Christian persecution 'at near genocide levels'

[Kowani]

It’s not even Total War, but more Clash of Clans.

I don't know what you are speaking of but is this about video games?

The oversimplification of warfare in the mind of Korhal, actually.

[Novus America]

And where would those come from?

I am sure the oh so rich Vatican can fund the Crusade.

The Vatican is not that rich.
They economy of Vatican City is minuscule.
They have a lot of assets and income, but a ton of expenses.
Also most church money is raised and spent at the local level, never goes to the Vatican.

Also no, it takes much more than some money to fight a war.

[Korhal IVV]

I am sure the oh so rich Vatican can fund the Crusade.

You have no idea how warfare is conducted, do you?

I do.

Did you actually think I was serious? Sarcasm was not detected, then? Upgrade your radars. This is all very ridiculous, amiright?

I am sure the oh so rich Vatican can fund the Crusade.

The Vatican is not that rich.
They economy of Vatican City is minuscule.
They have a lot of assets and income, but a ton of expenses.
Also most church money is raised and spent at the local level, never goes to the Vatican.

Also no, it takes much more than some money to fight a war.

Trump would probably love a good Crusade regardless.

Actually, no, it won't happen.

America could help.

Yeah I don't think the United states, or pretty much any country for that matter, is going to allow its official military hardware to be sold to a zealous mob or allow them to transit through their borders to reach Jerusalem.

The Imperium of Man would. And then kill both in the end.

You have no idea how warfare is conducted, do you?

It's just like buying mercenaries in total war right? You just hit a button and get the nice shiny things you want?

No, obviously.

It's just like buying mercenaries in total war right? You just hit a button and get the nice shiny things you want?

It’s not even Total War, but more Clash of Clans.

Never heard of that. I play Stellaris. And Battlefleet Gothic. And Civilization V.

I don't know what you are speaking of but is this about video games?

The oversimplification of warfare in the mind of Korhal, actually.

/sarcasm

It’s not even Total War, but more Clash of Clans.

Damn, that means they cant even use the character_reset command to get to the crusade target in decent time.

Ask Emperor Alexus Comnenus to help with transitting them through the Bosporus... oh, no.

[Korhal IVV]

So basically all religious groups are being persecuted at least somewhere on the world, often by another religious group.

Well, we are the ones getting murdered the most by percentage. Just like the good old days of Nero and Caligula and Claudius and whatever-his-name was.

[Page]

Persecution of Christians is definitely a real thing in certain parts of the world, such as the persecution of Assyrian Christians in the Middle East, and it often goes unacknowledged by the West.

I think first world Christians are partly to blame for making persecution less visible. When a Christian in American or the UK claims to be persecuted, that's bullshit and everyone knows that bullshit, so people who aren't educated about Christianity outside of the first world start thinking it's always bullshit. American Christians cry wolf so often that people think the wolves in other parts of the world aren't real.

[Highever]

So basically all religious groups are being persecuted at least somewhere on the world, often by another religious group.

Well, we are the ones getting murdered the most by percentage. Just like the good old days of Nero and Caligula and Claudius and whatever-his-name was.

Caligula and Claudius did not persecute christians. That did not start until 64 AD.

[Highever]

The Imperium of Man would. And then kill both in the end.

Psh, no it wouldn't, it would skip right to killing them, both Pre-Heresy and Post. Religion was one of the primary things done away with and targeted by the Emperor of Mankind and the Imperium after his sacrifice would consider it heretical to their ironic Cult of the Emperor.

[Korhal IVV]

Well, we are the ones getting murdered the most by percentage. Just like the good old days of Nero and Caligula and Claudius and whatever-his-name was.

Caligula and Claudius did not persecute christians. That did not start until 64 AD.

Me memory is being sketchy, but okay.

The Imperium of Man would. And then kill both in the end.

Psh, no it wouldn't, it would skip right to killing them, both Pre-Heresy and Post. Religion was one of the primary things done away with and targeted by the Emperor of Mankind and the Imperium after his sacrifice would consider it heretical to their ironic Cult of the Emperor.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Persecution of Christians is definitely a real thing in certain parts of the world, such as the persecution of Assyrian Christians in the Middle East, and it often goes unacknowledged by the West.

Pakistan is also a dangerous place for Christians. Mobs attacking people on trumped up accusations of blasphemy.

[Highever]

Persecution of Christians is definitely a real thing in certain parts of the world, such as the persecution of Assyrian Christians in the Middle East, and it often goes unacknowledged by the West.

Pakistan is also a dangerous place for Christians. Mobs attacking people on trumped up accusations of blasphemy.

Northern or Eastern India is somewhat hostile towards them as well arent they?

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

Pakistan is also a dangerous place for Christians. Mobs attacking people on trumped up accusations of blasphemy.

Northern or Eastern India is somewhat hostile towards them as well arent they?

I think the cow vigilantes are more focused on attacking Muslims.

[Esternial]

I feel like this thread is partly a rant about islamophobia stealing christophobia's thunder or something.

Lots of Christians get ganked in the Middle East because Islam is the reigning religion there and how they do things in the Middle East is not how they do things in Westernized nations. Pretty sure you've got enough people trying to get rid of "muslems" in places where other religions hold the belt, but they're not as keen to resort to lynching anymore.

[Chestaan]

Nah, but you did try and make this thread about trannsexuals for whatever weird reason.

It's almost like the people complaining about being persecuted shouldn't at the same time persecute others.

Stop being a bigot Nove Cyberia. When you do I'll care more about your worries about being persecuted.

A poster on the internet being a bigot in no way makes the persecution of any religious group something that can be dismissed.

Your argument reeks of the far right pointing out that some Muslim majority countries engage in several human rights abuses when oppression of Muslims is brought up. Both arguments are irrelevant to the topic of whether or not we should tolerate religious persecution.

[Chestaan]

Any response to this topic, and indeed any topic of oppression of a minority group, that isn't a straightforward condemnation of this oppression is disgusting and should be treated as such. This includes "this is terrible but what about..." arguments that people on this thread are sadly engaging in.

[Eglaecia]

There's only reports when its too big for the media to ignore, ie Sri Lanka.

https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-africa-48094789

First page. Didn’t even have to try. Just typed in “killing of Christians in Africa.”

This came a week after the bombings of Sri Lanka so it was significant.

[Eglaecia]

I feel like this thread is partly a rant about islamophobia stealing christophobia's thunder or something.

Lots of Christians get ganked in the Middle East because Islam is the reigning religion there and how they do things in the Middle East is not how they do things in Westernized nations. Pretty sure you've got enough people trying to get rid of "muslems" in places where other religions hold the belt, but they're not as keen to resort to lynching anymore.

A few racist people calling a hijabi a towelhead does not compare in anyway to organised slaughter.

[Hanafuridake]

So basically all religious groups are being persecuted at least somewhere on the world, often by another religious group.

Well, we are the ones getting murdered the most by percentage. Just like the good old days of Nero and Caligula and Claudius and whatever-his-name was.

It says a lot that you can't actually remember the name of someone you claim massively persecuted your religion.

And considering Caligula died only a few years after Jesus, he didn't even know Christianity was a thing.

[Eglaecia]

Well, we are the ones getting murdered the most by percentage. Just like the good old days of Nero and Caligula and Claudius and whatever-his-name was.

It says a lot that you can't actually remember the name of someone you claim massively persecuted your religion.

And considering Caligula died only a few years after Jesus, he didn't even know Christianity was a thing.

Are you seriously trying to contest the idea that Christians were persecuted by the Romans

[Mojave Confederation]

It's simply because the news of christian persecution in an otherwise not-christian-majority often happen in area where the freedom of media is hard to get by, at the very least by societal norm, rather than the opposite is the reason of seemingly media blackout, rather than political correctness. For those who try to put "lmao them islam did it", try to look up Israel or PRC persecution against Christian activity in their area. It also didn't help that organization like World Council of Churches and other global christian non-governmental organization often get discredited by the christian themselves, especially in countries like America, even as they report and help various oppressed christian group around the globe.

What need to be done is instead trying to push "muh political correctness" agenda all the time, is for the Christians, especially first-world Christians, to actually pay attention to what actually happening with other christian around the world, even with differing beliefs, and even if its happening in what is seems like far flung area on the globe. Too many people react with "well, that's a shitty place, so of course shitty things happen" when they hear fellow Christians are oppressed instead, and this attitude does not spread awareness that oppression is currently happening, which in of itself is already stifled by the lack of freedom of information.

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

It says a lot that you can't actually remember the name of someone you claim massively persecuted your religion.

And considering Caligula died only a few years after Jesus, he didn't even know Christianity was a thing.

Are you seriously trying to contest the idea that Christians were persecuted by the Romans

How the fuck could you conclude that from the posts you quoted?

[Esternial]

I feel like this thread is partly a rant about islamophobia stealing christophobia's thunder or something.

Lots of Christians get ganked in the Middle East because Islam is the reigning religion there and how they do things in the Middle East is not how they do things in Westernized nations. Pretty sure you've got enough people trying to get rid of "muslems" in places where other religions hold the belt, but they're not as keen to resort to lynching anymore.

A few racist people calling a hijabi a towelhead does not compare in anyway to organised slaughter.

Oh you can certainly compare it, and you'll find genocide is worse, which is what part of this entire thread has been about.

Both are rooted in the same mentality. In the west people are trying to get rid of islam as well - it's just that in the west we have strict laws and morals that supersede religious doctrine. In places like the middle east, that's no so much the case I would assume. The root cause is the same and should be addressed, or religious - or rather, ideological - oppression just going to keep happening. Then again, that's no short-term solution, so evidently other actions are needed as well.

If you were assuming I'm joining in on the pissing contest of "who has it worse" then you're mistaken.

[Eglaecia]

Are you seriously trying to contest the idea that Christians were persecuted by the Romans

How the fuck could you conclude that from the posts you quoted?

"It says a lot that you can't actually remember the name of someone you claim massively persecuted your religion."

[An Alan Smithee Nation]

How the fuck could you conclude that from the posts you quoted?

"It says a lot that you can't actually remember the name of someone you claim massively persecuted your religion."

The good old days... of whatever his name was

[The South Falls]

Political correctness. Leading to genocide? What does this man want?

[Highever]

I feel like this thread is partly a rant about islamophobia stealing christophobia's thunder or something.

Lots of Christians get ganked in the Middle East because Islam is the reigning religion there and how they do things in the Middle East is not how they do things in Westernized nations. Pretty sure you've got enough people trying to get rid of "muslems" in places where other religions hold the belt, but they're not as keen to resort to lynching anymore.

A few racist people calling a hijabi a towelhead does not compare in anyway to organised slaughter.

Right because there is no such thing as organized slaughter or targeting of muslims. Clearly the most that muslims have to put up with is just mild racism.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_genocide
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_re-education_camps
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence_against_Muslims_in_India
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-balaka