. But if you have the need to go out of your way, and assert to me what gender you prefer me to call you, count me out.

If the entire crux of your personality revolves around the self gratification you receive when someone calls you something you are clearly not, you are a shallow human being.

Just be yourself, and don't bother anyone.

Wow. So wrong, and yet so opinionated.

[Ostroeuropa]

Actually the jury's still out on that.

Source? Unless you're saying you consciously chose your own sexuality.

Something can be flexible, fluid, and change over time, but still not be a conscious decision.

I used to be attracted to men, and no longer am. I went from Bisexual to straight over time. I don't know why or how.

[Hedge Fund Alsace]

Wow. So wrong, and yet so opinionated.

Can you elaborate to me why you think this line of thought is wrong?

[New haven america]

This may be a bit off-topic in terms of OP's subject, but i felt that this needed to be made clear.


It is impossible to be bisexual.

I liken it to a mental illness as with transgenders; if you are a man, and you like men, you are gay. If you also like women, but are currently dating men, that still makes you gay.

You cannot be 'biphobic' if the very concept of being 'bisexual' is a contradiction in and of itself.

As with transgenders (a bit off-topic sry) - I find it a highly misused term. According to Google's definition, a transgender person is denoted as someone, "whose sense of... ...identity and gender does not correspond with their birth sex.."

To sum it up, you can be a man who likes girly things, dresses like a girl, 'talks' like a girl, but that does not mean that makes said person a girl. If your last pair of chromosomes are XY, then that means you are still a man. Asking people to refer to you as something that you are clearly not is akin to a mental illness;

Say if I were walking around claiming I was the second coming of Christ. People would, right away, ostracize me, laugh at me and dismiss me as loony. But when a man walks around calling himself a woman - asking others to refer to him as such - people encourage that type of behaviour?

But i digress.

Listen, I do not care what you do with your life, and i certainly do not care whether you like men or women. But if you have the need to go out of your way, and assert to me what gender you prefer me to call you, count me out.

If the entire crux of your personality revolves around the self gratification you receive when someone calls you something you are clearly not, you are a shallow human being.

Just be yourself, and don't bother anyone.

Opinionated, wrong, generalizing, flaming/baity, incorrect grammar, posted by a new Summer nation that was founded less than 2 weeks ago.

Guys, it's happened. The Summer Post is here. This isn't just any summer post we have here, no, this is The Summer Post. This post encapsulates everything that is wrong with NS Summer in such a quick and painful way that I have trouble believing this wasn't brought down from on high by the big guy himself.

Thank you, thank you Hedge Fund Alsace. You have brought us the most accurate summation of NS Summer to ever be posted. I don't know if your name will live on in HS history, but I will remember it.