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by Petrasylvania » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:10 pm

by Washington Resistance Army » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:11 pm
Petrasylvania wrote:Kaggeceria wrote:This never happened. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.
Tell me more about how the poor Democrats are so victimized and have never played dirty, sweetheart.
I believe you have your own set of alternative facts.
Okay, let's take a look.
Federal judgeship nominations were outright denied hearings during 2001-2003, I'll give that to you. Dick moves.
But as for the rest including Supreme Court nominations...
Filibusters. Made during confirmation hearings that were actually held.
Filibusters. Like the Republicans were more than happy to use for Obama's judicial nominees until they one day decided the Uppity Kenyan didn't even deserve that much and denied Merrick Garland a confirmation hearing.

by Petrasylvania » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:11 pm
NS Miami Shores wrote:Petrasylvania wrote:Get a room.
7. The AFL-CIO union vowed to block then-President Ronald Reagan’s nominee Robert Bork by soiling his public reputation so badly that any Democratic senator who voted in favor of confirming him would have to explain it to his constituents. Kennedy continued this line of rhetoric in a well-known floor speech. He infamously said:
http://thefederalist.com/2016/02/16/10- ... -nominees/

by Petrasylvania » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:12 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Petrasylvania wrote:Okay, let's take a look.
Federal judgeship nominations were outright denied hearings during 2001-2003, I'll give that to you. Dick moves.
But as for the rest including Supreme Court nominations...
Filibusters. Made during confirmation hearings that were actually held.
Filibusters. Like the Republicans were more than happy to use for Obama's judicial nominees until they one day decided the Uppity Kenyan didn't even deserve that much and denied Merrick Garland a confirmation hearing.
What're your thoughts on Schumer saying he wouldn't confirm a Bush nominee to SCOTUS if one were to occur except under "extraordinary circumstances"?
This also happened more than a year before the election in 2008. Seems like McConnel just gave Schumer a taste of his own medicine lol

by Washington Resistance Army » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:13 pm
Petrasylvania wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:
What're your thoughts on Schumer saying he wouldn't confirm a Bush nominee to SCOTUS if one were to occur except under "extraordinary circumstances"?
This also happened more than a year before the election in 2008. Seems like McConnel just gave Schumer a taste of his own medicine lol
One vote, and plenty of Bush nominees got in soo... Bothsideism?

by Kaggeceria » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:13 pm

by Petrasylvania » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:14 pm

by Petrasylvania » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:15 pm
Kaggeceria wrote:Petrasylvania wrote:How does it feel to celebrate over an internet debate like you won the Super Bowl?
I'm not celebrating anything. I just want you to get it through your fucking skull that the Democrats aren't victims and have always played dirty. They got a taste of their own medicine and now they're pissy about it, and you're a perfect representation of that.

by Washington Resistance Army » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:17 pm

by Kaggeceria » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:17 pm
Petrasylvania wrote:Kaggeceria wrote:I'm not celebrating anything. I just want you to get it through your fucking skull that the Democrats aren't victims and have always played dirty. They got a taste of their own medicine and now they're pissy about it, and you're a perfect representation of that.
And we go back to the original point, that it's fucking rich to expect solely the Democrats to behave when the Republicans proved being an asshole is rewarding.

by Petrasylvania » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:18 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Petrasylvania wrote:And which Republican Supreme Court nominee was denied a confirmation hearing hmm? :^]
Thankfully none because a spot didn't open, but your side was quite open that they were going to do what McConnel did if one did :^]
So I ask again Gauth, how do you feel about that?

by Kaggeceria » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:19 pm
Petrasylvania wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Thankfully none because a spot didn't open, but your side was quite open that they were going to do what McConnel did if one did :^]
So I ask again Gauth, how do you feel about that?
Talking about a hypothetical is just as bad as actually doing it. Ah.

by Petrasylvania » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:19 pm
Kaggeceria wrote:Petrasylvania wrote:And we go back to the original point, that it's fucking rich to expect solely the Democrats to behave when the Republicans proved being an asshole is rewarding.
I don't expect them to behave at all. My point (which you conveniently glossed over again) is that they started the trend of blocking judicial nominees purely on ideological grounds, and now you bitch incessantly when the Republicans beat them at their own game.
Get over it. Your side has never played fair.

by Petrasylvania » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:20 pm

by Kaggeceria » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:21 pm
Petrasylvania wrote:Kaggeceria wrote:I don't expect them to behave at all. My point (which you conveniently glossed over again) is that they started the trend of blocking judicial nominees purely on ideological grounds, and now you bitch incessantly when the Republicans beat them at their own game.
Get over it. Your side has never played fair.
And you expect them to play fair when the Republicans are happy to be dirty at the drop of a dime? Yeah, big surprise.
Kaggeceria wrote:Petrasylvania wrote:And we go back to the original point, that it's fucking rich to expect solely the Democrats to behave when the Republicans proved being an asshole is rewarding.
I don't expect them to behave at all. My point (which you conveniently glossed over again) is that they started the trend of blocking judicial nominees purely on ideological grounds, and now you bitch incessantly when the Republicans beat them at their own game.
Get over it. Your side has never played fair.

by Kaggeceria » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:21 pm

by Shofercia » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:21 pm

by NS Miami Shores » Thu Oct 18, 2018 2:31 pm
Petrasylvania wrote:NS Miami Shores wrote:7. The AFL-CIO union vowed to block then-President Ronald Reagan’s nominee Robert Bork by soiling his public reputation so badly that any Democratic senator who voted in favor of confirming him would have to explain it to his constituents. Kennedy continued this line of rhetoric in a well-known floor speech. He infamously said:
http://thefederalist.com/2016/02/16/10- ... -nominees/
Bork still got a confirmation hearing Alberto.

by Chestaan » Thu Oct 18, 2018 4:46 pm

by Kubra » Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:17 pm
I mean

by The Serbian Empire » Thu Oct 18, 2018 5:21 pm
Chestaan wrote:The Democrats problems are far more systemic than the Kavanaugh issue. Their position as defenders of the status quo and inability to appeal to the actual problems being faced by ordinary people are far more important issues.

by Major-Tom » Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:04 pm
Chestaan wrote:The Democrats problems are far more systemic than the Kavanaugh issue. Their position as defenders of the status quo and inability to appeal to the actual problems being faced by ordinary people are far more important issues.

by Major-Tom » Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:05 pm
Shofercia wrote:And now, let's talk about the key races:
McSally v Sinema - Sinema was winning, but now McSally has a slight lead. Green party's also running in Arizona, and that'll hurt Sinema. Up in Florida, Rick Scott has taken the lead, but it's within the margin of error. Florida... within the margin of error... the more things change, they more they stay the same. Nevada's still too close to call, and heavily depends on turnout. In Texas the Kavanaugh hearings put Ted Cruz over 50%. Ouch. In Tenneesee, Blackburn enjoys a comfortable lead. North Dakota's looking more and more like a Republican pick up. In Missouri, Hawley's picking up steam.
Have the Brett Kavanaugh hearings backfired on the left?
In the Senate - yep. RCP's House map has 31 toss ups, as the Democrats lead the Republicans 206-198. If Republicans can win 20/31 toss ups, (quite possible,) Republicans can retain the House.
Have the Brett Kavanaugh hearings backfired on the left?
In the House - we'll see in November. But if Republicans win 218 or more House seats, then yes, yes they have.

by The Serbian Empire » Thu Oct 18, 2018 6:35 pm
Major-Tom wrote:Shofercia wrote:And now, let's talk about the key races:
McSally v Sinema - Sinema was winning, but now McSally has a slight lead. Green party's also running in Arizona, and that'll hurt Sinema. Up in Florida, Rick Scott has taken the lead, but it's within the margin of error. Florida... within the margin of error... the more things change, they more they stay the same. Nevada's still too close to call, and heavily depends on turnout. In Texas the Kavanaugh hearings put Ted Cruz over 50%. Ouch. In Tenneesee, Blackburn enjoys a comfortable lead. North Dakota's looking more and more like a Republican pick up. In Missouri, Hawley's picking up steam.
Have the Brett Kavanaugh hearings backfired on the left?
In the Senate - yep. RCP's House map has 31 toss ups, as the Democrats lead the Republicans 206-198. If Republicans can win 20/31 toss ups, (quite possible,) Republicans can retain the House.
Have the Brett Kavanaugh hearings backfired on the left?
In the House - we'll see in November. But if Republicans win 218 or more House seats, then yes, yes they have.
Democrats skeptical of Sinema will likely come back to the Sinema camp. The stakes are too high. That's what I hope for, at least. I'm more confident about Sinema's chances than I am Rosen's, Nelson's, O'Rourke's and Bredesen's.

by The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Oct 18, 2018 7:11 pm
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