Robert Mueller Uncovers Real Collusion

[Kowani]

Not while the Republicans hold the Senate...

Depends. If Pence would be safe then they might. President Michael Pence, First of His Name, Lord of the 50 Realms and Holy Zapper of Gays.

Oh yay, a dystopian future.

[Novus Wrepland]

Not while the Republicans hold the Senate...

Depends. If Pence would be safe then they might. President Michael Pence, First of His Name, Lord of the 50 Realms and Holy Zapper of Gays.

To be honest I wouldn’t mind President Pence if the Democrats take the Senate too. If the Republicans lose power they’ll just instantly decide they need to adopt full fascism so President Pence would delay that.

[Des-Bal]

Hillary was just as crooked. Maybe not with Russians, but every lobbyist you could think off was reaching down her pockets.

There is a slight difference between accepting money from political lobbys- whose exist solely as entities to give money to political candidates to have their issues addressed- and conspiring with a foreign power whose interests and ours are often opposed. Poe's Law is in effect, When South Park parodied Trump supporters they literally just did what you did unironically.

[Shofercia]

Harley Davidson also says hi.

Their declining sales in the US say hi. It makes perfect sense for them to pack up and leave the US when they aren't selling very well in the US.

I get not everyone is a business owner or super interested in the field or anything but c'mon this isn't rocket science.

You cannot say anything good about Orange Man to most Liberals, because for them - Orange Man Bad! Next claim: "Trump is really bad for the stock market!"

Another "Crumpf is finished this time I swears guys!", by the looks of it.

I'd like to restate that Mueller's court filings for Cohen revealed that Cohen broke the law at the direction of Individual 1, which is similar to what Nixon had to resign in shame over.

Did Cohen have any proof? Considering that by now almost everyone hates Cohen, and that he's the type to say anything to avoid jail time, some of us are going to need more proof than "sleazy former Trump attorney, who's desperate and very angry at Trump, totally said so!" Comey actually had recording - smart man.

Depends. If Pence would be safe then they might. President Michael Pence, First of His Name, Lord of the 50 Realms and Holy Zapper of Gays.

To be honest I wouldn’t mind President Pence if the Democrats take the Senate too. If the Republicans lose power they’ll just instantly decide they need to adopt full fascism so President Pence would delay that.

How would Democrats take the Senate without an election? Or are you confident that Trump would win in 2020?

[Shofercia]

Hillary was just as crooked. Maybe not with Russians, but every lobbyist you could think off was reaching down her pockets.

There is a slight difference between accepting money from political lobbys- whose exist solely as entities to give money to political candidates to have their issues addressed- and conspiring with a foreign power whose interests and ours are often opposed. Poe's Law is in effect, When South Park parodied Trump supporters they literally just did what you did unironically.

Quick question: if the Clinton Foundation received money from foreign governments while she was Secretary of State, and while she was running, but suddenly stopped receiving money from places like Saudi Arabia, (who just had it in their hearts and minds to promote Human Rights and donate to help kids through the Clinton Foundation) doesn't that kind of imply that they were hoping for something in return when they donated?

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... donations/

The Clinton Global Initiative has terminated 22 employees and will soon become another casualty of the 2016 election season. CGI, which opened in 2005, will officially close April 15, 2017. Paperwork filed with the New York Department of Labor Jan. 12 confirmed the “discontinuation,” along with the termination of 22 employees. The Jan. 12 filing makes permanent plans issued Aug. 22 by former President Bill Clinton as the family attempted to extricate itself from any conflicts of interest. A spokesperson for the Clinton Foundation declined to comment on the record with Fox News when contacted Monday about the WARN notice [The Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act].

“This [group] wasn’t just for charitable ends,” Brian Morgenstern, vice president for the Manhattan Republican Party, told the network. “As the initiative is closing its doors, you see foreign governments who had pledged tens-of-millions of dollars pulling their donations now that Hillary Clinton will not be the president. That shows a lot of people that this was more than just a charity. This was a way for the Clintons to network and really peddle influence due to their positions in leadership.” CGI was criticized prior to the Nov. 8, 2016, election when stolen emails belonging to Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta detailed some of the group’s inner workings. WikiLeaks documents revealed Teneo co-founder Douglas Band discussing ways his consulting firm secured lucrative deals for Mr. Clinton.

[Des-Bal]

Quick question: if the Clinton Foundation received money from foreign governments while she was Secretary of State, and while she was running, but suddenly stopped receiving money from places like Saudi Arabia, (who just had it in their hearts and minds to promote Human Rights and donate to help kids through the Clinton Foundation) doesn't that kind of imply that they were hoping for something in return when they donated?

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... donations/

The Clinton Global Initiative has terminated 22 employees and will soon become another casualty of the 2016 election season. CGI, which opened in 2005, will officially close April 15, 2017. Paperwork filed with the New York Department of Labor Jan. 12 confirmed the “discontinuation,” along with the termination of 22 employees. The Jan. 12 filing makes permanent plans issued Aug. 22 by former President Bill Clinton as the family attempted to extricate itself from any conflicts of interest. A spokesperson for the Clinton Foundation declined to comment on the record with Fox News when contacted Monday about the WARN notice [The Worker Adjustment and Retraining Notification Act].

“This [group] wasn’t just for charitable ends,” Brian Morgenstern, vice president for the Manhattan Republican Party, told the network. “As the initiative is closing its doors, you see foreign governments who had pledged tens-of-millions of dollars pulling their donations now that Hillary Clinton will not be the president. That shows a lot of people that this was more than just a charity. This was a way for the Clintons to network and really peddle influence due to their positions in leadership.” CGI was criticized prior to the Nov. 8, 2016, election when stolen emails belonging to Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta detailed some of the group’s inner workings. WikiLeaks documents revealed Teneo co-founder Douglas Band discussing ways his consulting firm secured lucrative deals for Mr. Clinton.

See this is the exact shit I'm talking about, this isn't about Hilary fucking Clinton. I was warned for calling her flesh-eating monster so the "but hilary" shtick isn't going to get far with me.

[Shofercia]

Quick question: if the Clinton Foundation received money from foreign governments while she was Secretary of State, and while she was running, but suddenly stopped receiving money from places like Saudi Arabia, (who just had it in their hearts and minds to promote Human Rights and donate to help kids through the Clinton Foundation) doesn't that kind of imply that they were hoping for something in return when they donated?

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... donations/

See this is the exact shit I'm talking about, this isn't about Hilary fucking Clinton. I was warned for calling her flesh-eating monster so the "but hilary" shtick isn't going to get far with me.

This is why I laugh at both political parties. Both had decent candidates. The Republicans had Rand Paul, and the Democrats had Bernie Sanders. But big money, big egos, and big spending led the parties to elect their most corrupt, (or second most corrupt, since Republicans also had Jeb!) candidates. Thus, when we entered the general election, the choice was a fucking joke.

How did Trump win? He only had a third of the votes in New Hampshire and South Carolina. He picked up another third on Super Tuesday. But Cruz, Rubio, and Kasich did nothing to stop Trump. They didn't join forces. And so he won. Clinton decided to "celebrate" Trump's primary victory by calling potential voters - "deplorables" even after Romney's 47% gaffe severely hurt his chances. After being accused of being a robot, she nominated a robot as her vice president, who was so inhuman, that he lost a debate to Mike Pence.

It's not just Trump or Clinton - it's the system that made Trump the president, and it's not just the Electoral College. It's the press, who many consider to be elitist snobs, which might be Cuomo's nickname. Since they're so pissed off at Trump, https://www.investors.com/politics/edit ... -coverage/ - why not vote for him, and tell them to shove it? That's how some people, in key swing states, actually think.

[Telconi]

Depends. If Pence would be safe then they might. President Michael Pence, First of His Name, Lord of the 50 Realms and Holy Zapper of Gays.

Oh yay, a dystopian future.

Dystopia for you...

[Petrasylvania]

Oh yay, a dystopian future.

Dystopia for you...

Good to know you want to electrocute LGBTs.

[Vassenor]

Oh yay, a dystopian future.

Dystopia for you...

So what makes it objectively not dystopian?

[Tobleste]

If him being there hurts their election chances, he is gone.

Bingo! If the Dems have any sense, they'll drag out the evidentiary hearings before starting the articles of impeachment. They can fill the next two years with increasingly ugly news of the president's collusion with foreign powers.* The GOP senators would like to keep their jobs, and "I support a traitor!" is just not a winning campaign plank.

*: It's theoretically possible that Mueller's got nothing, but I don't believe it.

That's probably the best approach. Republicans would never stand up to Trump regardless of what he does but dems can use that to hurt them in 2020 by exposing his every scandal and forcing republicans to defend it. They could (further) taint the GOP in the minds of an entire generation.

[Major-Tom]

Bingo! If the Dems have any sense, they'll drag out the evidentiary hearings before starting the articles of impeachment. They can fill the next two years with increasingly ugly news of the president's collusion with foreign powers.* The GOP senators would like to keep their jobs, and "I support a traitor!" is just not a winning campaign plank.

*: It's theoretically possible that Mueller's got nothing, but I don't believe it.

That's probably the best approach. Republicans would never stand up to Trump regardless of what he does but dems can use that to hurt them in 2020 by exposing his every scandal and forcing republicans to defend it. They could (further) taint the GOP in the minds of an entire generation.

One would hope that it wouldn't just bring about a five or so year period where the GOP is looked at with disdain. That happened in the 70s - after Watergate, the '74 Midterms crushed the GOP, and '76 brought in Carter despite perceived economic growth and foreign policy strength under Ford. Yet, four years later, the GOP was able to reinvent themselves.

But, if the prevailing ideologies that are in the GOP continue to remain unchanged in several years, perhaps the GOP will see a very long period of relative political isolation. But only time will tell.

[Cannot think of a name]

Bingo! If the Dems have any sense, they'll drag out the evidentiary hearings before starting the articles of impeachment. They can fill the next two years with increasingly ugly news of the president's collusion with foreign powers.* The GOP senators would like to keep their jobs, and "I support a traitor!" is just not a winning campaign plank.

*: It's theoretically possible that Mueller's got nothing, but I don't believe it.

That's probably the best approach. Republicans would never stand up to Trump regardless of what he does but dems can use that to hurt them in 2020 by exposing his every scandal and forcing republicans to defend it. They could (further) taint the GOP in the minds of an entire generation.

It worked on Clinton.

[Dark Socialism]

Dystopia for you...

So what makes it objectively not dystopian?

It's dystopian for LGBT people but not normal people

[Chernoslavia]

Dystopia for you...

So what makes it objectively not dystopian?

Because nobody's gonna haul anybody off to some concentration camp or gulag?

[Thermodolia]

Not while the Republicans hold the Senate...

Depends. If Pence would be safe then they might. President Michael Pence, First of His Name, Lord of the 50 Realms and Holy Zapper of Gays.

I laughed

[Hatterleigh]

Does anyone actually care about this stuff? Does anyone actually care about dumb real life politics? I hate that stuff ngl

But tbh I doubt anythings gonna happen, not that I care.

If you hate it, then why comment on it?

Because i'm asking a question

[Bombadil]

If you hate it, then why comment on it?

Because i'm asking a question

How can you not care when such witty repartee as this is taking place..

“On 5 September,” Nadler said, “President Trump brought up special counsel Mueller in an interview with the Daily Caller, stating: ‘And he’s Comey’s best friend, and I could give you a hundred pictures of him and Comey hugging and kissing each other. You know he’s Comey’s best friend.’”

Nadler asked: “Are you best friends with Robert Mueller?”

Comey replied that though he admired “the heck out of the man”, he did not know his phone number or the names of his children.

“I think I had a meal once alone with him in a restaurant,” he said. “I like him … I’m an associate of his who admires him greatly. We’re not friends in any social sense.”

Nadler said he would not “ask whether you’ve ever hugged and kissed him”.

“A relief to my wife,” Comey said.

[Farnhamia]

So what makes it objectively not dystopian?

It's dystopian for LGBT people but not normal people

*** Warned for trolling. ***

[Individual 1]

If you hate it, then why comment on it?

Because i'm asking a question

They say there aren't any stupid questions, just stupid answers.

[Teachian]

One would hope that it wouldn't just bring about a five or so year period where the GOP is looked at with disdain. That happened in the 70s - after Watergate, the '74 Midterms crushed the GOP, and '76 brought in Carter despite perceived economic growth and foreign policy strength under Ford. Yet, four years later, the GOP was able to reinvent themselves.

But, if the prevailing ideologies that are in the GOP continue to remain unchanged in several years, perhaps the GOP will see a very long period of relative political isolation. But only time will tell.

Eh, I feel like the two-party system will propel them back into relevance. It’s easier to “redeem” a party than it is to build a new one, and even if the Democrats somehow did everything perfectly, not every single person in America’s getting behind one party. Probably only take a single presidential term to give them the chance to reinvent themselves as the alternative to the status quo.

I really do hope that if they do get discredited, it hits the most toxic parts of their party the most, so that the inevitable bounce-back is led by more people who don’t make me facepalm.

[Far Easter Republic]

Even if he gets impeached I'd doubt he'd get the boot

Not while the Republicans hold the Senate...

Republican GREW there lead in the Senate. Trump now has a safety net and probably 1/4 of House Democrats lose in 2020 if they tried for impeachment. Who in there right mind would do something that would ultimately fail and come back to bite them. But if the past 2 years told us anything, Democrats can't get over the fact Hilary was a bad candidate.
And impeaching Trump gets Peance, Who is more to the right. They'd (Dems) be making matters worse for themselves.

[Major-Tom]

Not while the Republicans hold the Senate...

Depends. If Pence would be safe then they might. President Michael Pence, First of His Name, Lord of the 50 Realms and Holy Zapper of Gays.

One might say he would be high voltage.

[Bombadil]

Not while the Republicans hold the Senate...

Republican GREW there lead in the Senate. Trump now has a safety net and probably 1/4 of House Democrats lose in 2020 if they tried for impeachment. Who in there right mind would do something that would ultimately fail and come back to bite them. But if the past 2 years told us anything, Democrats can't get over the fact Hilary was a bad candidate.
And impeaching Trump gets Peance, Who is more to the right. They'd (Dems) be making matters worse for themselves.

Republicans grew in a vote for just 1/3 of seats that tilted in their favour.. yet they lost the popular vote for the Senate by 15M votes as well as losing the popular votes for the House by 10M votes.

That's far more than the 3M votes Trump lost by..

Trump has also lulled in the low 40% for popularity throughout his presidency. A good deal of America and near most of the world would be hugely relieved to see the back of him, in jail preferably.

Pence would be an utterly lame duck president with no mandate even if he didn't simply resign.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Dystopia for you...

So what makes it objectively not dystopian?

Dystopia is relative. I wouldn't have many problems under President Pence, I can't imagine the same would be true for you.

If you were American of course.