2019-2020 US Elections Megathread I- It Begins

[Telconi]

Democrats rank higher than Republicans on the list yet you continue shilling for the GOP. Just confirms your disingenuousness.

That's what being a single-issue voter does, unfortunately.

Having values can be a bitch, yes.

[Gormwood]

Democrats rank higher than Republicans on the list yet you continue shilling for the GOP. Just confirms your disingenuousness.

Or the failures of the test.

Just like Trump you blame everyone but yourself.

[Telconi]

That's what being a single-issue voter does, unfortunately.

Would you say the same about people who vote solely to protect LGBT rights or abortion access?

B-But we can't stop the stoning of the gays because it might damage the economeeeee!!!

[Senkaku]

That's what being a single-issue voter does, unfortunately.

Having values can be a bitch, yes.

Value, singular

That's what being a single-issue voter does, unfortunately.

Would you say the same about people who vote solely to protect LGBT rights or abortion access?

Probably, but I'd be a little more understanding, since the arguments about LGBT and abortion rights are, ya know, about protecting people rather than inanimate objects

Anyways, can we conclude pt. 10,273,273,484,152,494,070,142,189,153 of "everyone is tired of Tel badly pretending he's some kind of moderate or liberal or whatever and being mad when challenged about it" because it's just so tiresome and Tel really is not interesting enough to merit this much conversation

[Telconi]

Having values can be a bitch, yes.

Value, singular

Would you say the same about people who vote solely to protect LGBT rights or abortion access?

Probably, but I'd be a little more understanding, since the arguments about LGBT and abortion rights are, ya know, about protecting people rather than inanimate objects

Anyways, can we conclude pt. 10,273,273,484,152,494,070,142,189,153 of "everyone is tired of Tel badly pretending he's some kind of moderate or liberal or whatever and being mad when challenged about it" because it's just so tiresome and Tel really is not interesting enough to merit this much conversation

Abortion clinics are people? Marriage certificates are people? Holy shit, and I thought "corporations are people" was a doozie...

[Senkaku]

I took the "I Side With" thing and interestingly it told me I was closest to Klobuchar? I expect because I tend towards interventionism or whatever on the foreign policy side, which is more stereotypically a "moderate" Democrat thing, but it was interesting, maybe I'll look at her website later

stuff

not even worth my time, pls come up w some better OC

[Shrillland]

In "Long shots that make a Yang Presidency look attainable" news, Wayne Messam is proposing a way to cancel all student debt: https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/student-debt-cancel-wayne-messam-124020955.html

[Cannot think of a name]

In "Long shots that make a Yang Presidency look attainable" news, Wayne Messam is proposing a way to cancel all student debt: https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/student-debt-cancel-wayne-messam-124020955.html

I mean, I'm kinda into it and he isn't wrong, crippling debt does slow shit down. And personally this would work out great for me. But my buddy who drove a shit box Honda despite having a good job so he could pay off not one set of student loans, but a second set when he went back to get an entirely different degree is going to feel a little shafted. Well, not him specifically, he's a giant (literally, 6'8") hippie who hates money and everything associated with it...but let's say someone like him who diligently paid off their bullshit loans are gonna feel like all day suckers when I'm basically the same as them. Not really sure what how to deal with that.

[Bienenhalde]

That's what being a single-issue voter does, unfortunately.

Would you say the same about people who vote solely to protect LGBT rights or abortion access?

Abortions and guns both kill people and ought to be strictly regulated, when they are allowed at all.

[Kowani]

And Here's our 2020 campaign launch!

Thank you all, for giving me such support. I'll continue to ask you for support when I need it, and am proud to have spent my formative years on NS, it has been my primary social life. But now it's time to evolve past that. I am a very flawed person with many mistakes. I want to rise above them, and take responsibility for all my past mistakes.

I'm still staying on the site and will be on it as much as usual, though!

I'm just thankful I got to meet all of you.

We know where you liiiive.... But in all seriousness, good luck!

[Valrifell]

In "Long shots that make a Yang Presidency look attainable" news, Wayne Messam is proposing a way to cancel all student debt: https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/student-debt-cancel-wayne-messam-124020955.html

So the thing is student debt is usually considered "safe" as far as investing in debt goes (or however that works) so wiping it off will trigger a pretty dramatic economic collapse.

[Cannot think of a name]

In "Long shots that make a Yang Presidency look attainable" news, Wayne Messam is proposing a way to cancel all student debt: https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/student-debt-cancel-wayne-messam-124020955.html

So the thing is student debt is usually considered "safe" as far as investing in debt goes (or however that works) so wiping it off will trigger a pretty dramatic economic collapse.

Well, that's the other side of it, as they're federally guaranteed debt if we wipe it out...doesn't that mean we have to make lenders whole in the process, sort of in the same way they're made whole when we default? It's a tricky proposition.

[G-Tech Corporation]

So the thing is student debt is usually considered "safe" as far as investing in debt goes (or however that works) so wiping it off will trigger a pretty dramatic economic collapse.

Well, that's the other side of it, as they're federally guaranteed debt if we wipe it out...doesn't that mean we have to make lenders whole in the process, sort of in the same way they're made whole when we default? It's a tricky proposition.

Yeah, almost certainly. Though, hell, just some more national debt eh?

[Zurkerx]

In "Long shots that make a Yang Presidency look attainable" news, Wayne Messam is proposing a way to cancel all student debt: https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/student-debt-cancel-wayne-messam-124020955.html

That's a lot of money to forgive, and probably a bad idea given that has economic consequences.

[Cannot think of a name]

Well, that's the other side of it, as they're federally guaranteed debt if we wipe it out...doesn't that mean we have to make lenders whole in the process, sort of in the same way they're made whole when we default? It's a tricky proposition.

Yeah, almost certainly. Though, hell, just some more national debt eh?

Could possibly be offset by increased economic activity from people no longer crippled by that debt and the sudden influx in capital to lending institutions would free them up for investing in other financial products etc. The esoterics of spending and economic growth are generally a hard sell though.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Well, that's the other side of it, as they're federally guaranteed debt if we wipe it out...doesn't that mean we have to make lenders whole in the process, sort of in the same way they're made whole when we default? It's a tricky proposition.

Yeah, almost certainly. Though, hell, just some more national debt eh?

>solving debt with debt

Is this peak American capitalism?

[The South Falls]

Well, that's the other side of it, as they're federally guaranteed debt if we wipe it out...doesn't that mean we have to make lenders whole in the process, sort of in the same way they're made whole when we default? It's a tricky proposition.

Yeah, almost certainly. Though, hell, just some more national debt eh?

that'll never be paid, that's it

[Orostan]

Bernie Sanders is a millionaire now.

Lotharnews has got EXCLUSIVE info on what he said after he realized it:

"Oh my God....I'M the one percent!"

Bernie's a millionaire because of books, mostly.

[Senkaku]

Yeah, almost certainly. Though, hell, just some more national debt eh?

>solving debt with debt

Is this peak American capitalism?

it's debt all the way down

[The South Falls]

>solving debt with debt

Is this peak American capitalism?

it's debt all the way down

just turtles and debt

[Senkaku]

it's debt all the way down

just turtles and debt

elephants, actually

[Cannot think of a name]

Bernie Sanders is a millionaire now.

Lotharnews has got EXCLUSIVE info on what he said after he realized it:

"Oh my God....I'M the one percent!"

The whole "oh no, Sanders is a millionaire now!" thing is another one of those issues that should immediately place people at the kids table. He never said that people shouldn't be successful, but that they had an obligation to the country that made it possible in order to increase that opportunity for people who aren't millionaires. If you think him becoming a millionaire means anything, pick up your divided plate and sippy cup and let the adults talk.

[Cannot think of a name]

Yeah, almost certainly. Though, hell, just some more national debt eh?

that'll never be paid, that's it

We constantly pay our debt, it's one of the most reliable investments around.

[G-Tech Corporation]

that'll never be paid, that's it

We constantly pay our debt, it's one of the most reliable investments around.

Hell, I own plenty of government debt. True story. That doesn't mean I greatly enjoy adding to it. That's how you get the Great Depression, invisible debts shifting around like nobody will every have to pay them off.

[Cannot think of a name]

We constantly pay our debt, it's one of the most reliable investments around.

Hell, I own plenty of government debt. True story. That doesn't mean I greatly enjoy adding to it. That's how you get the Great Depression, invisible debts shifting around like nobody will every have to pay them off.

Isn't that the whole argument from the Republicans, though? That in their case cutting taxes on businesses and rich people will stimulate economic activity which increases the tax base and thus pays for itself? What if we tested their theory but instead gave money to people who essentially have to spend most of what they get to increase economic activity and thus the tax base and pay for itself? People struggling under student debt won't buy back stocks or give already rich CEOs bonuses but instead buy more groceries, clothes, maybe replace their shitbox Honda...