Chan Island wrote:Cekoviu wrote:Playing devil's advocate here, though I don't like Trump - as far as I know, this policy was not instituted by Trump or his administration. It was already present.
Yeah, that one is a huge issue.
1) That's just not true though. The entire narrative that Obama instituted the policy is entirely a fabrication. We know this on the surface because it wasn't done under him, and not done under Trump for the first several months of his term, but also because the Trump administration initially boasted it was their idea... for a few days until they realised how incredibly unpopular the policy was. And that is when they started talking about it being an Obama policy. Which was blatantly untrue.
But Trump lies all the time, so nothing new. And nothing new for presidents either, which why I didn't mention it (even though I would rank his undermining of the very idea of an objective truth to be one of his worst sins).
2) It's so depressing how little we talk about it to be honest. It's so repulsive, so evil, and so universally unpopular... yet, rarely does somebody in the media talk about it. And it's really special because while past presidents sold weapons to bad people, they tended to do so secretly (and caused a scandal when caught). And had the excuse of the global struggle of the cold war. And at least had Congress onboard with the plan. Trump doesn't have any of those excuses, yet he did it anyway. Makes you sick.
Obama didn't institute the policy, but the pictures used online of the children in 'cages' are from the Obama era.
The entire idea that they're being made to do fuck all aside from being taken care of is nonsensical. Did the rate increase under the zero tolerance policy? Yes.