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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue May 29, 2018 10:56 am

Uxupox wrote:


pretty good considering i have electricity.

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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Tue May 29, 2018 10:57 am

The Flutterlands wrote:Also, if America had more than two parties, wouldn't they coalesce into factions of regions considering the cultural and political differences?

Well, we don't see than anywhere else. In fact, the most regional factionalism we see is in the US, with the urban democrats vs the rural republicans, and in Britain, where the Scottish National Party is big. Generally, smaller parties combine into loose coalitions, that shift depending on the political climate.

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Hittanryan wrote:I'm confused. Are you saying that every other electoral system also always results in a two party system? Are you arguing in favor of FPTP? What is your point here?


Try reading my posts. Notice that France has an essentially FPTP system, and significantly more than two parties represented in it. Ditto the UK. My point has been explicitly stated already.

The UK has a two party system, because the LibDems can't be called a serious opposition, so the UK is split between Tory and Labour. In France, the Parliament is basically entirely occupied by REM.

The rest of Europe (Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium, Scandinavia, Switzerland, Spain...) does not have anything that resembles FPTP.
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Postby Genivaria » Tue May 29, 2018 11:01 am

The Flutterlands wrote:Also, if America had more than two parties, wouldn't they coalesce into factions of regions considering the cultural and political differences?

...no, there is no reason to thank that would happen.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue May 29, 2018 11:08 am

And in the If It's Not Corruption Then It's One Helluva Coincidence Department...

Ivanka Trump's Chinese trademarks raise questions about potential conflicts of interest

Ivanka was granted 7 fashion trademarks by China, then Donnie vows to help out ZTE. It's Trump, so shame is nonexistent and it's probably more IMAX scale projection to boot.
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Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby West Leas Oros » Tue May 29, 2018 11:22 am

Petrasylvania wrote:And in the If It's Not Corruption Then It's One Helluva Coincidence Department...

Ivanka Trump's Chinese trademarks raise questions about potential conflicts of interest

Ivanka was granted 7 fashion trademarks by China, then Donnie vows to help out ZTE. It's Trump, so shame is nonexistent and it's probably more IMAX scale projection to boot.

It’s corruption. Nothing new for the Trump Administration.
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Postby Uxupox » Tue May 29, 2018 11:25 am

Petrasylvania wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
pretty good considering i have electricity.

Getting power from Whitefish Energy?


no from trash levels of aee.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue May 29, 2018 11:30 am

West Leas Oros wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:And in the If It's Not Corruption Then It's One Helluva Coincidence Department...

Ivanka Trump's Chinese trademarks raise questions about potential conflicts of interest

Ivanka was granted 7 fashion trademarks by China, then Donnie vows to help out ZTE. It's Trump, so shame is nonexistent and it's probably more IMAX scale projection to boot.

It’s corruption. Nothing new for the Trump Administration.

What's disturbing is how Donnie has managed bulk corruption that the Republican base dismisses as MAGA where if a Democrat did a fraction of that there would be bloodroars for impeachment.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Salandriagado » Tue May 29, 2018 11:42 am

Hittanryan wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
No, but it's even more strongly inclined towards a two-party system. If you prefer a pure example, try Scotland.

In theory the two round system isn't automatically predisposed to a two party system. If one or both of the two largest parties put up unpopular candidates, and one of them didn't make it to the second round, everyone else could pool their votes in a third party candidate. In practice I'm sure it doesn't work out ideally. It's likely at the mercy of voter turnout and ideological voters who refuse to vote in the second round.

In a straight FPTP single member district election, unless a third party outright displaces one of the two majors, they can only be a spoiler.


Your second line applies identically to the first round of a two-round system, though. At which point the third parties are back to being less than spoilers, because they don't even do anything in the second round.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Salandriagado » Tue May 29, 2018 11:43 am

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Also, if America had more than two parties, wouldn't they coalesce into factions of regions considering the cultural and political differences?

Well, we don't see than anywhere else. In fact, the most regional factionalism we see is in the US, with the urban democrats vs the rural republicans, and in Britain, where the Scottish National Party is big. Generally, smaller parties combine into loose coalitions, that shift depending on the political climate.

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Try reading my posts. Notice that France has an essentially FPTP system, and significantly more than two parties represented in it. Ditto the UK. My point has been explicitly stated already.

The UK has a two party system, because the LibDems can't be called a serious opposition, so the UK is split between Tory and Labour. In France, the Parliament is basically entirely occupied by REM.

The rest of Europe (Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium, Scandinavia, Switzerland, Spain...) does not have anything that resembles FPTP.


Notice that I said Scotland.
Cosara wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]

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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue May 29, 2018 11:43 am

MAGA! :rofl:

'Roseanne' canceled after star's controversial comments

The show "Roseanne" was canceled Tuesday, hours after Roseanne Barr, lead actress in the rebooted sitcom, faced a public storm of criticism with a tweet calling a former presidential adviser to President Barack Obama a product of an Islamic group and a character from “Planet of the Apes.”

"Roseanne's Twitter statement is abhorrent, repugnant and inconsistent with our values, and we have decided to cancel her show," said Channing Dungey, the president of ABC Entertainment, in a statement.

She managed to top the National Anthem pissy fit! :rofl:
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Crimes committed by Muslims will be proof of a pan-Islamic plot and Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand, crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of mentally ill lone wolves who do not represent their professed belief system at all.
The probability of someone secretly participating in homosexual acts is directly proportional to the frequency and loudness of their publicly professed disapproval and/or disgust for homosexuality.
If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

New Flag Courtesy of The Realist Polities

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Postby Napkiraly » Tue May 29, 2018 11:47 am

RIP Roseanne we hardly knew ye.

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Postby The Flutterlands » Tue May 29, 2018 11:51 am

Genivaria wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Also, if America had more than two parties, wouldn't they coalesce into factions of regions considering the cultural and political differences?

...no, there is no reason to thank that would happen.

Except that the political parties we already have are more or less regional. Republicans having the south and middle America and Democrats having the north east and west coast.
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Postby Luminesa » Tue May 29, 2018 11:54 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
Genivaria wrote:...no, there is no reason to thank that would happen.

Except that the political parties we already have are more or less regional. Republicans having the south and middle America and Democrats having the north east and west coast.

There's no clear-cut border between Democrats and Republicans. You have both of them in every state of the Union. Not to mention that most Third Parties are not powerful enough to split whole regions. As an example, take the Constitution Party. In Louisiana, they only took about 800 votes during the Presidential election. 800 people is basically Greensburg, Louisiana, a teeny-tiny town in the middle of nowhere.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Tue May 29, 2018 11:54 am

The Flutterlands wrote:
Genivaria wrote:...no, there is no reason to thank that would happen.

Except that the political parties we already have are more or less regional. Republicans having the south and middle America and Democrats having the north east and west coast.

Right. That is a bit of an oversimplification, but close. Still, that does not mean that more parties = more regionalism.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue May 29, 2018 11:56 am

Luminesa wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Except that the political parties we already have are more or less regional. Republicans having the south and middle America and Democrats having the north east and west coast.

There's no clear-cut border between Democrats and Republicans. You have both of them in every state of the Union. Not to mention that most Third Parties are not powerful enough to split whole regions. As an example, take the Constitution Party. In Louisiana, they only took about 800 votes during the Presidential election. 800 people is basically Greensburg, Louisiana, a teeny-tiny town in the middle of nowhere.


The Constitution Party actually won an entire county in one of the plains state iirc. That was one of the things that surprised me most about 2016.

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Postby Uxupox » Tue May 29, 2018 12:00 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Luminesa wrote:There's no clear-cut border between Democrats and Republicans. You have both of them in every state of the Union. Not to mention that most Third Parties are not powerful enough to split whole regions. As an example, take the Constitution Party. In Louisiana, they only took about 800 votes during the Presidential election. 800 people is basically Greensburg, Louisiana, a teeny-tiny town in the middle of nowhere.


The Constitution Party actually won an entire county in one of the plains state iirc. That was one of the things that surprised me most about 2016.


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Postby Cekoviu » Tue May 29, 2018 12:49 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:MAGA! :rofl:

'Roseanne' canceled after star's controversial comments

The show "Roseanne" was canceled Tuesday, hours after Roseanne Barr, lead actress in the rebooted sitcom, faced a public storm of criticism with a tweet calling a former presidential adviser to President Barack Obama a product of an Islamic group and a character from “Planet of the Apes.”

"Roseanne's Twitter statement is abhorrent, repugnant and inconsistent with our values, and we have decided to cancel her show," said Channing Dungey, the president of ABC Entertainment, in a statement.

She managed to top the National Anthem pissy fit! :rofl:

Wheesh.
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Postby Taxi King » Tue May 29, 2018 1:57 pm

Cekoviu wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:MAGA! :rofl:

'Roseanne' canceled after star's controversial comments


She managed to top the National Anthem pissy fit! :rofl:

Wheesh.


Anyone ever notice how Roseanne looks like an unemployed Portuguese man-o-war and some foul mouthed racist parrot had a baby. Touche' bitch.
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Postby Petrasylvania » Tue May 29, 2018 1:59 pm

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Cekoviu wrote:Wheesh.


Anyone ever notice how Roseanne looks like an unemployed Portuguese man-o-war and some foul mouthed racist parrot had a baby. Touche' bitch.

Insulting a man-o-war and parrot in love by implying their baby would look like Roseanne. Shame!
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If Donald Trump accuses an individual of malfeasance without evidence, it is almost a certainty either he or someone associated with him has in fact committed that very same malfeasance to a greater degree.

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Postby Taxi King » Tue May 29, 2018 2:03 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:
Taxi King wrote:
Anyone ever notice how Roseanne looks like an unemployed Portuguese man-o-war and some foul mouthed racist parrot had a baby. Touche' bitch.

Insulting a man-o-war and parrot in love by implying their baby would look like Roseanne. Shame!


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Postby Xadufell » Tue May 29, 2018 2:11 pm

Petrasylvania wrote:MAGA! :rofl:

'Roseanne' canceled after star's controversial comments

The show "Roseanne" was canceled Tuesday, hours after Roseanne Barr, lead actress in the rebooted sitcom, faced a public storm of criticism with a tweet calling a former presidential adviser to President Barack Obama a product of an Islamic group and a character from “Planet of the Apes.”

"Roseanne's Twitter statement is abhorrent, repugnant and inconsistent with our values, and we have decided to cancel her show," said Channing Dungey, the president of ABC Entertainment, in a statement.

She managed to top the National Anthem pissy fit! :rofl:


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Postby Valrifell » Tue May 29, 2018 2:17 pm

Shame, I kind of liked the only episode I saw.

RIPperonni, Roseanne.

Again.
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Postby Taxi King » Tue May 29, 2018 2:26 pm

Xadufell wrote:
Petrasylvania wrote:MAGA! :rofl:

'Roseanne' canceled after star's controversial comments


She managed to top the National Anthem pissy fit! :rofl:


Image

A thing I took from an article by NYT about her show, I laughed.
(Damn it I should have underlined the word "Diverse")


Barr's way more akin to perverse than diverse. Put that in bold caps.
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Postby Xadufell » Tue May 29, 2018 2:36 pm

Taxi King wrote:
Xadufell wrote:
Image

A thing I took from an article by NYT about her show, I laughed.
(Damn it I should have underlined the word "Diverse")


Barr's way more akin to perverse than diverse. Put that in bold caps.


{( Literally Missing The Joke )}
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Grinning Dragon wrote:Why would anyone waste a good bullet on the likes of CNN anyway? I don't understand why anyone would get that worked up over a bunch of dipshits, christ if their shit show is getting you that worked up, just turn the damn thing off and go for a walk/run/ride.

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Postby Taxi King » Tue May 29, 2018 2:44 pm

Xadufell wrote:
Taxi King wrote:
Barr's way more akin to perverse than diverse. Put that in bold caps.


{( Literally Missing The Joke )}


Racist dipshits and fascist shitfucks aren't jokes?
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