Trump MAGAThread XII: A Tarriff-ic Thread!

[Petrasylvania]

So it seems that the death toll on PR from Hurricane Maria could be over 4,600 people.

So how is the rebuilding going?

pretty good considering i have electricity.

Getting power from Whitefish Energy?

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Also, if America had more than two parties, wouldn't they coalesce into factions of regions considering the cultural and political differences?

Well, we don't see than anywhere else. In fact, the most regional factionalism we see is in the US, with the urban democrats vs the rural republicans, and in Britain, where the Scottish National Party is big. Generally, smaller parties combine into loose coalitions, that shift depending on the political climate.

I'm confused. Are you saying that every other electoral system also always results in a two party system? Are you arguing in favor of FPTP? What is your point here?

Try reading my posts. Notice that France has an essentially FPTP system, and significantly more than two parties represented in it. Ditto the UK. My point has been explicitly stated already.

The UK has a two party system, because the LibDems can't be called a serious opposition, so the UK is split between Tory and Labour. In France, the Parliament is basically entirely occupied by REM.

The rest of Europe (Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium, Scandinavia, Switzerland, Spain...) does not have anything that resembles FPTP.

[Genivaria]

Also, if America had more than two parties, wouldn't they coalesce into factions of regions considering the cultural and political differences?

...no, there is no reason to thank that would happen.

[Petrasylvania]

And in the If It's Not Corruption Then It's One Helluva Coincidence Department...

Ivanka Trump's Chinese trademarks raise questions about potential conflicts of interest

Ivanka was granted 7 fashion trademarks by China, then Donnie vows to help out ZTE. It's Trump, so shame is nonexistent and it's probably more IMAX scale projection to boot.

[West Leas Oros]

And in the If It's Not Corruption Then It's One Helluva Coincidence Department...

Ivanka Trump's Chinese trademarks raise questions about potential conflicts of interest

Ivanka was granted 7 fashion trademarks by China, then Donnie vows to help out ZTE. It's Trump, so shame is nonexistent and it's probably more IMAX scale projection to boot.

It’s corruption. Nothing new for the Trump Administration.

[Uxupox]

pretty good considering i have electricity.

Getting power from Whitefish Energy?

no from trash levels of aee.

[Petrasylvania]

And in the If It's Not Corruption Then It's One Helluva Coincidence Department...

Ivanka Trump's Chinese trademarks raise questions about potential conflicts of interest

Ivanka was granted 7 fashion trademarks by China, then Donnie vows to help out ZTE. It's Trump, so shame is nonexistent and it's probably more IMAX scale projection to boot.

It’s corruption. Nothing new for the Trump Administration.

What's disturbing is how Donnie has managed bulk corruption that the Republican base dismisses as MAGA where if a Democrat did a fraction of that there would be bloodroars for impeachment.

[Salandriagado]

No, but it's even more strongly inclined towards a two-party system. If you prefer a pure example, try Scotland.

In theory the two round system isn't automatically predisposed to a two party system. If one or both of the two largest parties put up unpopular candidates, and one of them didn't make it to the second round, everyone else could pool their votes in a third party candidate. In practice I'm sure it doesn't work out ideally. It's likely at the mercy of voter turnout and ideological voters who refuse to vote in the second round.

In a straight FPTP single member district election, unless a third party outright displaces one of the two majors, they can only be a spoiler.

Your second line applies identically to the first round of a two-round system, though. At which point the third parties are back to being less than spoilers, because they don't even do anything in the second round.

[Salandriagado]

Also, if America had more than two parties, wouldn't they coalesce into factions of regions considering the cultural and political differences?

Well, we don't see than anywhere else. In fact, the most regional factionalism we see is in the US, with the urban democrats vs the rural republicans, and in Britain, where the Scottish National Party is big. Generally, smaller parties combine into loose coalitions, that shift depending on the political climate.

Try reading my posts. Notice that France has an essentially FPTP system, and significantly more than two parties represented in it. Ditto the UK. My point has been explicitly stated already.

The UK has a two party system, because the LibDems can't be called a serious opposition, so the UK is split between Tory and Labour. In France, the Parliament is basically entirely occupied by REM.

The rest of Europe (Germany, the Netherlands, Belgium, Scandinavia, Switzerland, Spain...) does not have anything that resembles FPTP.

Notice that I said Scotland.

[Petrasylvania]

MAGA!

'Roseanne' canceled after star's controversial comments

The show "Roseanne" was canceled Tuesday, hours after Roseanne Barr, lead actress in the rebooted sitcom, faced a public storm of criticism with a tweet calling a former presidential adviser to President Barack Obama a product of an Islamic group and a character from “Planet of the Apes.”

"Roseanne's Twitter statement is abhorrent, repugnant and inconsistent with our values, and we have decided to cancel her show," said Channing Dungey, the president of ABC Entertainment, in a statement.

She managed to top the National Anthem pissy fit!

[Napkiraly]

RIP Roseanne we hardly knew ye.

[The Flutterlands]

Also, if America had more than two parties, wouldn't they coalesce into factions of regions considering the cultural and political differences?

...no, there is no reason to thank that would happen.

Except that the political parties we already have are more or less regional. Republicans having the south and middle America and Democrats having the north east and west coast.

[Luminesa]

...no, there is no reason to thank that would happen.

Except that the political parties we already have are more or less regional. Republicans having the south and middle America and Democrats having the north east and west coast.

There's no clear-cut border between Democrats and Republicans. You have both of them in every state of the Union. Not to mention that most Third Parties are not powerful enough to split whole regions. As an example, take the Constitution Party. In Louisiana, they only took about 800 votes during the Presidential election. 800 people is basically Greensburg, Louisiana, a teeny-tiny town in the middle of nowhere.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

...no, there is no reason to thank that would happen.

Except that the political parties we already have are more or less regional. Republicans having the south and middle America and Democrats having the north east and west coast.

Right. That is a bit of an oversimplification, but close. Still, that does not mean that more parties = more regionalism.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Except that the political parties we already have are more or less regional. Republicans having the south and middle America and Democrats having the north east and west coast.

There's no clear-cut border between Democrats and Republicans. You have both of them in every state of the Union. Not to mention that most Third Parties are not powerful enough to split whole regions. As an example, take the Constitution Party. In Louisiana, they only took about 800 votes during the Presidential election. 800 people is basically Greensburg, Louisiana, a teeny-tiny town in the middle of nowhere.

The Constitution Party actually won an entire county in one of the plains state iirc. That was one of the things that surprised me most about 2016.

[Uxupox]

There's no clear-cut border between Democrats and Republicans. You have both of them in every state of the Union. Not to mention that most Third Parties are not powerful enough to split whole regions. As an example, take the Constitution Party. In Louisiana, they only took about 800 votes during the Presidential election. 800 people is basically Greensburg, Louisiana, a teeny-tiny town in the middle of nowhere.

The Constitution Party actually won an entire county in one of the plains state iirc. That was one of the things that surprised me most about 2016.

only thing i like is their foreign policy but other than that is literally go back to manoralism.

[Cekoviu]

MAGA!

'Roseanne' canceled after star's controversial comments

The show "Roseanne" was canceled Tuesday, hours after Roseanne Barr, lead actress in the rebooted sitcom, faced a public storm of criticism with a tweet calling a former presidential adviser to President Barack Obama a product of an Islamic group and a character from “Planet of the Apes.”

"Roseanne's Twitter statement is abhorrent, repugnant and inconsistent with our values, and we have decided to cancel her show," said Channing Dungey, the president of ABC Entertainment, in a statement.

She managed to top the National Anthem pissy fit!

Wheesh.

[Taxi King]

MAGA!

'Roseanne' canceled after star's controversial comments


She managed to top the National Anthem pissy fit!

Wheesh.

Anyone ever notice how Roseanne looks like an unemployed Portuguese man-o-war and some foul mouthed racist parrot had a baby. Touche' bitch.

[Petrasylvania]

Wheesh.

Anyone ever notice how Roseanne looks like an unemployed Portuguese man-o-war and some foul mouthed racist parrot had a baby. Touche' bitch.

Insulting a man-o-war and parrot in love by implying their baby would look like Roseanne. Shame!

[Taxi King]

Anyone ever notice how Roseanne looks like an unemployed Portuguese man-o-war and some foul mouthed racist parrot had a baby. Touche' bitch.

Insulting a man-o-war and parrot in love by implying their baby would look like Roseanne. Shame!

Animal Planet can take it up with me. They know where I am.

[Xadufell]

MAGA!

'Roseanne' canceled after star's controversial comments

The show "Roseanne" was canceled Tuesday, hours after Roseanne Barr, lead actress in the rebooted sitcom, faced a public storm of criticism with a tweet calling a former presidential adviser to President Barack Obama a product of an Islamic group and a character from “Planet of the Apes.”

"Roseanne's Twitter statement is abhorrent, repugnant and inconsistent with our values, and we have decided to cancel her show," said Channing Dungey, the president of ABC Entertainment, in a statement.

She managed to top the National Anthem pissy fit!

A thing I took from an article by NYT about her show, I laughed.
(Damn it I should have underlined the word "Diverse")

[Valrifell]

Shame, I kind of liked the only episode I saw.

RIPperonni, Roseanne.

Again.

[Taxi King]

MAGA!

'Roseanne' canceled after star's controversial comments


She managed to top the National Anthem pissy fit!

A thing I took from an article by NYT about her show, I laughed.
(Damn it I should have underlined the word "Diverse")

Barr's way more akin to perverse than diverse. Put that in bold caps.

[Xadufell]

A thing I took from an article by NYT about her show, I laughed.
(Damn it I should have underlined the word "Diverse")

Barr's way more akin to perverse than diverse. Put that in bold caps.

{( Literally Missing The Joke )}

[Taxi King]

Barr's way more akin to perverse than diverse. Put that in bold caps.

{( Literally Missing The Joke )}

Racist dipshits and fascist shitfucks aren't jokes?