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Postby Mystic Warriors » Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:10 pm

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You support it and try. Unless you deny the right lies about and deamonizes the left. Remember that guy in Minnesota running for attorney general? Yeah, he wants to fire all Democrats.


I do?


The right does.
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Postby Chestaan » Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:11 pm

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But then what would be the dominant ideology? Whatever it is that Clinton espouses, or more like Sanders? Either way would require some sort of purge of the other side.



How about neither?


What is the dominant non-fractured ideology going to be then?
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Postby Telconi » Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:11 pm

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I do?


The right does.


Got some of them facts?
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Postby Mystic Warriors » Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:16 pm

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How about neither?


What is the dominant non-fractured ideology going to be then?



Hillary is a centrist and Sanders doesn't even know what Socialism is, so the person isnt known yet. Democratic Socialist, but the Democrats lack vocal ones
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Postby Chestaan » Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:19 pm

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What is the dominant non-fractured ideology going to be then?



Hillary is a centrist and Sanders doesn't even know what Socialism is, so the person isnt known yet. Democratic Socialist, but the Democrats lack vocal ones


You just said about five posts ago that it wouldn't be anti-capitalist... Progressive may mean anti-capitalist but socialist sure does, democratic or not.
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Postby Mystic Warriors » Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:21 pm

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Hillary is a centrist and Sanders doesn't even know what Socialism is, so the person isnt known yet. Democratic Socialist, but the Democrats lack vocal ones


You just said about five posts ago that it wouldn't be anti-capitalist... Progressive may mean anti-capitalist but socialist sure does, democratic or not.




I said progressive doesnt equal anti capitalism. I also said Democratic Socialist, a mixed economy. Stay with me.
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Postby Telconi » Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:28 pm

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You just said about five posts ago that it wouldn't be anti-capitalist... Progressive may mean anti-capitalist but socialist sure does, democratic or not.




I said progressive doesnt equal anti capitalism. I also said Democratic Socialist, a mixed economy. Stay with me.


Democratic Socialism isn't a mixed economy...
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Postby Shofercia » Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:41 pm

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Shofercia wrote:Still waiting for proof of that Russia Collusion from Trump... buffering... loading...


So 'Clintonites' (which appears to be the entire democrat party) invented allegations of Russian collusion as revenge? There's no reason to suspect it's true? Presumably the connections between his campaign/family and Russians, his bizarre support of Russia and his decision to fire Comey for investigating Russian interference were also fabricated?

You can claim they're latching onto it as a form of revenge but the concerns are justified by Trumps own actions and dismissing it just seems silly.


Clintonites are not the entire Democratic Party. To continue to keep pretending that there was some mythical collusion, when Mueller failed to find it for two years, is silly. The Democrats love chanting that Trump supports Russia, but thus far the only example was Trump misspeaking at a press conference. Wow, Trump misspoke, when has that ever happened? At least once a week? Collusion! Regarding Comey:

He also stated that dismissing Comey relieved unnecessary pressure on his ability to engage and negotiate with Russia, due to Comey's "grandstanding and politicizing" the investigation.[12][13] Trump was reportedly "enormously frustrated" that Comey would not publicly confirm that the president was not personally under investigation.[14] After his dismissal, Comey publicly testified to the Congress that he told Trump, on three occasions, that he was not personally under investigation in the counterintelligence probe.[15]


Yes, it's wikipedia, but it's also well cited. Comey decided to be a jackass, and Trump showed that he was a bigger jackass.
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Postby Shofercia » Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:48 pm

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And look how well that worked out. The blue dogs were annihilated in 2010, proving a lesson that the Democratic Party still hasn't learned 8 years later, that when given a choice between Republican and Republican Lite, voters will always go Republican.



The Democrats need to go full progressive. A real left wing party and stand together.


Instead they'll fail to provide enough resources to Gillium, in order to teach him a lesson, and DeSantis will pick up Florida's Governorship.


Mystic Warriors wrote:
Chestaan wrote:
What is the dominant non-fractured ideology going to be then?



Hillary is a centrist and Sanders doesn't even know what Socialism is, so the person isnt known yet. Democratic Socialist, but the Democrats lack vocal ones


Hillary is a centrist? So TPP was secretly a centrist treaty?
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:51 pm

Mystic Warriors wrote:
Chestaan wrote:
What is the dominant non-fractured ideology going to be then?



Hillary is a centrist and Sanders doesn't even know what Socialism is, so the person isnt known yet. Democratic Socialist, but the Democrats lack vocal ones


Hillary? A centrist?

She is basically the modern-day equivalent of the bloody Business Plot.

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Postby Petrasylvania » Sat Oct 20, 2018 4:59 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Mystic Warriors wrote:

Hillary is a centrist and Sanders doesn't even know what Socialism is, so the person isnt known yet. Democratic Socialist, but the Democrats lack vocal ones


Hillary? A centrist?

She is basically the modern-day equivalent of the bloody Business Plot.

And Donnie is clearly anti-business.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:21 pm

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Hillary? A centrist?

She is basically the modern-day equivalent of the bloody Business Plot.

And Donnie is clearly anti-business.

Tu quoque.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:22 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
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Hillary? A centrist?

She is basically the modern-day equivalent of the bloody Business Plot.

And Donnie is clearly anti-business.


Donald Trump is certainly...flamboyant and unorthodox, but when it comes to actual politics, he comes nowhere close to Hillary's shade.

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Postby Petrasylvania » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:23 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:And Donnie is clearly anti-business.

Tu quoque.

Only if he really is Donald Trump. ;^]
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Postby Mattopilos II » Sat Oct 20, 2018 5:57 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Mattopilos II wrote:Imagine thinking this is exclusively a “left” position and that deplatforming dipshits is bad. I will strike one up on my tally of “people who unironically use ‘the left’” for you though.


The facade of the many are changed by the actions of the few.

Your extremists, regardless of how few they are, have effectively ruined your image.

And I bet you think I'm a conservative, but yikes, I'm not!


I ain't left, but nuance seems to be something you fail at.
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Postby Western Vale Confederacy » Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:02 pm

Mattopilos II wrote:
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The facade of the many are changed by the actions of the few.

Your extremists, regardless of how few they are, have effectively ruined your image.

And I bet you think I'm a conservative, but yikes, I'm not!


I ain't left, but nuance seems to be something you fail at.


I am very much aware I struggle with the notion of nuance.

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Postby Mystic Warriors » Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:08 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Mystic Warriors wrote:

Hillary is a centrist and Sanders doesn't even know what Socialism is, so the person isnt known yet. Democratic Socialist, but the Democrats lack vocal ones


Hillary? A centrist?

She is basically the modern-day equivalent of the bloody Business Plot.



She is a centrist.
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Postby Mystic Warriors » Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:09 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:And Donnie is clearly anti-business.


Donald Trump is certainly...flamboyant and unorthodox, but when it comes to actual politics, he comes nowhere close to Hillary's shade.



He is way worse, dont let right wing propaganda trick you
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Postby Uxupox » Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:29 pm

Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:And Donnie is clearly anti-business.


Donald Trump is certainly...flamboyant and unorthodox, but when it comes to actual politics, he comes nowhere close to Hillary's shade.


Trump honestely needs to stop talking so much about the previous president. It gets aggravating.


Mystic Warriors wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Hillary? A centrist?

She is basically the modern-day equivalent of the bloody Business Plot.



She is a centrist.


Hillary isn't a centrist from an American political view.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:30 pm

Mystic Warriors wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Donald Trump is certainly...flamboyant and unorthodox, but when it comes to actual politics, he comes nowhere close to Hillary's shade.



He us way worse, dont let right wing propaganda trick you

My paycheck isn't tricking me.
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Postby Mystic Warriors » Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:34 pm

Uxupox wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Donald Trump is certainly...flamboyant and unorthodox, but when it comes to actual politics, he comes nowhere close to Hillary's shade.


Trump honestely needs to stop talking so much about the previous president. It gets aggravating.


Mystic Warriors wrote:

She is a centrist.


Hillary isn't a centrist from an American political view.



Yes she is.
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Postby Telconi » Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:35 pm

Mystic Warriors wrote:
Western Vale Confederacy wrote:
Donald Trump is certainly...flamboyant and unorthodox, but when it comes to actual politics, he comes nowhere close to Hillary's shade.



He is way worse, dont let right wing propaganda trick you


No he isn't, don't let left wing propaganda trick you! :roll:
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Postby Mystic Warriors » Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:36 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Mystic Warriors wrote:

He is way worse, dont let right wing propaganda trick you

My paycheck isn't tricking me.


Lol

Same old tired lines. False too
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Postby Northern Davincia » Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:44 pm

Mystic Warriors wrote:
Northern Davincia wrote:My paycheck isn't tricking me.


Lol

Same old tired lines. False too

Elaborate.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Oct 20, 2018 8:12 pm

Northern Davincia wrote:
Mystic Warriors wrote:

He us way worse, dont let right wing propaganda trick you

My paycheck isn't tricking me.


Meh. Mine allows for may an extra 6 pack of beer. Not high end though.
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