Left Wing Discussion Thread IV: Oh Hai Marx

[Pilarcraft]

tell that to the people of Kampuchea. I mean, sure he was a CIA stooge, but you can't say he was right wing now, can you? (Or, why go that far. Dear Kim is just nearby).

I mean, you can't really say Left-wing Dictatorships are good. They're dictatorships. They're probably not good.

Maybe making my "/s" at the end small was a bad idea.

That's a good guess.

[Conserative Morality]

is this a joke

No, sociologists, like people in all professions, take their fields (and the qualifications for being members of their fields) very seriously.

"Dohoho what a plebeian, he only has a Masters! Clearly he is among the unenlightened swine!"

[Pilarcraft]

No, sociologists, like people in all professions, take their fields (and the qualifications for being members of their fields) very seriously.

"Dohoho what a plebeian, he only has a Masters! Clearly he is among the unenlightened swine!"

Well, Elitism is rampant in the academia. (I mean, given how it's supposed to be based on merit, can you blame them?)

[The Liberated Territories]

Business only needs to look after its shareholders and whatnot, but a government must look after the citizens as a collective group. Checkmate “libertarians”.

lol no

The government has no obligation to do anything for you. Warren v. District of Columbia :^)

[Pilarcraft]

Business only needs to look after its shareholders and whatnot, but a government must look after the citizens as a collective group. Checkmate “libertarians”.

lol no

The government has no obligation to do anything for you. Warren v. District of Columbia :^)

... Then why does it even exist?

[The Liberated Territories]

lol no

The government has no obligation to do anything for you. Warren v. District of Columbia :^)

... Then why does it even exist?

The mafia needs to get paid too Pilarcraft

[Aellex]

FTFY

I don't fault Shaun for being so dry and placid in style. Youtube reactionaries are often adept at exploiting more emotional opponents and selectively editing them to maintain the stereotype of the "triggered SJWs". Can't do that with Shaun if all he does is talk calmly and rigorously.

It's not so much calm and rigorous than it is boring and monotonous. No matter your style, people will make fun of you when you're a political youtubeur. Better for it to at least have some attraction.

Also, not FTFY, you know who's always to blame :

[Democratic Communist Federation]

I mean, you can't really say Left-wing Dictatorships are good. They're dictatorships. They're probably not good.

Arguably, they are better than right-wing dictatorships, but they are all still forms of tyranny and undemocratic.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

What's teh difference between liberalism and left-libertarianism or social libertarianism

Left-libertarianism is another name for libertarian communism, libertarian socialism, and libertarian Marxism. What most Americans call libertarianism, however, would be seen as unbridled capitalism in most other countries, not libertarianism.

[Democratic Communist Federation]

Well, Elitism is rampant in the academia. (I mean, given how it's supposed to be based on merit, can you blame them?)

Depends on the context. At professional meetings, there is a lot of elitism. Who you get to talk to is a function of who you know.

However, on the departmental level, where people interact with each other day in and day out, the level of elitism is usually minimal.

[Dumb Ideologies]

I mean, you can't really say Left-wing Dictatorships are good. They're dictatorships. They're probably not good.

Arguably, they are better than right-wing dictatorships, but they are all still forms of tyranny and undemocratic.

I thought everyone nowadays knew that the only free system is a Strasserist dual kingship advised by a council of poets.

[West Leas Oros]

I mean, you can't really say Left-wing Dictatorships are good. They're dictatorships. They're probably not good.

Arguably, they are better than right-wing dictatorships, but they are all still forms of tyranny and undemocratic.

It depends on how you define “better” and how you define “left and right”

[Reikoku]

Arguably, they are better than right-wing dictatorships, but they are all still forms of tyranny and undemocratic.

I thought everyone nowadays knew that the only free system is a Strasserist dual kingship advised by a council of poets.

That's enough out of you, Gabriele. Back to Fiume.

[Northern Davincia]

I mean, you can't really say Left-wing Dictatorships are good. They're dictatorships. They're probably not good.

Arguably, they are better than right-wing dictatorships, but they are all still forms of tyranny and undemocratic.

That's not even close to arguable. By and large, they are significantly worse.

Left-libertarianism is another name for libertarian communism, libertarian socialism, and libertarian Marxism. What most Americans call libertarianism, however, would be seen as unbridled capitalism in most other countries, not libertarianism.

American libertarianism seems like the true version.

[New Emeline]

Arguably, they are better than right-wing dictatorships, but they are all still forms of tyranny and undemocratic.

That's not even close to arguable. By and large, they are significantly worse.

Left-libertarianism is another name for libertarian communism, libertarian socialism, and libertarian Marxism. What most Americans call libertarianism, however, would be seen as unbridled capitalism in most other countries, not libertarianism.

American libertarianism seems like the true version.

Sure...

[Northern Davincia]

That's not even close to arguable. By and large, they are significantly worse.

American libertarianism seems like the true version.

Sure...

Libertarian socialism is an oxymoron.
:^)

[New Emeline]

Sure...

Libertarian socialism is an oxymoron.
:^)

How so my friend?

[West Leas Oros]

Sure...

Libertarian socialism is an oxymoron.
:^)

Democratically owned means of production.
Libertarian: Nah

[Painisia]

I mean, you can't really say Left-wing Dictatorships are good. They're dictatorships. They're probably not good.

Arguably, they are better than right-wing dictatorships, but they are all still forms of tyranny and undemocratic.

I am not defending dictatorships or fascism, but most countries prospered under right-wing dictatorships (except for Argentina). South Korea under Park Chung-hee became an economic superpower in Asia, the miracle of the Han river. Spain under Franco became a tourist hub during the 1960s. Brazil also had a period of growth in the 1970s during the military dictatorship. Greece also was in a great economic situation during the Papadopoulos regime, unemployment was nearly non-existent.

I am not actually right-wing, but look at Pol Pot`s Kampuchea, Stalin`s Russia and Kim`s North Korea. Although there are exceptions. Russians lived very well during the Brezhnev era in the 70s, same with East Germans. Yugoslavia also, but they had a market-based socialism

[Northern Davincia]

Libertarian socialism is an oxymoron.
:^)

How so my friend?

Libertarianism is, of course, the maximization of human freedom. Socialism is innately opposed to this goal.

[New Emeline]

How so my friend?

Libertarianism is, of course, the maximization of human freedom. Socialism is innately opposed to this goal.

So is capitalism :^)

[Pilarcraft]

Libertarianism is, of course, the maximization of human freedom. Socialism is innately opposed to this goal.

So is capitalism :^)

I sincerely believe that a quotation from Hoppe, Rothbard, or Rand would do that better than any of us ever could.

[Northern Davincia]

Libertarianism is, of course, the maximization of human freedom. Socialism is innately opposed to this goal.

So is capitalism :^)

So is capitalism :^)

I sincerely believe that a quotation from Hoppe, Rothbard, or Rand would do that better than any of us ever could.

Do not question the wise triumvirate.

[New Emeline]

So is capitalism :^)

I sincerely believe that a quotation from Hoppe, Rothbard, or Rand would do that better than any of us ever could.

Do not question the wise triumvirate.

Good old "child market" Rothbard, eh?

[Northern Davincia]

Do not question the wise triumvirate.

Good old "child market" Rothbard, eh?

Someone has to clean the chimneys.