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[Telconi]

Other than my post, my post was about Vassenor's critique of identity politics.

identity politics

A dog whistle used by brocialists to attack any member of a minority group who gets above themselves by disagreeing with them.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Other than my post, my post was about Vassenor's critique of identity politics.

identity politics

A dog whistle used by brocialists to attack any member of a minority group who gets above themselves by disagreeing with them.

What dictionary are you getting that from? Urban Dictionary?

Wait, yeah it's Urban Dictionary. In fact it's actually not even the first.

Come back with a real dictionary.

[Washington Resistance Army]

What dictionary are you getting that from? Urban Dictionary?

Wait, yeah it's Urban Dictionary. In fact it's actually not even the first.

Come back with a real dictionary.

But that wouldn't fit the agenda : ^ (

[Petrasylvania]

The only time the right brings up identity politics is when the Dems are campaigning to minority groups. :^]

[Telconi]

The only time the right brings up identity politics is when the Dems are campaigning to minority groups. :^]

Sure thing Gauth.

[Proctopeo]

This.
The Electoral College does work for its intended purpose, and it does work overall. The UNHRC doesn't really... do anything?

You weren't just talking about the UNHRC though were you Mr. "I don't respect the Security Council" lol

The topic was the UNHRC, that was a mere response to a tangent.

This.
The Electoral College does work for its intended purpose, and it does work overall. The UNHRC doesn't really... do anything? Except for sending more strongly-worded letters to Israel, which isn't really helping anyone nor accomplishing anything.
Other parts of the UN at least do things, even if they don't do them very well.


It does function.

function: fulfill the purpose or task of (a specified thing)

And what intended task would that be, and how is it -actually- fulfilling that? As in not just "well it feels like it's working because it's doing what I want".

To achieve a compromise between state-based and population-based government. The House of Representatives is based on population, while the Senate is based off of statehood itself. The EC was intended as a compromise between these two concepts, while being (mostly) independent from the Legislature itself. This is, after all, why the electors assigned to each state are their number of Representatives in the House plus two for their two senators, flooring the number of electors a state can have at three, which means every state has at least a little bit of importance in the election.

[Tobleste]

You weren't just talking about the UNHRC though were you Mr. "I don't respect the Security Council" lol

The topic was the UNHRC, that was a mere response to a tangent.

And what intended task would that be, and how is it -actually- fulfilling that? As in not just "well it feels like it's working because it's doing what I want".

To achieve a compromise between state-based and population-based government. The House of Representatives is based on population, while the Senate is based off of statehood itself. The EC was intended as a compromise between these two concepts, while being (mostly) independent from the Legislature itself. This is, after all, why the electors assigned to each state are their number of Representatives in the House plus two for their two senators, flooring the number of electors a state can have at three, which means every state has at least a little bit of importance in the election.

To be fair, the House does a crap job of representing the population. Afaik, dems need to win the House vote by 6-7% to actually win the House.

Wrt the electoral college, I actually get it but the state's votes should be distributed proportionally (e.g. 33% of the vote in a 3 EC vote state gives 1 vote) It makes no sense that losing a state by .1% gives as many EC votes as losing it by 100%.

[Telconi]

The topic was the UNHRC, that was a mere response to a tangent.


To achieve a compromise between state-based and population-based government. The House of Representatives is based on population, while the Senate is based off of statehood itself. The EC was intended as a compromise between these two concepts, while being (mostly) independent from the Legislature itself. This is, after all, why the electors assigned to each state are their number of Representatives in the House plus two for their two senators, flooring the number of electors a state can have at three, which means every state has at least a little bit of importance in the election.

To be fair, the House does a crap job of representing the population. Afaik, dems need to win the House vote by 6-7% to actually win the House.

Wrt the electoral college, I actually get it but the state's votes should be distributed proportionally (e.g. 33% of the vote in a 3 EC vote state gives 1 vote) It makes no sense that losing a state by .1% gives as many EC votes as losing it by 100%.

That holds true for plenty of other races tho.

[Vassenor]

Also,

>Saudi Arabia

>Beacon of Progress

[Proctopeo]

Also,

>Saudi Arabia

>Beacon of Progress

I'm glad you decided to side against the UNHRC, Vass.

[Chan Island]

Remember when the Donald said that the world was laughing at America?

https://www.theatlantic.com/internation ... e-atlantic

Everyone’s got their own recurring nightmare—naked in class, teeth falling out, whatever. For Donald Trump, that nightmare is that the world is laughing at the United States, and on Tuesday at the United Nations General Assembly, the nightmare came true.

The president’s public remarks are littered with warnings that America is, or might be, the butt of the globe’s jokes.

I think you can guess where this is going.

“In less than two years, my administration has accomplished more than almost any other administration in the history of our country. So true,” Trump told the UNGA on Tuesday morning. It’s a standard Trump line, which he usually delivers in front of two primary audiences: supporters who believe it, and reporters who just scoff and shake their head, knowing it’s not true.


The delegates at the UN were neither so supportive nor so jaded, and they openly laughed at him. Trump rolled with it. “Didn’t expect that reaction, but that’s okay,” he said, eliciting another round of chortling. Still, the reaction had to sting.

Thoughts?

[San Lumen]

Remember when the Donald said that the world was laughing at America?

https://www.theatlantic.com/internation ... e-atlantic

Everyone’s got their own recurring nightmare—naked in class, teeth falling out, whatever. For Donald Trump, that nightmare is that the world is laughing at the United States, and on Tuesday at the United Nations General Assembly, the nightmare came true.

The president’s public remarks are littered with warnings that America is, or might be, the butt of the globe’s jokes.

I think you can guess where this is going.

“In less than two years, my administration has accomplished more than almost any other administration in the history of our country. So true,” Trump told the UNGA on Tuesday morning. It’s a standard Trump line, which he usually delivers in front of two primary audiences: supporters who believe it, and reporters who just scoff and shake their head, knowing it’s not true.


The delegates at the UN were neither so supportive nor so jaded, and they openly laughed at him. Trump rolled with it. “Didn’t expect that reaction, but that’s okay,” he said, eliciting another round of chortling. Still, the reaction had to sting.

Thoughts?

Is pathetic how he makes everything about him. A speech to the UN is not used to tout your supposed accomplishments

[Geneviev]

Remember when the Donald said that the world was laughing at America?

https://www.theatlantic.com/internation ... e-atlantic

Everyone’s got their own recurring nightmare—naked in class, teeth falling out, whatever. For Donald Trump, that nightmare is that the world is laughing at the United States, and on Tuesday at the United Nations General Assembly, the nightmare came true.

The president’s public remarks are littered with warnings that America is, or might be, the butt of the globe’s jokes.

I think you can guess where this is going.

“In less than two years, my administration has accomplished more than almost any other administration in the history of our country. So true,” Trump told the UNGA on Tuesday morning. It’s a standard Trump line, which he usually delivers in front of two primary audiences: supporters who believe it, and reporters who just scoff and shake their head, knowing it’s not true.


The delegates at the UN were neither so supportive nor so jaded, and they openly laughed at him. Trump rolled with it. “Didn’t expect that reaction, but that’s okay,” he said, eliciting another round of chortling. Still, the reaction had to sting.

Thoughts?

The world has been laughing at America since 2016. Nice that the president is aware of that now.

[Proctopeo]

Remember when the Donald said that the world was laughing at America?

https://www.theatlantic.com/internation ... e-atlantic



I think you can guess where this is going.



Thoughts?

The world has been laughing at America since 2016. Nice that the president is aware of that now.

Glad they've finally caught up, we've been laughing at the world for quite a long time beforehand

[Valrifell]

The topic was the UNHRC, that was a mere response to a tangent.


To achieve a compromise between state-based and population-based government. The House of Representatives is based on population, while the Senate is based off of statehood itself. The EC was intended as a compromise between these two concepts, while being (mostly) independent from the Legislature itself. This is, after all, why the electors assigned to each state are their number of Representatives in the House plus two for their two senators, flooring the number of electors a state can have at three, which means every state has at least a little bit of importance in the election.

To be fair, the House does a crap job of representing the population. Afaik, dems need to win the House vote by 6-7% to actually win the House.

Wrt the electoral college, I actually get it but the state's votes should be distributed proportionally (e.g. 33% of the vote in a 3 EC vote state gives 1 vote) It makes no sense that losing a state by .1% gives as many EC votes as losing it by 100%.

That doesn't really help for states with small electoral votes. Let's multiply them all by 12 and then split them proportionally.

[Petrasylvania]

Also,

>Saudi Arabia

>Beacon of Progress

I'm glad you decided to side against the UNHRC, Vass.

[Mardla]

Remember when the Donald said that the world was laughing at America?

https://www.theatlantic.com/internation ... e-atlantic



I think you can guess where this is going.



Thoughts?

The world has been laughing at America since 2016. Nice that the president is aware of that now.

Europe, you mean, and the feeling is mutual

[Farnhamia]

Remember when the Donald said that the world was laughing at America?

https://www.theatlantic.com/internation ... e-atlantic

Everyone’s got their own recurring nightmare—naked in class, teeth falling out, whatever. For Donald Trump, that nightmare is that the world is laughing at the United States, and on Tuesday at the United Nations General Assembly, the nightmare came true.

The president’s public remarks are littered with warnings that America is, or might be, the butt of the globe’s jokes.

I think you can guess where this is going.

“In less than two years, my administration has accomplished more than almost any other administration in the history of our country. So true,” Trump told the UNGA on Tuesday morning. It’s a standard Trump line, which he usually delivers in front of two primary audiences: supporters who believe it, and reporters who just scoff and shake their head, knowing it’s not true.


The delegates at the UN were neither so supportive nor so jaded, and they openly laughed at him. Trump rolled with it. “Didn’t expect that reaction, but that’s okay,” he said, eliciting another round of chortling. Still, the reaction had to sting.

Thoughts?

The author there got it wrong, really. Trump's worst nightmare is that people are laughing at him. He cares for the United States only insofar as it reflects his success, his greatness. His rolling with it only shows that he can actually master his temper in a public venue. I would not want to be on Air Force One on the flight back to DC and have to handle a raging Trump. *shrug* I could be wrong, maybe he didn't care about the laughs in the audience. We'll see what the tweetosphere shows in the next couple of days.

[Proctopeo]

I'm glad you decided to side against the UNHRC, Vass.

That's Trump secretly stealing the power of the Saudis while leaving their despotism, strengthening the republic while weakening their monarchy.
Probably.

[Farnhamia]

That's Trump secretly stealing the power of the Saudis while leaving their despotism, strengthening the republic while weakening their monarchy.
Probably.

Maybe, like the palantir of Minas Tirith, only people of great strength would see in it anything other than two flaming withered hands.

[Uxupox]

Really if you're joining the military you better fucking be joining the navy or the air force, and even then you better be joining it for access to otherwise incredibly expensive job training. Dude I know who went into the navy ended up becoming a radiology assistant

Lucky bastard
I was dumb enough to go infantry

lol

[Petrasylvania]

Remember when the Donald said that the world was laughing at America?

https://www.theatlantic.com/internation ... e-atlantic



I think you can guess where this is going.



Thoughts?

The author there got it wrong, really. Trump's worst nightmare is that people are laughing at him. He cares for the United States only insofar as it reflects his success, his greatness. His rolling with it only shows that he can actually master his temper in a public venue. I would not want to be on Air Force One on the flight back to DC and have to handle a raging Trump. *shrug* I could be wrong, maybe he didn't care about the laughs in the audience. We'll see what the tweetosphere shows in the next couple of days.

Stormy Daniels guaranteed people are laughing at him. But he's so self-absorbed and oblivious the only way he can grasp it is someone wearing a Toad hat.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

The world has been laughing at America since 2016. Nice that the president is aware of that now.

Europe, you mean, and the feeling is mutual

You can’t have the joke and eat it, too.

Also,

>Saudi Arabia

>Beacon of Progress

I'm glad you decided to side against the UNHRC, Vass.

Saudi Arabia is just a member of the UNHCR, not its sole leader. Being on the UNHCR does not absolve a country of criticism, and the UNHCR has criticised them a lot over the past few years. Here is just one example:

https://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pag ... 0&LangID=E

Members of the Council are selected by a secret ballot vote by the UN General Assembly, and decisions within the Council are also taken by a vote, Saudi Arabia just having one. They were once elected to head the Advisory Panel, but there again they have just one vote, despite leading proceedings. It is not ideal, but having Saudi Arabia as a voting member doesn’t discount the entire body. They have done some very good work over the years, and their reports are invaluable in the international fight for human rights.

[Tobleste]

Saudi Arabia is just a member of the UNHCR, not its sole leader. Being on the UNHCR does not absolve a country of criticism, and the UNHCR has criticised them a lot over the past few years. Here is just one example:

https://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pag ... 0&LangID=E

Members of the Council are selected by a secret ballot vote by the UN General Assembly, and decisions within the Council are also taken by a vote, Saudi Arabia just having one. They were once elected to head the Advisory Panel, but there again they have just one vote, despite leading proceedings. It is not ideal, but having Saudi Arabia as a voting member doesn’t discount the entire body. They have done some very good work over the years, and their reports are invaluable in the international fight for human rights.

Good post.

Unfortunately, some seem to think that unless it can invade a country, it's useless. Ironically, they're usually the same people who object to the UN in the first place. The main reasons for America dropping out are:

1. Trump and human rights don't mix well.
2. Trump and international co-operation don't mix well.
3. Trump and anything Obama did doesn't mix well.

[Sovaal]

Remember when the Donald said that the world was laughing at America?

https://www.theatlantic.com/internation ... e-atlantic

Everyone’s got their own recurring nightmare—naked in class, teeth falling out, whatever. For Donald Trump, that nightmare is that the world is laughing at the United States, and on Tuesday at the United Nations General Assembly, the nightmare came true.

The president’s public remarks are littered with warnings that America is, or might be, the butt of the globe’s jokes.

I think you can guess where this is going.

“In less than two years, my administration has accomplished more than almost any other administration in the history of our country. So true,” Trump told the UNGA on Tuesday morning. It’s a standard Trump line, which he usually delivers in front of two primary audiences: supporters who believe it, and reporters who just scoff and shake their head, knowing it’s not true.


The delegates at the UN were neither so supportive nor so jaded, and they openly laughed at him. Trump rolled with it. “Didn’t expect that reaction, but that’s okay,” he said, eliciting another round of chortling. Still, the reaction had to sting.

Thoughts?

The world has always laughed at America, and America never cared.