US Midterm Election Megathread II: The Stretch Run Begins

[The Black Forrest]

In other words only profit matters.

Profit matters if you want safer communities and higher living standards, yes.

And the fixed income people?

[San Lumen]

In other words only profit matters.

Profit matters if you want safer communities and higher living standards, yes.

Again I ask why not make all housing something only the rich can afford. Push all those other people out.

[Post War America]

Yeah how dare people be able to afford where they live. Housing should be something only the rich can afford

The issue is not people affording it. The issue is that a lot of renters will just make condos out of existing apartments, or will otherwise try to circumvent rent control.

Rent control is just not sustainable from an economic standpoint, let alone practical for the situation of high rent.

I'd prefer abolishing antidevelopment laws and spreading mutliuse zoning, but those don't sound as catchy as rent control unfortunately.

[Arlenton]

Profit matters if you want safer communities and higher living standards, yes.

Oh, come now. I live in a rural community that's fairly poor, but I wouldn't call us unsafe. Petty crime's a little high, but that's all.

I think rural is a key word there.

[Telconi]

Affordable housing doesn't exactly help property value.

In other words only profit matters.

It matters more than the rent prices in San Francisco.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Rent Control and housing restrictions is what has made the prices there so high.

Then stop building luxury housing for rich people and only build affordable housing and if rich people don't like they no longer have penthouses to look down upon the peasants then leave build their mansions in some boring suburb.

lmao it's not even that they are building new "luxury condos".

They merely changed the form of "leasing" or ownership if you will. Instead of leasing apartments they are selling vertical real estate. It's more profitable under a rent control scheme. Which is in part what has pushed out a lot of people from the Bay Area.

They're still the same ol' buildings, all that changes is the owners got pissy about being told how much to charge and changed the form of ownership to give a big giant "fuck you" to SF.

[Oil exporting People]

Profit matters if you want safer communities and higher living standards, yes.

Again I ask why not make all housing something only the rich can afford. Push all those other people out.

And ask again whether you read what is posted. Rent control doesn't fix the issue and in fact makes it worse; removing rent control results in lower rents and more housing. Rent control only benefits the wealthy as well.

So I'll ask you, why should Rich people only get houses? Why do you hate the Poor San?

[Kaggeceria]

Profit matters if you want safer communities and higher living standards, yes.

Oh, come now. I live in a rural community that's fairly poor, but I wouldn't call us unsafe. Petty crime's a little high, but that's all.

Rural communities have lower crime rates in general. That doesn't mean anything.

[Telconi]

Again I ask why not make all housing something only the rich can afford. Push all those other people out.

And ask again whether you read what is posted. Rent control doesn't fix the issue and in fact makes it worse; removing rent control results in lower rents and more housing. Rent control only benefits the wealthy as well.

So I'll ask you, why should Rich people only get houses? Why do you hate the Poor San?

Because their "Union goodies" drive up the cost of his train tickets.

[Kaggeceria]

Profit matters if you want safer communities and higher living standards, yes.

Again I ask why not make all housing something only the rich can afford. Push all those other people out.

Higher property values doesn't mean only the rich can afford them. That's a false dilema.

Gentrification is a good thing, Lumen. Embrace it.

[The Black Forrest]

Again I ask why not make all housing something only the rich can afford. Push all those other people out.

And ask again whether you read what is posted. Rent control doesn't fix the issue and in fact makes it worse; removing rent control results in lower rents and more housing. Rent control only benefits the wealthy as well.

So I'll ask you, why should Rich people only get houses? Why do you hate the Poor San?

You never answered the rent costs in your area.

Free market wont' solve it as the land is too valuable.

[San Lumen]

Again I ask why not make all housing something only the rich can afford. Push all those other people out.

And ask again whether you read what is posted. Rent control doesn't fix the issue and in fact makes it worse; removing rent control results in lower rents and more housing. Rent control only benefits the wealthy as well.

So I'll ask you, why should Rich people only get houses? Why do you hate the Poor San?

When did i say I hate the poor?

[San Lumen]

And ask again whether you read what is posted. Rent control doesn't fix the issue and in fact makes it worse; removing rent control results in lower rents and more housing. Rent control only benefits the wealthy as well.

So I'll ask you, why should Rich people only get houses? Why do you hate the Poor San?

You never answered the rent costs in your area.

Free market wont' solve it as the land is too valuable.

Therefore we should build more eyesores like 432 Park Avenue where most of the apartments aren't even occupied?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Again I ask why not make all housing something only the rich can afford. Push all those other people out.

Higher property values doesn't mean only the rich can afford them. That's a false dilema.

Gentrification is a good thing, Lumen. Embrace it.

Egh. It's neither a good thing or a bad thing, it just is. It can in fact be detrimental in other parts of the nation tho.

Right now we are seeing Californians coming to Texas and driving up the house values thru the roof because they don't understand the concept of "your dollar over here carries a third more weight than in your shithole you just came out of". Same thing in Nevada, where your dollar gets you far more than in Texas I think.

[Oil exporting People]

And ask again whether you read what is posted. Rent control doesn't fix the issue and in fact makes it worse; removing rent control results in lower rents and more housing. Rent control only benefits the wealthy as well.

So I'll ask you, why should Rich people only get houses? Why do you hate the Poor San?

When did i say I hate the poor?

By supporting Rent Control, you clearly hate the poor because that policy hurts them and benefits the wealthy. So why do you hate the Poor?

[Kaggeceria]

Higher property values doesn't mean only the rich can afford them. That's a false dilema.

Gentrification is a good thing, Lumen. Embrace it.

Egh. It's neither a good thing or a bad thing, it just is. It can in fact be detrimental in other parts of the nation tho.

Right now we are seeing Californians coming to Texas and driving up the house values thru the roof because they don't understand the concept of "your dollar over here carries a third more weight than in your shithole you just came out of".

Ugh... Californians...

[San Lumen]

When did i say I hate the poor?

By supporting Rent Control, you clearly hate the poor because that policy hurts them and benefits the wealthy. So why do you hate the Poor?

I don't hate the poor. I want people to be appeal to afford their apartments not be forced out because some greedy landlord wants more dough

[Oil exporting People]

And ask again whether you read what is posted. Rent control doesn't fix the issue and in fact makes it worse; removing rent control results in lower rents and more housing. Rent control only benefits the wealthy as well.

So I'll ask you, why should Rich people only get houses? Why do you hate the Poor San?

You never answered the rent costs in your area.

Free market wont' solve it as the land is too valuable.

Because it's irrelevant to the matter at hand; personal anecdotes do not constitute objective information, particularly when the economic research on the matter has reached the conclusion already on the policy.

[Petrasylvania]

Oh that's true. In general Cali tends to be for the things Cox is against. Reps might have had a chance with a moderate......did one even try to run?

At this point, I don't think it matters, Kashkari was a moderate, and he got soundly beaten by Jerry fucking Brown.

Wasn't he the guy who looked like Imhotep?

[Post War America]

Higher property values doesn't mean only the rich can afford them. That's a false dilema.

Gentrification is a good thing, Lumen. Embrace it.

Egh. It's neither a good thing or a bad thing, it just is. It can in fact be detrimental in other parts of the nation tho.

Right now we are seeing Californians coming to Texas and driving up the house values thru the roof because they don't understand the concept of "your dollar over here carries a third more weight than in your shithole you just came out of". Same thing in Nevada, where your dollar gets you far more than in Texas I think.

That's a trend I've noticed within my state, people moving out of Boston and driving up the cost of living in a westwardly expanding sphere of fuck the poor. It's gotten rather annoying actually.

[Northeast American Federation]

By supporting Rent Control, you clearly hate the poor because that policy hurts them and benefits the wealthy. So why do you hate the Poor?

I don't hate the poor. I want people to be appeal to afford their apartments not be forced out because some greedy landlord wants more dough

How much of it is actually the evil greedy landlord with a monacle trying to squeeze more cash out of the poor tenants and how much of it is because the landlord has increasing costs across the board and has to cover them somehow?

[Oil exporting People]

By supporting Rent Control, you clearly hate the poor because that policy hurts them and benefits the wealthy. So why do you hate the Poor?

I don't hate the poor. I want people to be appeal to afford their apartments not be forced out because some greedy landlord wants more dough

You do hate the poor because you support a policy that hurts them. Rent control hurts the poor and benefits the wealthy.

So why do you hate the poor? Why do you support greedy landlords and rich professionals looking down on peasants?

[Arlenton]

By supporting Rent Control, you clearly hate the poor because that policy hurts them and benefits the wealthy. So why do you hate the Poor?

I don't hate the poor. I want people to be appeal to afford their apartments not be forced out because some greedy landlord wants more dough

The landlord has a right to try to get more dough. If you are able to get people to pay a higher prices, then why keep your prices lower? Simple supply and command.

[Shrillland]

Again I ask why not make all housing something only the rich can afford. Push all those other people out.

Higher property values doesn't mean only the rich can afford them. That's a false dilema.

Gentrification is a good thing, Lumen. Embrace it.

Not entirely. When values go up, taxes go up, and when taxes go up to the point that the people who are already living there can't anymore, that pushes them out. So the middle class and the wealthy get nice safe communities and the poorer residents(many of whom are minorities, and I'm not accusing anyone of racism, merely stating an established fact) get thrown out onto the streets or into worse neighbourhoods.

[San Lumen]

I don't hate the poor. I want people to be appeal to afford their apartments not be forced out because some greedy landlord wants more dough

You do hate the poor because you support a policy that hurts them.Rent control hurts the poor and benefits the wealthy.
So why do you hate the poor? Why do you support greedy landlords and rich professionals looking down on peasants?

Why do we keep building luxary eyesores like 432 Park avenue and then have the audacity to wonder why there is a housing shortage? those rich professionals should have to live in average apartment like everyone else and not some supertall ugly glass box.