(emphasis mine) Pretty sure this qualifies for flaming under the premise of personal attacks flinged at other players. Last two pages or so might need some thrawling too.
by Great Minarchistan » Sat Jun 22, 2019 12:31 pm
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by Lamoni » Sun Jun 23, 2019 1:53 am
Licana on the M-21A2 MBT: "Well, it is one of the most badass tanks on NS."
Vortiaganica: Lamoni I understand fully, of course. The two (Lamoni & Lyras) are more inseparable than the Clinton family and politics.
Triplebaconation: Lamoni commands a quiet respect that carries its own authority. He is the Mandela of NS.
by Torrocca » Sun Jun 23, 2019 8:22 am
by Nova Cyberia » Sun Jun 23, 2019 10:59 am
Torrocca wrote:If me calling NC a Nazi for using Nazi rhetoric is actionable as flamebait, then surely the rhetoric he used to advocate for violence against an entire community of people by calling for them to be gassed is surely actionable, too, right?:Nova Cyberia wrote:Chapo needs to be fumigated, tbh.
I just wanna be clear here on this, since this is pretty openly advocating for murder. And, yes, I completely realize I'm an utter idiot for not just reporting this from the get-go and moving on. No need to speculate on that one lol
by Nova Cyberia » Sun Jun 23, 2019 11:06 am
Dumb Ideologies wrote:I can confirm that I am Appropriately Outraged and close to suffocating under the weight of all these pearls I'm clutching.
Just another victim of this murderous metaphor.
North German Realm wrote:Nova Cyberia wrote:Yeah, all humans talk like Drax and don't use metaphors.
I mean your so-called metaphor is unnecessary and in very poor taste, to say the least. It's far more likely that you just dropped a supposedly ironic joke in the wrong community and just couldn't say "it was a bad joke, sorry. I just meant ban them" because you're not used to the type of community that protests use of terms such as fumigation as a metaphor for banning.
Proctopeo wrote:North German Realm wrote:Honestly the joke was in poor taste, but I am surprised why Torra didn't just give up when it became obvious NC isn't gonna even recognize his joke was in poor taste.
Torr's been arguing that it was and wasn't a joke so I'm not sure even she knows what she's getting at anymore tbh outside of "NC bad".TBH that happens a lot on LWDT.
Usually with less fervor.
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Torrocca wrote:
It's really not. Explain how "Chapo needs to be fumigated tbh" conveys either irony or a metaphor for "ban this community" in ANY way whatsoever.
Because we were talking about banning subreddits (something we should rarely do btw), and then he made a coy, offhand remark that a subreddit should be fumigated. That sounds a lot more like "this sun should be banned" than "I want to literally exterminate people who disagree with me."
by Torrocca » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:24 pm
by Nova Cyberia » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:54 pm
Torrocca wrote:I would like to make it abundantly clear that NC spent several pages immediately after that post not even attempting to "clarify" that he supposedly wasn't talking about gassing people, and that there were more people who directly saw it as him calling for people to be gassed.
by Torrocca » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:55 pm
Crysuko wrote:Nova Cyberia wrote:I actually chuckled audibly here.
Good grief, you live for hysteria.
Cheap? Not at all.
Well, perhaps I should have added that you also live for attacking your opponents for logging off of an internet forum for two hours lmao
you make a clearly grotesque claim, then try and hide behind the "it's just a prank!" defence. pathetic.
Bojikami wrote:Nova Cyberia wrote:So one the one hand you think it was a joke...
...and on the other you don't?
Fascinating.
Their opposition to your 'joke' was that you were lightly throwing around Nazi rhetoric, and your repeated use of said rhetoric (indicated by your posts here and your sig) indicate that you've got a bit in common with those skinheads wielding tiki torches.
The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Torrocca wrote:
No, no, it's totally not like Jewish Nazis existed. By all accounts, NC clearly can't be a Nazi despite his explicit, unironic usage of Nazi rhetoric in regards to gassing his political opposition!
Sis, jokingly saying a subreddit should be gassed is not explicit, unironic Nazi propaganda. No need to fight over an offhand comment.
North German Realm wrote:Nova Cyberia wrote:Yeah, all humans talk like Drax and don't use metaphors.
I mean your so-called metaphor is unnecessary and in very poor taste, to say the least. It's far more likely that you just dropped a supposedly ironic joke in the wrong community and just couldn't say "it was a bad joke, sorry. I just meant ban them" because you're not used to the type of community that protests use of terms such as fumigation as a metaphor for banning.
North German Realm wrote:Nova Cyberia wrote:Yeah, this is the left-wing thread so it makes sense I'd need to walk on eggshells around here.
If you think "not joking about a generally offensive topic normally only related to murder" is walking on eggshells, it's probably a safe bet to put some of the eggshells in your shoes just in case.
by Nova Cyberia » Sun Jun 23, 2019 3:59 pm
Torrocca wrote:For instance, a good couple of these come from posts made by people NC's falsely claiming saw his calls for gassing people as a joke:Crysuko wrote:you make a clearly grotesque claim, then try and hide behind the "it's just a prank!" defence. pathetic.Bojikami wrote:Their opposition to your 'joke' was that you were lightly throwing around Nazi rhetoric, and your repeated use of said rhetoric (indicated by your posts here and your sig) indicate that you've got a bit in common with those skinheads wielding tiki torches.Bojikami wrote:Advocating genocide or otherwise using genocide as a topic of humour isn't 'dark humour'. It's at the best trying to be edgy, or at worst actively trying to desensitize others.
This fourth one even agrees NC was calling for violence against a community of people, but refers to it as a joke:The Xenopolis Confederation wrote:Sis, jokingly saying a subreddit should be gassed is not explicit, unironic Nazi propaganda. No need to fight over an offhand comment.
Even NGR (who NC directly quotes) points out that they're skeptical of NC's claim that it was "just a metaphor" and not a call for violence.North German Realm wrote:I mean your so-called metaphor is unnecessary and in very poor taste, to say the least. It's far more likely that you just dropped a supposedly ironic joke in the wrong community and just couldn't say "it was a bad joke, sorry. I just meant ban them" because you're not used to the type of community that protests use of terms such as fumigation as a metaphor for banning.
And this appears to clarify NGR's opinion on the matter, in fact:North German Realm wrote:If you think "not joking about a generally offensive topic normally only related to murder" is walking on eggshells, it's probably a safe bet to put some of the eggshells in your shoes just in case.
Even further still, NC admits that he was calling for a community to be gassed (note that him treating it like a metaphor only came after some people began referring to his original post as a joke):Nova Cyberia wrote:Well, I didn't call you a triggered cuck but the rest is true.
And, apparently, NC doesn't even know what their own post was actually meant to be, considering they've ping-ponged between calling it a "metaphor" and a "joke", again several pages after outright defending their original statement rather than immediately "clarifying" which, y'know, isn't what somebody would do if their intentions were clear and obvious from the start:Nova Cyberia wrote:Kind of, yeah.
So, basically, I don't see what NC's saying as anything genuine here.
by Jakker » Sun Jun 23, 2019 5:44 pm
The Bruce wrote:Mostly I feel sorry for [raiders], because they put in all this effort and at the end of the day have nothing to show for it and have created nothing.
by Torrocca » Sun Jun 23, 2019 7:01 pm
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