UK Politics Thread IX: The Masses Against the Classes

[The New California Republic]

This version is only an intermediate version and not the "final" post-EU version, as those final types will be blue.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47833702

[Farnhamia]

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This version is only an intermediate version and not the "final" post-EU version, as those final types will be blue.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47833702

Buy as many as you can, they'll be collectable!

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Karen Bradley demonstrating once again how much of a fucking inept moron she is by saying Irish Citizens in NI may not voted in an irish Unity referendum. Or any referendums because you have to be british to vote in them.

To vote in a referendum you must:

be registered to vote
be 18 or over on the day of the referendum (‘polling day’)
be a British, Irish or Commonwealth citizen
be resident at an address in the UK or Gibraltar (or a British citizen living abroad who has been registered to vote in the UK in the last 15 years)
not be legally excluded from voting

You make one choice between 2 options. Votes are counted for the whole of the UK, not by constituency.

https://www.gov.uk/elections-in-the-uk/referendums
This woman, is the one who would have to call a border poll. The woman in charge of all of this stuff has demonstrated time and time again how much of an inept fucking spastic she is. Like im an irish citizen, i voted in the fucking brexit referendum

Fucking fire her.

Brokenshire was a gormless useless fuck but this woman is beyond malicious stupidity. She doesnt even know basic shit about here ffs

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You can vote in a UK referendum if you're a Singaporean or Jamaican citizen.
How can a cabinet official not know how our fucking voting system works?

[Vi Lou Medica]

I think that we as a nation weren't given the full facts so we voted unaware of the true extent of the consequences of our decision. I think that now that we are more educated in the consequences we should hold a second referendum to vote again

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

I think that we as a nation weren't given the full facts so we voted unaware of the true extent of the consequences of our decision. I think that now that we are more educated in the consequences we should hold a second referendum to vote again

But the first referedum was the Will of the People ersumthing...

[Greater vakolicci haven]

I think that we as a nation weren't given the full facts so we voted unaware of the true extent of the consequences of our decision. I think that now that we are more educated in the consequences we should hold a second referendum to vote again

But the first referedum was the Will of the People ersumthing...

I know exactly what I voted for, and knew that the short-term effects of leaving the customs union and common market would be dire, however the longterm appeared promising. I still support this position today.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

But the first referedum was the Will of the People ersumthing...

I know exactly what I voted for, and knew that the short-term effects of leaving the customs union and common market would be dire, however the longterm appeared promising. I still support this position today.

Good for you.

Others didn't, and when the original margin was 2 percentage points, you might want to check again.

[Vi Lou Medica]

I think that we as a nation weren't given the full facts so we voted unaware of the true extent of the consequences of our decision. I think that now that we are more educated in the consequences we should hold a second referendum to vote again

But the first referedum was the Will of the People ersumthing...

Yes we did choose to have the first referendum and the result of it is our will but I think that we voted for it blindly and focused on the immigration side of it thanks to fears of racism being played on by the media and didn't consider the knock on effect it would have on other aspects. Now we as a nation have had a taste of the complications and realised reality I think we should have an opportunity to change the path before it's too late. I am saying this as someone who wanted Brexit and thinks it should still happen but I know a lot of people who realise how hasty they acted without having full facts in the first vote

[Kowani]

But the first referedum was the Will of the People ersumthing...

I know exactly what I voted for, and knew that the short-term effects of leaving the customs union and common market would be dire, however the longterm appeared promising. I still support this position today.

What long term benefits do you ever expect to get?

[Fartsniffage]

I know exactly what I voted for, and knew that the short-term effects of leaving the customs union and common market would be dire, however the longterm appeared promising. I still support this position today.

What long term benefits do you ever expect to get?

You're asking a person who wants airport security to be gotten rid of because they don't care if they live or die....

[Greater vakolicci haven]

I know exactly what I voted for, and knew that the short-term effects of leaving the customs union and common market would be dire, however the longterm appeared promising. I still support this position today.

What long term benefits do you ever expect to get?

Trade deals that aren't decided based on the hysterics of French farmers.

[Farnhamia]

What long term benefits do you ever expect to get?

Trade deals that aren't decided based on the hysterics of French farmers.

From whom? Donald Trump? Xi Jinping? Vladimir Putin? I'd stick with the hyperventilating French farmers.

[Greater vakolicci haven]

Trade deals that aren't decided based on the hysterics of French farmers.

From whom? Donald Trump? Xi Jinping? Vladimir Putin? I'd stick with the hyperventilating French farmers.

I don't see a problem with the supposed issues with American food.

[Neu Leonstein]

I know exactly what I voted for, and knew that the short-term effects of leaving the customs union and common market would be dire, however the longterm appeared promising. I still support this position today.

Did you though?

viewtopic.php?p=24303866#p24303866

In that context, I recommend everyone this great article about how human brains work: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017 ... -our-minds

[Ostroeuropa]

What long term benefits do you ever expect to get?

You're asking a person who wants airport security to be gotten rid of because they don't care if they live or die....

Airport security isn't as necessary as it once was, the real change was to monitor flight patterns and shoot down planes if they deviate without responding. That is what makes them undesirable to hijack for terrorism. We don't need most of what we do currently, and you can tell this is the case by noting the deviations between countries on airport security.

If flights inbound from middle eastern countries have less security than UK airports at their own airports, doesn't that kind of suggest the heights of our security are nonsensical?

Example;

The US goes as far as to make passengers take off their shoes before boarding so they can be searched. But more planes are inbound to the US than outbound, so... ????

If countries honestly thought their security policies were necessary they would do something akin to the EU and demand any inbound flight have been subjected to similar security before it can arrive in our airspace. But they don't, because it's not actually sincere policy, merely a way to appeal to the authoritarian goon vote who would probably clap like seals if a government came out and said they were adding a magic rock to airport security to check if someone was thinking terrorist thoughts. It's more about signaling to a particular voter that you take an issue seriously, even if "Taking it seriously" is done in the most obvious and least effective ways, but they ARE in your face ways that you can't ignore, and that's the real point. This is why you can almost directly corrolate """Airport security""" with "War on terror" news scares, and why outside the west we look like weirdo lunatics. Even authoritarian dictatorships think we're barmy.

A basic level of security is fine, because the time investment and risk involved with taking down a single plane isn't as good as doing some other form of terror attack.

That doesn't mean scrap all security, because that would make it a low risk, low investment target. But we can, at least, lower our security to the level of say, fucking Iraq or something?

Metal detector, chem detector, random checks, bam. Problem solved.

What's worse is all this silly shit is bad for the economy, unless you take the cynical view that scaring the shit out of the public with terrorism nonsense makes more cash even if you have to sell them magic rocks and tell them to wave them above their heads for five minutes before they board a plane to keep them from freaking out tooooo much, than not doing that would because then they start doing shit like asking you; "Why are you spying on us?" and so on.

[Thermodolia]

What long term benefits do you ever expect to get?

You're asking a person who wants airport security to be gotten rid of because they don't care if they live or die....

A lot of airport security is just a bunch of security theater

[Shrillland]

You're asking a person who wants airport security to be gotten rid of because they don't care if they live or die....

A lot of airport security is just a bunch of security theater

That it is. 20 years ago, Bill Maher called it "a true Potemkin Village for the nuclear age", and it really hasn't improved since the public are easily terrorised into thinking "It could happen again!" even though that's highly unlikely. Contrary to popular belief 5000 to 1 odds don't automatically go down just because the 1 actually happens.

[Dooom35796821595]

Aye, a few wee tweaks. Bit of elbow grease and all that razzamatazz.

Facetious handwaving won't make what I said any less true.

If we yanks can restore our legislative building than so can you.

I think the two are not even remotely comparable. The Capitol Building just had the dome restored in recent years for a price tag of $60 million. The restoration of Parliament will cost the equivalent of $4.55 billion at minimum; and that's only if the functions of Parliament are relocated during the renovations. If they are not, then it will take 40 years and cost $7.4 billion.

£4.5 billion? Is it going to have blast doors and laser turrets? A secret escape tunnel and a shark tank? A giant throne of skulls for the PM? Hallways made out of a gold titanium alloy, studded with diamonds and filled with custom faberge eggs?

How many ways can our government find to waste tax money!

[Hydesland]

I know exactly what I voted for, and knew that the short-term effects of leaving the customs union and common market would be dire, however the longterm appeared promising. I still support this position today.

Did you though?

viewtopic.php?p=24303866#p24303866

In that context, I recommend everyone this great article about how human brains work: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017 ... -our-minds

Ahahaha, amazing.

[The Blaatschapen]

A lot of airport security is just a bunch of security theater

That it is. 20 years ago, Bill Maher called it "a true Potemkin Village for the nuclear age", and it really hasn't improved since the public are easily terrorised into thinking "It could happen again!" even though that's highly unlikely. Contrary to popular belief 5000 to 1 odds don't automatically go down just because the 1 actually happens.

5000 to 1 is extremely high.

There are tens of thousands flights a day.

[Greater Loegria]

From whom? Donald Trump? Xi Jinping? Vladimir Putin? I'd stick with the hyperventilating French farmers.

I don't see a problem with the supposed issues with American food.

Have you been to America and see the shite they have on their shelves? It's bloody unwholesome. Though not a huge problem for the likes of myself who would never even contemplate buying such food, but for the inbred crayon munchers that roam the isles at Iceland or Asda that is what they'll be eating: chlorinated chickens, weirdly fed cows and all sorts of other noxious rubbish.

[Caracasus]

I don't see a problem with the supposed issues with American food.

Have you been to America and see the shite they have on their shelves? It's bloody unwholesome. Though not a huge problem for the likes of myself who would never even contemplate buying such food, but for the inbred crayon munchers that roam the isles at Iceland or Asda that is what they'll be eating: chlorinated chickens, weirdly fed cows and all sorts of other noxious rubbish.

For someone who seems hell bent on worshiping aristocracy and some weird pimm's induced hallucination of 1950's village life you've got a hell of a lot of nerve calling anyone inbred...

[The Huskar Social Union]

Have you been to America and see the shite they have on their shelves? It's bloody unwholesome. Though not a huge problem for the likes of myself who would never even contemplate buying such food, but for the inbred crayon munchers that roam the isles at Iceland or Asda that is what they'll be eating: chlorinated chickens, weirdly fed cows and all sorts of other noxious rubbish.

For someone who seems hell bent on worshiping aristocracy and some weird pimm's induced hallucination of 1950's village life you've got a hell of a lot of nerve calling anyone inbred...

Fuckin




GOT EM

[The Huskar Social Union]

Karen Bradley demonstrating once again how much of a fucking inept moron she is by saying Irish Citizens in NI may not voted in an irish Unity referendum. Or any referendums because you have to be british to vote in them.




https://www.gov.uk/elections-in-the-uk/referendums
This woman, is the one who would have to call a border poll. The woman in charge of all of this stuff has demonstrated time and time again how much of an inept fucking spastic she is. Like im an irish citizen, i voted in the fucking brexit referendum

Fucking fire her.

Brokenshire was a gormless useless fuck but this woman is beyond malicious stupidity. She doesnt even know basic shit about here ffs

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You can vote in a UK referendum if you're a Singaporean or Jamaican citizen.
How can a cabinet official not know how our fucking voting system works?

Cuz she is a daft motherfucker

[The Huskar Social Union]

Great, but also poor choice of words