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Which Book on Leftist Ideology is Your Preferred Book?

The Communist Manifesto (Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels)
23
18%
The Conquest of Bread (Peter Kropotkin)
24
19%
Das Kapital (Karl Marx)
21
16%
What is Property? (Pierre-Joseph Proudhon)
2
2%
Guerilla Warfare (Che Guevara)
8
6%
Mutual Aid (Peter Kropotkin)
2
2%
Profit Over People (Noam Chomsky)
4
3%
The Ego and Its Own (Max Stirner)
8
6%
Debt: The First 5,000 Years (David Graeber)
5
4%
Other (Please Explain)
32
25%
 
Total votes : 129

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Liriena
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 59873
Founded: Nov 19, 2010
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Liriena » Fri May 17, 2019 10:14 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Liriena wrote:It's pure projection.


The right has a meme as president.

We have Gritty.
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Epicurustan
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Posts: 33
Founded: May 17, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Epicurustan » Fri May 17, 2019 10:15 am

New yugoslavaia wrote:Hey, what do you guys thing of people saying the left can't meme?

It´s a good meme
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Evil Dictators Happyland
Senator
 
Posts: 3514
Founded: Aug 03, 2016
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Evil Dictators Happyland » Fri May 17, 2019 10:18 am

New yugoslavaia wrote:Hey, what do you guys thing of people saying the left can't meme?

They just haven't seen good leftist memes yet. I used to think the same thing, and I'm left-wing. That was before I discovered things like Stonetoss edits and Tumblr's meme culture.
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Liriena
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 59873
Founded: Nov 19, 2010
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Liriena » Fri May 17, 2019 10:34 am

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:Hey, what do you guys thing of people saying the left can't meme?

They just haven't seen good leftist memes yet. I used to think the same thing, and I'm left-wing. That was before I discovered things like Stonetoss edits and Tumblr's meme culture.

And left Twitter. Don't forget left Twitter.
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I am:
A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist
An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism


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First American Empire
Diplomat
 
Posts: 809
Founded: Mar 12, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby First American Empire » Fri May 17, 2019 10:36 am

Liriena wrote:
Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:They just haven't seen good leftist memes yet. I used to think the same thing, and I'm left-wing. That was before I discovered things like Stonetoss edits and Tumblr's meme culture.

And left Twitter. Don't forget left Twitter.


Or LGBT Reddit.
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The Xenopolis Confederation
Powerbroker
 
Posts: 8228
Founded: Aug 11, 2017
Anarchy

Postby The Xenopolis Confederation » Fri May 17, 2019 10:41 am

First American Empire wrote:
Liriena wrote:And left Twitter. Don't forget left Twitter.


Or LGBT Reddit.

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Hammer Britannia
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5342
Founded: Oct 08, 2016
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Hammer Britannia » Fri May 17, 2019 10:42 am

First American Empire wrote:
Liriena wrote:And left Twitter. Don't forget left Twitter.


Or LGBT Reddit.

Reddit having good memes is a meme within itself
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Liriena
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 59873
Founded: Nov 19, 2010
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Liriena » Fri May 17, 2019 10:55 am

First American Empire wrote:
Liriena wrote:And left Twitter. Don't forget left Twitter.


Or LGBT Reddit.

gay_irl
be gay do crime


I am:
A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist
An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism


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Communist Zombie Horde
Diplomat
 
Posts: 944
Founded: Jan 04, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Fri May 17, 2019 11:41 am

New yugoslavaia wrote:Hey, what do you guys thing of people saying the left can't meme?

The left can meme they are a meme
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West Leas Oros 2
Senator
 
Posts: 4294
Founded: Jul 15, 2018
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Fri May 17, 2019 12:01 pm

Liriena wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:Buzzfeed editor gives a crash course on why the triple parentheses became a thing, putting out a tweet saying his tweet about how people should kill white men was a joke and anyway he's white while pulling a "Hello fellow white people" shapeshifting Jew thing where he talks about white privilege and shared experience, need to reflect and so on, immediately shut down with people quoting him saying that as a Jew he doesn't have white privilege and isn't white.

Just saying.
It has its place in very specific circumstances, same as, "Hello fellow white people".

I wish the workers of Buzzfeed News would just seize the whole thing and turn it into a nice co-op that does nothing but journalism.

Seize the Means of Shitty News Production!
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New yugoslavaia
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Posts: 1115
Founded: Jun 07, 2018
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby New yugoslavaia » Fri May 17, 2019 12:07 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:Hey, what do you guys thing of people saying the left can't meme?

The left can meme they are a meme


Cultural Marxism is a meme.
Yugoslavia's back baby...

How the hell did this happen?
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West Leas Oros 2
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Posts: 4294
Founded: Jul 15, 2018
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Fri May 17, 2019 12:23 pm

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:The left can meme they are a meme


Cultural Marxism is a meme.

I'm pretty sure the people mad about cultural marxism blame toe stubs on it.

*stubs toe*
DAMN CULTURAL MARXISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Communist Zombie Horde
Diplomat
 
Posts: 944
Founded: Jan 04, 2018
Ex-Nation

Postby Communist Zombie Horde » Fri May 17, 2019 12:24 pm

West Leas Oros 2 wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:
Cultural Marxism is a meme.

I'm pretty sure the people mad about cultural marxism blame toe stubs on it.

*stubs toe*
DAMN CULTURAL MARXISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Hammer Britannia
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5342
Founded: Oct 08, 2016
Iron Fist Consumerists

Postby Hammer Britannia » Fri May 17, 2019 12:39 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:I'm pretty sure the people mad about cultural marxism blame toe stubs on it.

*stubs toe*
DAMN CULTURAL MARXISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Strawnman

You're one to speak >_>
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West Leas Oros 2
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Posts: 4294
Founded: Jul 15, 2018
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Fri May 17, 2019 12:42 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:I'm pretty sure the people mad about cultural marxism blame toe stubs on it.

*stubs toe*
DAMN CULTURAL MARXISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Strawnman

Your type literally blames everything on cultural marxism, you know. You nazis need a better excuse. "cultural marxism" is as tired a response as it is stupid.
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North German Realm
Senator
 
Posts: 4377
Founded: Jan 27, 2019
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby North German Realm » Fri May 17, 2019 12:47 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
West Leas Oros 2 wrote:I'm pretty sure the people mad about cultural marxism blame toe stubs on it.

*stubs toe*
DAMN CULTURAL MARXISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Strawnman

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Cekoviu
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16254
Founded: Oct 18, 2017
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Cekoviu » Fri May 17, 2019 12:56 pm

Communist Zombie Horde wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:Hey, what do you guys thing of people saying the left can't meme?

The left can meme they are a meme

The foundation of Trumpism is literally based around memes, so I'm not sure you get to criticize us for that.
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New yugoslavaia
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Founded: Jun 07, 2018
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby New yugoslavaia » Fri May 17, 2019 1:16 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:The left can meme they are a meme

The foundation of Trumpism is literally based around memes, so I'm not sure you get to criticize us for that.


What if politics in general are a meme?
Yugoslavia's back baby...

How the hell did this happen?
Well, this happened because after a failed attempt at a corporatocracy, Serbia was left with a pseudo-nationalist government which was incompetent to say the least. Following a revolution, a slightly authoritarian social democracy was established. More nations were incorporated as time went on. Now it's slightly-self sustaining and technologic advanced.

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West Leas Oros 2
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Posts: 4294
Founded: Jul 15, 2018
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Fri May 17, 2019 1:18 pm

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:The foundation of Trumpism is literally based around memes, so I'm not sure you get to criticize us for that.


What if politics in general are a meme?

I mean, if we use the "classical" definition of memes, then memes are a part of politics, yes.
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Rostavykhan
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Founded: Sep 30, 2017
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Rostavykhan » Fri May 17, 2019 1:24 pm

New yugoslavaia wrote:Hey, what do you guys thing of people saying the left can't meme?


Libs can't meme.

/leftypol/ is pretty dank tho

braise Stalin :333
 

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West Leas Oros 2
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Founded: Jul 15, 2018
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby West Leas Oros 2 » Fri May 17, 2019 1:25 pm

Rostavykhan wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:Hey, what do you guys thing of people saying the left can't meme?


Libs can't meme.

/leftypol/ is pretty dank tho

braise Stalin :333

I'm no Stalinite, but I agree with these statements. /leftypol/ is great, libs are shit.
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Cekoviu
Post Marshal
 
Posts: 16254
Founded: Oct 18, 2017
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Cekoviu » Fri May 17, 2019 2:12 pm

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Cekoviu wrote:The foundation of Trumpism is literally based around memes, so I'm not sure you get to criticize us for that.


What if politics in general are a meme?

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Rostavykhan wrote:
New yugoslavaia wrote:Hey, what do you guys thing of people saying the left can't meme?


Libs can't meme.

/leftypol/ is pretty dank tho

braise Stalin :333

The idea that liberals can't meme is itself a silly meme. The taco trucks will not be serving you, Rostavykhan.
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First American Empire
Diplomat
 
Posts: 809
Founded: Mar 12, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby First American Empire » Fri May 17, 2019 7:05 pm

Rostavykhan wrote:braise Stalin :333


Cook Stalin by browning his corpse in fat, then simmering it in a small quantity of liquid in a covered container.
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This nation doesn't reflect my political views on many issues, especially monarchism and foreign policy. I'm an ordinary social democrat in real life.

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Liriena
Khan of Spam
 
Posts: 59873
Founded: Nov 19, 2010
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Liriena » Fri May 17, 2019 8:00 pm

New yugoslavaia wrote:
Communist Zombie Horde wrote:The left can meme they are a meme


Cultural Marxism is a meme.

And an extremely old one at that, born in the simmering, pungent depths of American conservative intelligentsia as a 100% self-serious argument against any sort of social progress on the basis that some Jewish intellectuals from the 30s and 40s kinda thought post-Enlightenment culture was a horrible breeding ground for fascism.
be gay do crime


I am:
A pansexual, pantheist, green socialist
An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
cynicism


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Hanafuridake
Negotiator
 
Posts: 5501
Founded: Sep 09, 2018
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Hanafuridake » Fri May 17, 2019 8:08 pm

When people praise Stalin, I don't think they realize that would have absolutely no impact on them being sent to the gulags. He didn't play favorites when it came to torturing people, just ask his relatives.
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