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San Lumen wrote:Some good and bad news out of Michigan. Governor Synder vetoed the bill to limit the power of the incoming statewide officials but signed a bill that would make placing a referendum on the ballot much harder. The latter might be unconstitutional and will likely wind up before the State Supreme Court.

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by Genivaria » Sat Dec 29, 2018 3:45 pm
The Twenty-seventh Amendment (Amendment XXVII) to the United States Constitution prohibits any law that increases or decreases the salary of members of Congress from taking effect until the start of the next set of terms of office for Representatives. The amendment is the most recent to be adopted, but one of the first proposed.
It was submitted by the 1st Congress to the states for ratification on September 25, 1789, along with eleven other proposed amendments. While ten of these twelve proposals were ratified in 1791 to become the Bill of Rights, what would become the Twenty-seventh Amendment and the proposed Congressional Apportionment Amendment did not get ratified by enough states for them to also come into force with the first ten amendments.
The proposed congressional pay amendment was largely forgotten until 1982, when Gregory Watson, a 19-year-old sophomore at the University of Texas at Austin, wrote a paper for a government class in which he claimed that the amendment could still be ratified. A teaching assistant graded the paper a "C" and an appeal to Professor Sharon Waite failed, motivating Watson to launch a nationwide campaign to complete its ratification.[1] The amendment eventually became part of the United States Constitution, effective May 5, 1992,[2] completing a record-setting ratification period of 202 years, 7 months, and 10 days.[3]


by Telconi » Sat Dec 29, 2018 3:47 pm
Genivaria wrote:So this is the closest relevant thread I could find for this post.
I was looking up Constitutional Amendments because I didn't know how many there were, turns out its 27.
And then I saw that the 27th Amendment was proposed on September 25, 1789 but wasn't ratified until May 5, 1992.
I thought this was utterly bizarre so I looked it up.
And this is ridiculously absurd that it sounds like something out of a comedy.The Twenty-seventh Amendment (Amendment XXVII) to the United States Constitution prohibits any law that increases or decreases the salary of members of Congress from taking effect until the start of the next set of terms of office for Representatives. The amendment is the most recent to be adopted, but one of the first proposed.
It was submitted by the 1st Congress to the states for ratification on September 25, 1789, along with eleven other proposed amendments. While ten of these twelve proposals were ratified in 1791 to become the Bill of Rights, what would become the Twenty-seventh Amendment and the proposed Congressional Apportionment Amendment did not get ratified by enough states for them to also come into force with the first ten amendments.
The proposed congressional pay amendment was largely forgotten until 1982, when Gregory Watson, a 19-year-old sophomore at the University of Texas at Austin, wrote a paper for a government class in which he claimed that the amendment could still be ratified. A teaching assistant graded the paper a "C" and an appeal to Professor Sharon Waite failed, motivating Watson to launch a nationwide campaign to complete its ratification.[1] The amendment eventually became part of the United States Constitution, effective May 5, 1992,[2] completing a record-setting ratification period of 202 years, 7 months, and 10 days.[3]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty-se ... nstitution
It took 200 years for Congress to not benefit from adjusting their own salaries.

by Northern Davincia » Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:19 pm
San Lumen wrote:Telconi wrote:
There are many methods of securing people's rights. Rendering a government who attacks those rights inoperable is one such way.
Go ask someone from Somalia how wonderful having no functioning government is. In fact as ask Congresswoman Illhan Omar. She can tell you all about it.
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."

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by Corrian » Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:49 pm
Northern Davincia wrote:If 5% of the people vote Libertarian, why shouldn't there be a 5% Libertarian makeup in congress?

by Northern Davincia » Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:56 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."

by Genivaria » Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:04 pm
Platform
The Reform Party platform includes the following:[4]
Maintaining a balanced budget, ensured by passing a Balanced Budget Amendment and changing budgeting practices, and paying down the federal debt
Campaign finance reform, including strict limits on campaign contributions and the outlawing of political action committees
Enforcement of existing immigration laws and opposition to illegal immigration
Opposition to free trade agreements like the North American Free Trade Agreement and Central America Free Trade Agreement, and a call for withdrawal from the World Trade Organization
Term limits on U.S. Representatives and Senators
Direct election of the United States President by popular vote and other election system reforms
Federal elections held on weekends or Election Day (on a Tuesday) made a national holiday
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