Thousands of Hondurans heading toward the US

[Liriena]

Which people?


Definitely not put them in concentration camps under the watch of unvetted, untrained thugs. I'd like to think that's a very low bar.


Mind rewriting that?


I'll calm down when you stop bullshitting like a toddler.

Obama did horrible shit. I know. The good news is he can't keep doing horrible shit because he's not in power anymore. Trump is. Everything that happens to immigrants from now until 2020 is Trump's responsibility, not Obama's. Bringing up Obama's wrongdoings to deflect from the fact that your immigration law enforcement under Trump is fucking barbaric is pure petulance. It's an implicit concession that what's happening is terrible, but instead of owning up to it you try to make it look acceptable by comparison, and you failed at that.

>"Which people?"
>Immediately generalizes

You're gonna have to be more explicit.

The only one acting like a toddler here is you with your crazed amount of kicking and screaming in your little echo chamber.

What "echo chamber"? I'm talking to you and we are blatantly disagreeing with one another. Do you understand what words mean?

Also, "kicking and screaming"? If tone policing is the best counter-argument you have, then I must assume I won the debate and you are just too arrogant to admit it.

I know I've got an issue with swearing but you take the whole cake. You can get your point across with writing 'fuck' every other word, you know. Otherwise why should I even take you seriously?

Again, tone policing is not a counter-argument. It's little more than a tantrum. If you can understand what I'm saying, what do you care if I'm swearing a lot while doing it?

[Harelia]

Read up.

Burden of proof is in you, not me.

No, we're full.

Prove it.

And we have no need for more entitled idiots who are barely literate in their own language.

Illiteracy is usually a sign of little education, and/or poverty. How does that make someone an entitled idiot?
Also: https://countryeconomy.com/demography/l ... e/honduras

>Definitely not put them in concentration camps under the watch of unvetted, untrained thugs. I'd like to think that's a very low bar.
>"Your parents made me do this," cries the concentration camp guard as he locks literal toddlers in cages and turns a blind eye to the sexual abuse committed by his fellow guards.

You're welcome.

[Petrasylvania]

So blatant lies?

True to form, I suppose.

No, we're full. And we have no need for more entitled idiots who are barely literate in their own language.

Yeah, there's only room for one President! :^]

[Liriena]

Burden of proof is in you, not me.

Prove it.

Illiteracy is usually a sign of little education, and/or poverty. How does that make someone an entitled idiot?
Also: https://countryeconomy.com/demography/l ... e/honduras

>Definitely not put them in concentration camps under the watch of unvetted, untrained thugs. I'd like to think that's a very low bar.
>"Your parents made me do this," cries the concentration camp guard as he locks literal toddlers in cages and turns a blind eye to the sexual abuse committed by his fellow guards.

You're welcome.

How is that a generalization?

[Kombinita Socialisma Demokratio]

This is your brain on soy.

Just more evidence that soy does not lower intelligence or ability to reason any more than food in general. Yes, I had some soy earlier today.

[Renolia]

>Definitely not put them in concentration camps under the watch of unvetted, untrained thugs. I'd like to think that's a very low bar.
>"Your parents made me do this," cries the concentration camp guard as he locks literal toddlers in cages and turns a blind eye to the sexual abuse committed by his fellow guards.

You're welcome.

How is that a generalization?

You are generalizing the security guards of these facilities as sexual abusers or those who turn a blind eye, and say they are all untrained thugs. That is generalization.

[Kaggeceria]

No, we're full. And we have no need for more entitled idiots who are barely literate in their own language.

Yeah, there's only room for one President! :^]

Oh man, I can tell you got excited for that one.

[Azurius]

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[Shofercia]

This is the fundamental problem of open borders. 220 million of Latin Americans live on less that $10 a day: https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/ ... -0028.html

When you have so many people, and open borders, of course some of them are going to be economic migrants. This is why we need border security, and to be rough near the border. I'm not saying build a wall, or separate families, that's brutal, but if you have tens of thousands of people, give them food, medicine, and turn them back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

[El-Amin Caliphate]

How is that a generalization?

You are generalizing the security guards of these facilities as sexual abusers or those who turn a blind eye, and say they are all untrained thugs. That is generalization.

How? Liri didn't say "all guards do this".

[Petrasylvania]

Yeah, there's only room for one President! :^]

Oh man, I can tell you got excited for that one.

You knew but kept on walking? Sad!

[Liriena]

How is that a generalization?

You are generalizing the security guards of these facilities as sexual abusers or those who turn a blind eye, and say they are all untrained thugs. That is generalization.

It's not a generalization to acknowledge that abuse is rampant in immigration law enforcement, that training is minimal and inadequate, and that accountability is practically inexistent. This is not a statement regarding the characters of all concentration camp guards (although I sure would love to delve into that too), but on the deep rot in the institutions they serve.

[Azurius]

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[Renolia]

You are generalizing the security guards of these facilities as sexual abusers or those who turn a blind eye, and say they are all untrained thugs. That is generalization.

How? Liri didn't say "all guards do this".

You'll have to go back for context, it is definitely implied.

[El-Amin Caliphate]

Forget it, I see you right-wingers will cry and whine so long and waste more of my time.

Excuse me? I'm a right-winger and I haven't done any of that.

[Ifreann]

Maybe they won't. Maybe all the requests for asylum will be denied. And maybe you'll imagine that that means that you were right, that real refugees would stay as close as possible to whatever they were fleeing, and only bad people try to go to where they think they can make the best possible life for themselves. And you'll still be obviously wrong.

I mean... what qualifies as close? Being in a different doesn't seem that close. I hear Mexico and Guatemala are lovely this time of year.

You think being in another country means being far away? I could drive to another country in two hours.

Just four agents to every person, how ever will they cope?

And full marks for the scare quotes. What are you even trying to imply? That they aren't migrants? They're moving from one country to another. That makes them migrants, no matter their reasons.

I doubt all 46,000 of them will be there. There are other areas to the border, you know. It's kind of big.

I doubt they'll need that many.

You know, I'm not sure. I hear putting kids in concentration camps is a popular policy these days.

If only.

Maybe watch the news. I know the big guy says it's fake, but he's full of shit.

[Kombinita Socialisma Demokratio]

Why is everyone more concerned about red tape than actually helping people who have a lower quality of life when it is not even their fault?

Because it's not our job to help those people.

But apparently your job is to argue with people who wish to help those people, in an effort to prevent anyone from helping the migrants?

[The South Falls]

This is the fundamental problem of open borders. 220 million of Latin Americans live on less that $10 a day: https://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/ ... -0028.html

When you have so many people, and open borders, of course some of them are going to be economic migrants. This is why we need border security, and to be rough near the border. I'm not saying build a wall, or separate families, that's brutal, but if you have tens of thousands of people, give them food, medicine, and turn them back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE

I'd like to say that almost no one is advocating for open borders. Processing those who decide to come to our border, in the process determining who stays and who goes, is a good idea.

[Azurius]

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[Conserative Morality]

1: No one ever said anything about CIA, FBI or NSA. Nice strawman. Sheesh you people from the far-right really have nothing else do you?

2: I am tired of repeating myself, plus, I quoted and sourced everything for right-wing liars like you to read. Fact remains you not only let it happen, breached certain laws by doing so, but also in fact actively support that regime with weapons and money as I also quoted from the sources.

Now pack in your lies and strawmans and bother other people with it.

Speaking as a left-wing liberal cuck, Uxupox will listen if you give him data. What you're presenting right now isn't particularly strong.

[Harelia]

Because it's not our job to help those people.

It´s not your place to fuck them up and support their dictatorial regimes either, and yet, you did. Now take responsibility for your vile actions.

Again, how?

[Kaggeceria]

I mean... what qualifies as close? Being in a different doesn't seem that close. I hear Mexico and Guatemala are lovely this time of year.

You think being in another country means being far away? I could drive to another country in two hours.

I think it means that whatever's going on in that country won't affect you nearly as much since, you know, they'll be in another country.

I doubt all 46,000 of them will be there. There are other areas to the border, you know. It's kind of big.

I doubt they'll need that many.

Your doubt isn't doing that much for me.

If only.

Maybe watch the news. I know the big guy says it's fake, but he's full of shit.

Really? How exciting. Maybe they can give the kids bubble wrap to play with.

[Renolia]

It´s not your place to fuck them up and support their dictatorial regimes either, and yet, you did. Now take responsibility for your vile actions.

Again, how?

You asked how, now he's gonna link you another Wikipedia article. Prepare.

[Harelia]

Because it's not our job to help those people.

But apparently your job is to argue with people who wish to help those people, in an effort to prevent anyone from helping the migrants?

I'm not arguing with people who wish to help those people.

I also wish to help those people and I'm PRETTY sure most other people here agree to the same thing.

[Azurius]

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