2019 US Miscellaneous Election Thread

[Shrillland]

Mississippi will be going to the polls for Governor in a few months, and a lawsuit is challenging how they do it: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mississippi-has-racist-way-choosing-governors-lawsuit-says-n1011961

The lawsuit is challenging the requirement of both a majority of the popular vote and a majority of house districts, saying that the requirement is meant to favour whites.

In other election news...there are some races on Tuesday:

States: First, New Jersey's having their legislative primaries on Tuesday, so go vote if you're there.

Second, we have a couple of state Byelections in California, starting in SD-1(Redding-Inland North). No change here, both candidates are Republicans taking over a Republican who was elected to the Board of Equalisation(CA's elected property tax authority). Next, we have a two-party race in SD-33(Long Beach Central), a likely Democratic hold after the former incumbent was elected State Insurance Commissioner.

[San Lumen]

Mississippi will be going to the polls for Governor in a few months, and a lawsuit is challenging how they do it: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mississippi-has-racist-way-choosing-governors-lawsuit-says-n1011961

The lawsuit is challenging the requirement of both a majority of the popular vote and a majority of house districts, saying that the requirement is meant to favour whites.

In other election news...there are some races on Tuesday:

States: First, New Jersey's having their legislative primaries on Tuesday, so go vote if you're there.

Second, we have a couple of state Byelections in California, starting in SD-1(Redding-Inland North). No change here, both candidates are Republicans taking over a Republican who was elected to the Board of Equalisation(CA's elected property tax authority). Next, we have a two-party race in SD-33(Long Beach Central), a likely Democratic hold after the former incumbent was elected State Insurance Commissioner.

I’m glad the election rules in Mississippi for Governor are being challenged as it’s a clear violation of one man one vote.

I find it interesting the plaintiffs don’t suggest an alternative way of electing statewide offices . Why not just whoever gets the most votes wins? Amazing concept I know

[Aclion]

I’m glad the election rules in Mississippi for Governor are being challenged as it’s a clear violation of one man one vote.

I find it interesting the plaintiffs don’t suggest an alternative way of electing statewide offices . Why not just whoever gets the most votes wins? Amazing concept I know

One man one vote isn't constitutionally required, nor is it required for a democracy, nether the US congress, nor the presidential election, nor EU apportionment distribute voting power under the principle of one man one vote. So the supreme court is unlikely to accept that not doing so is a legal requirement for legitimate elections. Which is too bad. If we could get laws ruled unconstitutional because they were historically written to discriminate against black people we could get may issue and suitable person laws in gun licencing overturned tomorrow.

[San Lumen]

I’m glad the election rules in Mississippi for Governor are being challenged as it’s a clear violation of one man one vote.

I find it interesting the plaintiffs don’t suggest an alternative way of electing statewide offices . Why not just whoever gets the most votes wins? Amazing concept I know

One man one vote isn't constitutionally required, nor is it required for a democracy, nether the US congress, nor the presidential election, nor EU apportionment distribute voting power under the principle of one man one vote. So the supreme court is unlikely to accept that not doing so is a legal requirement for legitimate elections. Which is too bad. If we could get laws ruled unconstitutional because they were historically written to discriminate against black people we could get may issue and suitable person laws in gun licencing overturned tomorrow.

You think it’s fair for someone to get the most votes but not get elected because their opponent got the most land area?

[Arlenton]

One man one vote isn't constitutionally required, nor is it required for a democracy, nether the US congress, nor the presidential election, nor EU apportionment distribute voting power under the principle of one man one vote. So the supreme court is unlikely to accept that not doing so is a legal requirement for legitimate elections. Which is too bad. If we could get laws ruled unconstitutional because they were historically written to discriminate against black people we could get may issue and suitable person laws in gun licencing overturned tomorrow.

You think it’s fair for someone to get the most votes but not get elected because their opponent got the most land area?

By land area you mean states? Yeah.

[Shrillland]

You think it’s fair for someone to get the most votes but not get elected because their opponent got the most land area?

By land area you mean states? Yeah.

In this case, I think he just means the house districts.

[San Lumen]

By land area you mean states? Yeah.

In this case, I think he just means the house districts.

Yes the house districts in Mississippi. Its a completely unfair and undemocratic system.

[Galloism]

One man one vote isn't constitutionally required, nor is it required for a democracy, nether the US congress, nor the presidential election, nor EU apportionment distribute voting power under the principle of one man one vote. So the supreme court is unlikely to accept that not doing so is a legal requirement for legitimate elections. Which is too bad. If we could get laws ruled unconstitutional because they were historically written to discriminate against black people we could get may issue and suitable person laws in gun licencing overturned tomorrow.

You think it’s fair for someone to get the most votes but not get elected because their opponent got the most land area?

You didn’t read the post you responded to did you?

[San Lumen]

You think it’s fair for someone to get the most votes but not get elected because their opponent got the most land area?

You didn’t read the post you responded to did you?

we were talking about Mississippi. You think its fair for someone to get the most votes but not be elected because they didnt win the most house districts a nearly impossible feat for a Democrat to pull off these days. The rule in the state is a holdover from Jim Crow. It was designed to suppress black votes.

[Galloism]

You didn’t read the post you responded to did you?

we were talking about Mississippi. You think its fair for someone to get the most votes but not be elected because they didnt win the most house districts a nearly impossible feat for a Democrat to pull off these days. The rule in the state is a holdover from Jim Crow. It was designed to suppress black votes.

As I said - you didn’t read the post you responded to. Let me help by underlining and bolding a very critical sentence.

I’m glad the election rules in Mississippi for Governor are being challenged as it’s a clear violation of one man one vote.

I find it interesting the plaintiffs don’t suggest an alternative way of electing statewide offices . Why not just whoever gets the most votes wins? Amazing concept I know

One man one vote isn't constitutionally required, nor is it required for a democracy, nether the US congress, nor the presidential election, nor EU apportionment distribute voting power under the principle of one man one vote. So the supreme court is unlikely to accept that not doing so is a legal requirement for legitimate elections. Which is too bad. If we could get laws ruled unconstitutional because they were historically written to discriminate against black people we could get may issue and suitable person laws in gun licencing overturned tomorrow.

The poster in question is in favor of SCOTUS striking this methodology down, but you started arguing against him... for some reason.

[Arlenton]

Mississippi will be going to the polls for Governor in a few months, and a lawsuit is challenging how they do it: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mississippi-has-racist-way-choosing-governors-lawsuit-says-n1011961

The lawsuit is challenging the requirement of both a majority of the popular vote and a majority of house districts, saying that the requirement is meant to favour whites.

In other election news...there are some races on Tuesday:

States: First, New Jersey's having their legislative primaries on Tuesday, so go vote if you're there.

Second, we have a couple of state Byelections in California, starting in SD-1(Redding-Inland North). No change here, both candidates are Republicans taking over a Republican who was elected to the Board of Equalisation(CA's elected property tax authority). Next, we have a two-party race in SD-33(Long Beach Central), a likely Democratic hold after the former incumbent was elected State Insurance Commissioner.

Mississippi should elect local Mississippi officials however the hell Mississippi wants.

[Duhon]

Mississippi will be going to the polls for Governor in a few months, and a lawsuit is challenging how they do it: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/mississippi-has-racist-way-choosing-governors-lawsuit-says-n1011961

The lawsuit is challenging the requirement of both a majority of the popular vote and a majority of house districts, saying that the requirement is meant to favour whites.

In other election news...there are some races on Tuesday:

States: First, New Jersey's having their legislative primaries on Tuesday, so go vote if you're there.

Second, we have a couple of state Byelections in California, starting in SD-1(Redding-Inland North). No change here, both candidates are Republicans taking over a Republican who was elected to the Board of Equalisation(CA's elected property tax authority). Next, we have a two-party race in SD-33(Long Beach Central), a likely Democratic hold after the former incumbent was elected State Insurance Commissioner.

Mississippi should elect local Mississippi officials however the hell Mississippi wants.

That works till you hit an unconstitutional or at least un- or misrepresentative snag somewhere.

[Arlenton]

Mississippi should elect local Mississippi officials however the hell Mississippi wants.

That works till you hit an unconstitutional or at least un- or misrepresentative snag somewhere.

What is unconstitutional about this then?

[San Lumen]

That works till you hit an unconstitutional or at least un- or misrepresentative snag somewhere.

What is unconstitutional about this then?

Simple. It’s a holdover from Jim Crow. It was designed to suppress black votes

Secondly it makes land area matter more then votes and violates one man, one vote. A democrat is very unlikely to get a majority of state House districts

It would be like electing statewide officials in Nevada by how many counties they win. A democrat would never get elected.

[Nakena]

That works till you hit an unconstitutional or at least un- or misrepresentative snag somewhere.

What is unconstitutional about this then?

Given that they have in theory still the one from 1890, and given the intentions of its writers are clearly stated.

[...] Let's tell the truth if it bursts the bottom of the Universe. [...] We came here to exclude the Negro. Nothing short of this will answer.
— Solomon Saladin "S.S." Calhoon, Mississippi Constitutional Convention of 1890, (emphasis added).[16][7][32][3][4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitut ... convention

See also the Governor statements on the 1890 convention here, that their provisions weren't about state rights but rather about something else:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_K._Vardaman#Career

This leaves not even an quantum of doubt of what their objectives were.

[Shrillland]

Another state enters the plaza with two entries from Louisiana. Technically, these are for October 12, and if you remember from '18, I don't usually put them in the GE Plaza, but Louisiana's electoral system being as unique as it is, they get an exemption from that rule.

The first proposal would amend the constitution to allow New Orleans to grant partial or full property tax exemptions on properties with 15 housing units or less, or impose tax freezes on those properties with values kept at what they were a year before the exemption went into effect. Don't know if this one will pass at the moment, they're claiming it'll improve the city's housing situation.

Proposal number two amends the constitution to exempt goods and properties from being taxed if those goods are being stored in warehouses and are headed for the Outer Continental Shelf(i.e., the oil rigs). This one I can easily see passing.

[Shrillland]

Another addition for Louisiana today.

This proposal would amend the constitution to allow the Legislature, by a 2/3 vote, to extend the authority of the State Board of Tax Appeals to consider the constitutionality of taxes, fees, or things in its jurisdiction. Currently, the board has the authority to settle disputes over taxes and set guidelines for the state, but they can't say they are constitutional or not. I think this will pass.

[San Lumen]

In elections yesterday Denver mayor Michael Hancock won a third and final term with about 55 percent of the vote.

In CA SD-33 Lena Gonzalez easily held this Long Beach based seat for the Democrats replacing the incumbent who was elected Insurance Commissioner

in CA SD-1 Republican St Rep Brian Dahle replaced the incumbent who was elected to the Board of Equalization.

Next up on Saturday are competitive mayoral elections in Dallas and San Antonio

And Tuesday is state legislative primaries in Virginia. There is a possibly they could be postponed due to a ruling from the Supreme Court on gerrymandering

There is also a by election in Maine HD-45. The district is located near the town of Yarmouth in Cumberland county and should be a Democratic hold. The election is being held due to the incumbents resignation due to lung cancer. He passed about a month later.

[Shrillland]

Another amendment from Louisiana:

Amendment number four would allow the Education Excellence Fund to appropriate $75,000 per year to the Louisiana Educational Television Authority(the authority responsible for Louisiana's PBS stations outside of New Orleans) and add the Thrive Academy(a charter school in Baton Rouge) and the state's laboratory schools(college-run schools specifically meant to teach future teachers, educators, and researchers) to the list of schools that receive annual payments.

[San Lumen]

In yesterday’s municipal elections incumbent San Antonio mayor Ron Nirenburg won a second term 51/49. In a interesting twist the de facto Republican candidate for mayor's seat on the city council flipped increasing the the Democrats majority on the city council. most municipal election in Texas are non partisan by law.

In Dallas state representative Eric Johnson was elected mayor with 55 percent of the cast ballots. He will be the second African American mayor of Dallas.

On Tuesday we have primaries in Virginia for the state legislature. Democrats have a very good chance of taking both the House of Delegates and the State Senate in November

There is also a by election for ME HD-45. Its located in Cumberland County between Yarmouth and Portland. it should be a easy Democrat hold. The incumbent passed tragically from cancer earlier this year.

[Major-Tom]

Always nice to see Lumen/Shrilland and others posting about elections I otherwise would be unaware of. Good work.

I will say that I've heard from Coloradans that Hancock has become a controversial mayor, so the Denver race was the only mayoral race I was paying attention to. Not too surprised he won, but I thought there was a chance for an upset.

[San Lumen]

Always nice to see Lumen/Shrilland and others posting about elections I otherwise would be unaware of. Good work.

I will say that I've heard from Coloradans that Hancock has become a controversial mayor, so the Denver race was the only mayoral race I was paying attention to. Not too surprised he won, but I thought there was a chance for an upset.

local elections are very important and have more of a impact on ones day to day than who the Governor or President is.

I wish more people voted in them

[San Lumen]

Democrats held the by election in ME-HD45 by a wide margin which was widely expected given its in Cumberland County a democratic stronghold

The Virginia Primaries went largely as expected though there were a few upsets including a Democratic state senator in SD-16 losing their primary to former state legislator and convicted felon. The district contains Petersburg and part of Richmond so he's near certainty to return to the state capitol.

There also was an upset of the incumbent in the GOP primary for HD-28 a competitive district based around Fredericksburg. The incumbent Bob Thomas only won by 82 votes in 2017 and the new nominee Paul Milde III has been labeled as extreme and will have a very difficult time holding this district in November.

All 100 seats in the Virginia House of Delegates and all 40 seats in the State Senate are up for election in November. a gain of two seats in either chamber would flip control to the Democrats and they are favored do to so especially with the court order that redrew several districts for racial discrimination including that of the Speaker.

Next week we have two by elections in Florida HD-7 which is south of Tallahassee and HD-38 a rural district northeast of Tampa Both will likely stay Republican as they are very red districts

Kansas City, Missouri will be holding its mayoral and city council elections. City Council members Quinton Lucas and Jolie Justus will be vying for the Mayor's Office.

[Shrillland]

Democrats held the by election in ME-HD45 by a wide margin which was widely expected given its in Cumberland County a democratic stronghold

The Virginia Primaries went largely as expected though there were a few upsets including a Democratic state senator in SD-16 losing their primary to former state legislator and convicted felon. The district contains Petersburg and part of Richmond so he's near certainty to return to the state capitol.

There also was an upset of the incumbent in the GOP primary for HD-28 a competitive district based around Fredericksburg. The incumbent Bob Thomas narrowly won in 2017 and the new nominee Paul Milde III has been labeled as extreme and will have a difficult time holding this district in November.

All 100 seats in the Virginia House of Delegates and all 40 seats in the State Senate are up for election in November. a gain of two seats in either chamber would flip control to the Democrats and they are favored do to so especially with the court order that redrew several districts for racial discrimination including that of the Speaker.

Next week we have two by elections in Florida HD-7 which is south of Tallahassee and HD-38 a rural district northeast of Tampa Both will likely stay Republican as they are very red districts

Kansas City, Missouri will be holding its mayoral and city council elections. City Council members Quinton Lucas and Jolie Justus will be vying for the Mayor's Office.

I'm not sure about that, myself. His misdemeanour conviction was because he had a relationship with a 17 year-old girl and was in his late 30s at the time. This isn't the 80s where they'd just shrug it off like they did with Gerry Stubbs in Massachusetts. This isn't even 2015 when Morrissey won the byelection as an independent, this is the age of Me Too, and voters may be less forgiving now.

[San Lumen]

Democrats held the by election in ME-HD45 by a wide margin which was widely expected given its in Cumberland County a democratic stronghold

The Virginia Primaries went largely as expected though there were a few upsets including a Democratic state senator in SD-16 losing their primary to former state legislator and convicted felon. The district contains Petersburg and part of Richmond so he's near certainty to return to the state capitol.

There also was an upset of the incumbent in the GOP primary for HD-28 a competitive district based around Fredericksburg. The incumbent Bob Thomas narrowly won in 2017 and the new nominee Paul Milde III has been labeled as extreme and will have a difficult time holding this district in November.

All 100 seats in the Virginia House of Delegates and all 40 seats in the State Senate are up for election in November. a gain of two seats in either chamber would flip control to the Democrats and they are favored do to so especially with the court order that redrew several districts for racial discrimination including that of the Speaker.

Next week we have two by elections in Florida HD-7 which is south of Tallahassee and HD-38 a rural district northeast of Tampa Both will likely stay Republican as they are very red districts

Kansas City, Missouri will be holding its mayoral and city council elections. City Council members Quinton Lucas and Jolie Justus will be vying for the Mayor's Office.

I'm not sure about that, myself. His misdemeanour conviction was because he had a relationship with a 17 year-old girl and was in his late 30s at the time. This isn't the 80s where they'd just shrug it off like they did with Gerry Stubbs in Massachusetts. This isn't even 2015 when Morrissey won the byelection as an independent, this is the age of Me Too, and voters may be less forgiving now.

oh my. Oh my my my. * Says in George Takai's voice.

Morrissey is unopposed in November unless there is a way get someone else on the ballot or there is a large write in campaign .

I heard the incumbent did not take him seriously and largely ignored him. Very reminiscent of what happened last year in NYC with Congressman Joe Crowley.