US Midterm Election Megathread II: The Stretch Run Begins

[Corrian]

Whatever happened to innocent till proven quilty?

Doesn't seem to matter when it involves Republicans

[Northern Davincia]

Whatever happened to innocent till proven quilty?

Doesn't seem to matter when it involves Republicans

That is true, but not for the reasons you might expect.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Whatever happened to innocent till proven quilty?

That only applies to the courts.

[San Lumen]

Whatever happened to innocent till proven quilty?

That only applies to the courts.

It should apply outside too

[Washington Resistance Army]

That only applies to the courts.

It should apply outside too

Why?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Since this was brought up a while back, I-1639 here in WA was indeed booted off the ballot by the courts.

[Shrillland]

Since this was brought up a while back, I-1639 here in WA was indeed booted off the ballot by the courts.

By the Court of Appeals, yes. It'll go to the State Supreme Court in a week and a half. I'll remove it for now and wait just as I'm doing with the Greyhound amendment in Florida.

[Collatis]

So.... The usual midterm?

No.... The unusual midterm. Trump’s says he’s gonna visit all 50 states. OTOH, that’s probably just another one of his lies.

Let’s hope it turns out as poorly as Nixon’s visit to all 50 states.

[Jerzylvania]

No.... The unusual midterm. Trump’s says he’s gonna visit all 50 states. OTOH, that’s probably just another one of his lies.

Let’s hope it turns out as poorly as Nixon’s visit to all 50 states.

Trump wears a little bracelet with WWND on it.

[Shrillland]

Let’s hope it turns out as poorly as Nixon’s visit to all 50 states.

Trump wears a little bracelet with WWND on it.

If that was the case, Trump wouldn't have done 1/2,811th of the things he has done. Truth be told, Nixon wasn't that bad if you take Watergate out of the equation.

[Petrasylvania]

Trump wears a little bracelet with WWND on it.

If that was the case, Trump wouldn't have done 1/2,811th of the things he has done. Truth be told, Nixon wasn't that bad if you take Watergate out of the equation.

Nixon created the EPA, for instance.

[Jerzylvania]

Trump wears a little bracelet with WWND on it.

If that was the case, Trump wouldn't have done 1/2,811th of the things he has done. Truth be told, Nixon wasn't that bad if you take Watergate out of the equation.

Nixon was truly schizoid. Good Nixon and Bad Nixon shared the presidency.

So, let me make one thing perfectly clear, I was referring to the Bad Nixon.

If that was the case, Trump wouldn't have done 1/2,811th of the things he has done. Truth be told, Nixon wasn't that bad if you take Watergate out of the equation.

Nixon created the EPA, for instance.

^Good Nixon.

Nixon ordered the break-in of DNC headquarters and Daniel Ellsberg's Psychiatrist's office, etc etc etc.
^Bad Nixon.

Hereby corrected, Trump's bracelet has WWBND on it.

[Thermodolia]

She says she has it, and I think she will release it if the pressure's high enough.

It's also questionable how she didn't report the abuse to police if they're real at the time they happened.

Sounds like you’ve never actually been abused. For those of us who have we don’t really understand what happened until some time later.

Your mind pretty much blocks out a lot of shit

[Petrasylvania]

It's also questionable how she didn't report the abuse to police if they're real at the time they happened.

Sounds like you’ve never actually been abused. For those of us who have we don’t really understand what happened until some time later.

Your mind pretty much blocks out a lot of shit

Weren't you also raging against the MeToo movement? Can't have it both ways.

[Ifreann]

Sounds like you’ve never actually been abused. For those of us who have we don’t really understand what happened until some time later.

Your mind pretty much blocks out a lot of shit

Weren't you also raging against the MeToo movement? Can't have it both ways.

Are you now going to rage against Me Too? Lots of the people coming forward about suffering abuse because of that were only doing so years after the fact.


Or is that okay when they aren't coming forward about abuse by a Democrat?

[Petrasylvania]

Weren't you also raging against the MeToo movement? Can't have it both ways.

Are you now going to rage against Me Too? Lots of the people coming forward about suffering abuse because of that were only doing so years after the fact.


Or is that okay when they aren't coming forward about abuse by a Democrat?

Have to assume the accusation is 100% accurate and completely dismiss the suspicious timing that looks intended to destroy an upcoming election campaign. Better demand Ellison stop the campaign immediately without verifying if he actually abused anyone and see if she maintains interest in bringing it up afterwards.

[Telconi]

Are you now going to rage against Me Too? Lots of the people coming forward about suffering abuse because of that were only doing so years after the fact.


Or is that okay when they aren't coming forward about abuse by a Democrat?

Have to assume the accusation is 100% accurate and completely dismiss the suspicious timing that looks intended to destroy an upcoming election campaign. Better demand Ellison stop the campaign immediately without verifying if he actually abused anyone and see if she maintains interest in bringing it up afterwards.

Sounds like a solid plan of action to me.

[Tobleste]

Whatever happened to innocent till proven quilty?

Doesn't seem to matter when it involves Republicans

When it comes to Trump and Moore, there were several women making pretty consistent accusations that were checked out by reporters. In Trumps case, he was caught joking about it.

Fwiw, if multiple women make accusations that seem to stack up, a democrat candidate should be asked to step aside. Even the party's partisan voters should acknowledge that. Their voters seem more likely to believe women and less likely to tolerate people who are accused of committing sexual abuse than republican voters so even if the partisan in question doesn't care about the victims, it's the smart move.

[Corrian]

Are you now going to rage against Me Too? Lots of the people coming forward about suffering abuse because of that were only doing so years after the fact.


Or is that okay when they aren't coming forward about abuse by a Democrat?

Have to assume the accusation is 100% accurate and completely dismiss the suspicious timing that looks intended to destroy an upcoming election campaign. Better demand Ellison stop the campaign immediately without verifying if he actually abused anyone and see if she maintains interest in bringing it up afterwards.

Seems like every Republican one is assumed to be 100% accurate out the gate

[Petrasylvania]

Have to assume the accusation is 100% accurate and completely dismiss the suspicious timing that looks intended to destroy an upcoming election campaign. Better demand Ellison stop the campaign immediately without verifying if he actually abused anyone and see if she maintains interest in bringing it up afterwards.

Seems like every Republican one is assumed to be 100% accurate out the gate

Multiple corroborating allegations tend to lend credence.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Seems like every Republican one is assumed to be 100% accurate out the gate

Multiple corroborating allegations tend to lend credence.

What if it was only one person being abused? Why don't their situations matter?

[Valrifell]

Trump wears a little bracelet with WWND on it.

If that was the case, Trump wouldn't have done 1/2,811th of the things he has done. Truth be told, Nixon wasn't that bad if you take Watergate out of the equation.

Nah, still a corrupt shitbag who started the war on drugs to crackdown on dissent and enabled the radicalization of the Republican Party through the Southern Strategy in a shameless attempt to gain more power. Kind of invented the whole concept of politicians using dogwhistles and was definitely a roadblock to progress racially speaking.

[Petrasylvania]

Multiple corroborating allegations tend to lend credence.

What if it was only one person being abused? Why don't their situations matter?

Then it's Innocent Until Proven Guilty.

[Northern Davincia]

If that was the case, Trump wouldn't have done 1/2,811th of the things he has done. Truth be told, Nixon wasn't that bad if you take Watergate out of the equation.

Nah, still a corrupt shitbag who started the war on drugs to crackdown on dissent and enabled the radicalization of the Republican Party through the Southern Strategy in a shameless attempt to gain more power. Kind of invented the whole concept of politicians using dogwhistles and was definitely a roadblock to progress racially speaking.

LBJ got the ball rolling on the war on drugs.

[Washington Resistance Army]

What if it was only one person being abused? Why don't their situations matter?

Then it's Innocent Until Proven Guilty.

In the courts, sure. But I'm pretty certain you yourself have stated that doesn't apply to the wider public.