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Which Book on Leftist Ideology is Your Preferred Book?

The Communist Manifesto (Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels)
17
17%
The Conquest of Bread (Peter Kropotkin)
20
20%
Das Kapital (Karl Marx)
17
17%
What is Property? (Pierre-Joseph Proudhon)
2
2%
Guerilla Warfare (Che Guevara)
6
6%
Mutual Aid (Peter Kropotkin)
2
2%
Profit Over People (Noam Chomsky)
3
3%
The Ego and Its Own (Max Stirner)
7
7%
Debt: The First 5,000 Years (David Graeber)
3
3%
Other (Please Explain)
22
22%
 
Total votes : 99

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West Leas Oros 2
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Fri May 17, 2019 12:01 pm

Liriena wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:Buzzfeed editor gives a crash course on why the triple parentheses became a thing, putting out a tweet saying his tweet about how people should kill white men was a joke and anyway he's white while pulling a "Hello fellow white people" shapeshifting Jew thing where he talks about white privilege and shared experience, need to reflect and so on, immediately shut down with people quoting him saying that as a Jew he doesn't have white privilege and isn't white.

Just saying.
It has its place in very specific circumstances, same as, "Hello fellow white people".

I wish the workers of Buzzfeed News would just seize the whole thing and turn it into a nice co-op that does nothing but journalism.

Seize the Means of Shitty News Production!
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New yugoslavaia
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby New yugoslavaia » Fri May 17, 2019 12:07 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:Hey, what do you guys thing of people saying the left can't meme?

The left can meme they are a meme


Cultural Marxism is a meme.
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How the hell did this happen?
Well, this happened because after a failed attempt at a corporatocracy, Serbia was left with a pseudo-nationalist government which was incompetent to say the least. Following a revolution, a slightly authoritarian social democracy was established. More nations were incorporated as time went on. Now it's slightly-self sustaining and technologic advanced.

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West Leas Oros 2
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Fri May 17, 2019 12:23 pm

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:The left can meme they are a meme


Cultural Marxism is a meme.

I'm pretty sure the people mad about cultural marxism blame toe stubs on it.

*stubs toe*
DAMN CULTURAL MARXISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Fri May 17, 2019 12:24 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:
Cultural Marxism is a meme.

I'm pretty sure the people mad about cultural marxism blame toe stubs on it.

*stubs toe*
DAMN CULTURAL MARXISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Postby Hammer Britannia » Fri May 17, 2019 12:39 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:I'm pretty sure the people mad about cultural marxism blame toe stubs on it.

*stubs toe*
DAMN CULTURAL MARXISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Strawnman

You're one to speak >_>
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Fri May 17, 2019 12:42 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:I'm pretty sure the people mad about cultural marxism blame toe stubs on it.

*stubs toe*
DAMN CULTURAL MARXISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Strawnman

Your type literally blames everything on cultural marxism, you know. You nazis need a better excuse. "cultural marxism" is as tired a response as it is stupid.
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North German Realm
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Postby North German Realm » Fri May 17, 2019 12:47 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:I'm pretty sure the people mad about cultural marxism blame toe stubs on it.

*stubs toe*
DAMN CULTURAL MARXISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Strawnman

Bold, coming from you of all people.
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri May 17, 2019 12:56 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:Hey, what do you guys thing of people saying the left can't meme?

The left can meme they are a meme

The foundation of Trumpism is literally based around memes, so I'm not sure you get to criticize us for that.
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New yugoslavaia
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Postby New yugoslavaia » Fri May 17, 2019 1:16 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:The left can meme they are a meme

The foundation of Trumpism is literally based around memes, so I'm not sure you get to criticize us for that.


What if politics in general are a meme?
Yugoslavia's back baby...

How the hell did this happen?
Well, this happened because after a failed attempt at a corporatocracy, Serbia was left with a pseudo-nationalist government which was incompetent to say the least. Following a revolution, a slightly authoritarian social democracy was established. More nations were incorporated as time went on. Now it's slightly-self sustaining and technologic advanced.

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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Fri May 17, 2019 1:18 pm

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:The foundation of Trumpism is literally based around memes, so I'm not sure you get to criticize us for that.


What if politics in general are a meme?

I mean, if we use the "classical" definition of memes, then memes are a part of politics, yes.
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Postby Rostavykhan » Fri May 17, 2019 1:24 pm

New yugoslavaia wrote:Hey, what do you guys thing of people saying the left can't meme?


Libs can't meme.

/leftypol/ is pretty dank tho

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West Leas Oros 2
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Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Fri May 17, 2019 1:25 pm

Rostavykhan wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:Hey, what do you guys thing of people saying the left can't meme?


Libs can't meme.

/leftypol/ is pretty dank tho

braise Stalin :333

I'm no Stalinite, but I agree with these statements. /leftypol/ is great, libs are shit.
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Postby Cekoviu » Fri May 17, 2019 2:12 pm

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:The foundation of Trumpism is literally based around memes, so I'm not sure you get to criticize us for that.


What if politics in general are a meme?

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Rostavykhan wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:Hey, what do you guys thing of people saying the left can't meme?


Libs can't meme.

/leftypol/ is pretty dank tho

braise Stalin :333

The idea that liberals can't meme is itself a silly meme. The taco trucks will not be serving you, Rostavykhan.
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Postby First American Empire » Fri May 17, 2019 7:05 pm

Rostavykhan wrote:braise Stalin :333


Cook Stalin by browning his corpse in fat, then simmering it in a small quantity of liquid in a covered container.
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Liriena
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Liriena » Fri May 17, 2019 8:00 pm

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:The left can meme they are a meme


Cultural Marxism is a meme.

And an extremely old one at that, born in the simmering, pungent depths of American conservative intelligentsia as a 100% self-serious argument against any sort of social progress on the basis that some Jewish intellectuals from the 30s and 40s kinda thought post-Enlightenment culture was a horrible breeding ground for fascism.
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Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
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Postby Hanafuridake » Fri May 17, 2019 8:08 pm

When people praise Stalin, I don't think they realize that would have absolutely no impact on them being sent to the gulags. He didn't play favorites when it came to torturing people, just ask his relatives.
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Liriena
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Liriena » Fri May 17, 2019 8:26 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:When people praise Stalin, I don't think they realize that would have absolutely no impact on them being sent to the gulags. He didn't play favorites when it came to torturing people, just ask his relatives.

tfw you're the good boy Molotov, the most loyal of loyal Stalinists, and you still get your wife taken away
be gay do crime


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A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist
An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism


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if you passed biology and know
gender and sex aren't the same thing.⚧

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Duhon
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Postby Duhon » Fri May 17, 2019 8:30 pm

Hanafuridake wrote:When people praise Stalin, I don't think they realize that would have absolutely no impact on them being sent to the gulags. He didn't play favorites when it came to torturing people, just ask his relatives.


It is only by being dead that you become completely loyal to the authoritarian.

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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Fri May 17, 2019 10:30 pm

Duhon wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:When people praise Stalin, I don't think they realize that would have absolutely no impact on them being sent to the gulags. He didn't play favorites when it came to torturing people, just ask his relatives.


It is only by being dead that you become completely loyal to the authoritarian.

Not true, for in death you become a martyr for seditious groups to rally around. Only when your memory is eradicated from the populace, and all records of you expunged, does one truly become loyal to the State.
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Anarchy

Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Fri May 17, 2019 11:45 pm

Rostavykhan wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:Hey, what do you guys thing of people saying the left can't meme?


Libs can't meme.

/leftypol/ is pretty dank tho

braise Stalin :333

Must resist bait.

Edit: I can't resist the bait because if I did I would get warned for trollnaming, I'm going to have to take the bait. /leftypol/ is not dank, they banned me immediately after my post claiming that Stalin and Hitler were equally bad. Also, Stalin should not be praised, he was a corrupt, bloodthirsty dictator. Authoritarianism is bad.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sat May 18, 2019 12:50 am

Liriena wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:Buzzfeed editor gives a crash course on why the triple parentheses became a thing, putting out a tweet saying his tweet about how people should kill white men was a joke and anyway he's white while pulling a "Hello fellow white people" shapeshifting Jew thing where he talks about white privilege and shared experience, need to reflect and so on, immediately shut down with people quoting him saying that as a Jew he doesn't have white privilege and isn't white.

Just saying.
It has its place in very specific circumstances, same as, "Hello fellow white people".

I wish the workers of Buzzfeed News would just seize the whole thing and turn it into a nice co-op that does nothing but journalism.

>buzzfeed
>journalism

That's like switching Volkswagen to sausage production.
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Ex-Nation

Postby Epicurustan » Sat May 18, 2019 2:23 am

Rojava got some good chances but they got to industrialize imho.
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Postby Communal concils » Sat May 18, 2019 5:44 am

Does anyone hope that Rojava gets reconquered by Syria.
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Postby Petrolheadia » Sat May 18, 2019 6:17 am

Epicurustan wrote:Rojava got some good chances but they got to industrialize imho.

What if they had a system in which they could get something in return for the product (no idea for name yet), and if enough customers give that, the good factories can take it and improve the product, and maybe even take over the bad ones and switch them to making the good product?
Capitalism, single-payer healthcare, pro-choice, LGBT rights, progressive personal taxation, low corporate tax, pro-business law, welfare for those in need.
Communism, socialism, Nazism, edgism, dogmatic statements, multiculturalism, most of Abrahamic-derived morality (esp. as law), welfare for those not in need.
We are not Albania and I am not Albanian, FFS!
Male, gearhead, classic rock fan, gamer, agnostic, centre-libertarian.
Where you can talk about cars!
"They're always saying I'm a Capitalist pig. I suppose I am, but, ah...it ah...it's good for my drumming, I think." - Keith Moon,
If a Porsche owner treats it like a bicycle, he's a gentleman. And if he prays to it, he's simply a moron. - Jan Nowicki.

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Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Sat May 18, 2019 7:14 am

Communal concils wrote:Does anyone hope that Rojava gets reconquered by Syria.

Yes- I hate rojava.
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