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by Cannot think of a name » Sun Nov 11, 2018 4:24 pm

by Northern Davincia » Sun Nov 11, 2018 4:29 pm
San Lumen wrote:Kaggeceria wrote:They're one-party areas. Opposition has no chance.
Don't really seem like shining examples of democracy.
Not true. People leaning overwhelmingly to one side doesnt make it a dictatorship. Albany, New York for example has not elected a Republican to any city office since 1931. That does not make it a dictatorship.
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."

by San Lumen » Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:46 pm
Northern Davincia wrote:San Lumen wrote:
Not true. People leaning overwhelmingly to one side doesnt make it a dictatorship. Albany, New York for example has not elected a Republican to any city office since 1931. That does not make it a dictatorship.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/gov ... e-1.975258
"I am the government." -Andrew CuomoSan Lumen wrote:
Albany, New York or Minneapolis is a poorly functioning democracy because the people vote overwhelmingly one way? They voted in a free and fair election for their representatives.
Are you ignoring gerrymandering that goes on in NY?

by Tobleste » Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:52 pm
Cannot think of a name wrote:Kaggeceria wrote:Here we see an advocate of a one-party state.
A far larger and more dangerous enemy of democracy than any Repubkican.
In which we pretend there is a strict binary and only one shape opposition can take in order to score on a point no one made. Now lets spend the next two pages in which people are told what they believe and what their arguments.

by Tobleste » Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:53 pm
Luminesa wrote:Tobleste wrote:
If you're in an abusive relationship, compromising doesn't really work. I see no reason why liberal Americans benefit from the republican party's existence. Frankly, I see little reason why most Americans benefit from it's existence.
You don’t see a reason but the majority leader of your house does.

by Northern Davincia » Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:56 pm
San Lumen wrote:Northern Davincia wrote:http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/gov ... e-1.975258
"I am the government." -Andrew Cuomo
Are you ignoring gerrymandering that goes on in NY?
daily news is not a good source nor is that relevant to calling municipalities dictatorships because they lean overwhelmingly one way.
all gerrymandering ought to be outlawed. In New York we passed amendment to the state constitution in 2014 to outlaw it and hand redistricting over to a an independent commission. It will take effect in 2021 after the next census
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."

by San Lumen » Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:57 pm
Northern Davincia wrote:San Lumen wrote:daily news is not a good source nor is that relevant to calling municipalities dictatorships because they lean overwhelmingly one way.
all gerrymandering ought to be outlawed. In New York we passed amendment to the state constitution in 2014 to outlaw it and hand redistricting over to a an independent commission. It will take effect in 2021 after the next census
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/ ... 86457.html
There, now you can have your favorite flavor of media. New York might not be a dictatorship but it is subject to mob rule.

by Northern Davincia » Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:01 pm
San Lumen wrote:Northern Davincia wrote:https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/ ... 86457.html
There, now you can have your favorite flavor of media. New York might not be a dictatorship but it is subject to mob rule.
Oh who cares! It was dumb comment and its from several years ago too.
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."

by Shofercia » Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:03 pm
The supervisor of elections in Florida's heavily Democratic Palm Beach County said Sunday that she did not believe her department would meet a Thursday deadline to complete recounts in the Sunshine State's historically tight gubernatorial and Senate races, threatening to further confuse an increasingly chaotic and politically fraught process.
The supervisor, Susan Bucher, told reporters that she did not expect to meet the deadline due to aging equipment. Florida Department of State spokeswoman Sarah Revell told Fox News that under state law, if a county does not submit their results by the deadline, then the results on file at the time take their place. Revell added that Florida's Secretary of State has no authority to grant extensions.

by Ism » Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:08 pm
Shofercia wrote:Is someone scripting this in Florida? Please, please, please tell me this is scripted: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem-le ... nate-racesThe supervisor of elections in Florida's heavily Democratic Palm Beach County said Sunday that she did not believe her department would meet a Thursday deadline to complete recounts in the Sunshine State's historically tight gubernatorial and Senate races, threatening to further confuse an increasingly chaotic and politically fraught process.
The supervisor, Susan Bucher, told reporters that she did not expect to meet the deadline due to aging equipment. Florida Department of State spokeswoman Sarah Revell told Fox News that under state law, if a county does not submit their results by the deadline, then the results on file at the time take their place. Revell added that Florida's Secretary of State has no authority to grant extensions.
Oh Florida. What are we going to do with you? Maybe we should have nationally mandated, (or womandated,) election standards, just for Florida.

by Valrifell » Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:36 pm
Ism wrote:Shofercia wrote:Is someone scripting this in Florida? Please, please, please tell me this is scripted: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem-le ... nate-races
Oh Florida. What are we going to do with you? Maybe we should have nationally mandated, (or womandated,) election standards, just for Florida.
Florida would still screw it up. Somehow.

by Dahon » Sun Nov 11, 2018 8:39 pm

by Senkaku » Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:03 pm
Shofercia wrote:Is someone scripting this in Florida? Please, please, please tell me this is scripted: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem-le ... nate-racesThe supervisor of elections in Florida's heavily Democratic Palm Beach County said Sunday that she did not believe her department would meet a Thursday deadline to complete recounts in the Sunshine State's historically tight gubernatorial and Senate races, threatening to further confuse an increasingly chaotic and politically fraught process.
The supervisor, Susan Bucher, told reporters that she did not expect to meet the deadline due to aging equipment. Florida Department of State spokeswoman Sarah Revell told Fox News that under state law, if a county does not submit their results by the deadline, then the results on file at the time take their place. Revell added that Florida's Secretary of State has no authority to grant extensions.
Oh Florida. What are we going to do with you? Maybe we should have nationally mandated, (or womandated,) election standards, just for Florida.


by Pasong Tirad » Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:20 pm
Senkaku wrote:Shofercia wrote:Is someone scripting this in Florida? Please, please, please tell me this is scripted: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem-le ... nate-races
Oh Florida. What are we going to do with you? Maybe we should have nationally mandated, (or womandated,) election standards, just for Florida.
They would be immediately violated, because Florida is a lost cause in every possible way. At least in a century or so it'll be underwater and we won't have to deal with its shit any more.


by Senkaku » Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:20 pm

by San Lumen » Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:21 pm
Northern Davincia wrote:San Lumen wrote:
Oh who cares! It was dumb comment and its from several years ago too.
This man has absolutely no check on his power with the loss of the state senate. When someone declares that they are the government, and they have no opposition, the image that comes to mind is that of jackboots stomping on faces.

by Northern Davincia » Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:28 pm
San Lumen wrote:Northern Davincia wrote:This man has absolutely no check on his power with the loss of the state senate. When someone declares that they are the government, and they have no opposition, the image that comes to mind is that of jackboots stomping on faces.
The people voted for a democratic state senate.
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."

by Valrifell » Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:35 pm

by Northern Davincia » Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:39 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."

by San Lumen » Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:49 pm

by Northern Davincia » Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:55 pm
San Lumen wrote:Northern Davincia wrote:Indeed, hence why I mentioned mob rule. They'll come to their senses eventually.
Thats code for I don't like the result therefore things will change next time. That's like people saying I dont like Muslims therefore they shouldn't be allowed in public office such as Minnesota's new Attorney General Keith Ellison despite the constitution banning religious tests.
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."

by San Lumen » Sun Nov 11, 2018 9:57 pm
Northern Davincia wrote:San Lumen wrote:How are freedoms at stake? How exactly are you being oppressed?
https://www.freedominthe50states.org/overall/new-yorkSan Lumen wrote:Thats code for I don't like the result therefore things will change next time. That's like people saying I dont like Muslims therefore they shouldn't be allowed in public office such as Minnesota's new Attorney General Keith Ellison despite the constitution banning religious tests.
I don't see the similarities. Independent voters have the best shot at actually improving NY instead of kowtowing to one city.

by Northern Davincia » Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:00 pm
San Lumen wrote:Northern Davincia wrote:https://www.freedominthe50states.org/overall/new-york
I don't see the similarities. Independent voters have the best shot at actually improving NY instead of kowtowing to one city.
kowtowing to one city? That city is 50 percent of the population and their vote counts just as much as yours.
Conserative Morality wrote:"Two gin-scented tears trickled down the sides of his nose. But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Hoppe."

by Senkaku » Sun Nov 11, 2018 10:12 pm
Northern Davincia wrote:San Lumen wrote:How are freedoms at stake? How exactly are you being oppressed?
https://www.freedominthe50states.org/overall/new-york

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