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Postby Jerzylvania » Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:20 pm

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San Lumen wrote:I still have much doubt the meeting happens or North Korea denuclearizing. They would demand something like all troops leaving the DMZ which Trump would be dumb enough to oblige.

Well it may not be a bad idea considering that both Koreas are likely to officially end their war.


Yes. Overvaluing that as a political move is difficult to do IMHO.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:16 pm

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San Lumen wrote:I still have much doubt the meeting happens or North Korea denuclearizing. They would demand something like all troops leaving the DMZ which Trump would be dumb enough to oblige.

Well it may not be a bad idea considering that both Koreas are likely to officially end their war.

Makes no difference, really. War is only a factual state of affairs. I hate all those list videos that say Korea is technically still at war. No, they are not.
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Postby Bombadil » Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:36 pm

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San Lumen wrote:I still have much doubt the meeting happens or North Korea denuclearizing. They would demand something like all troops leaving the DMZ which Trump would be dumb enough to oblige.


After Pompeo met with KJU this weekend in NK? That sure got my attention (since it's confirmed). Reminds me of the smell of Nixon's detente with Brezhnev in the Soviet Union and visiting China in 1972. Tricky Dick's success there spiked his popularity so hard he won 49 states later that November even after the whole Pentagon Papers thing and the break in of Daniel Elsberg's psychiatrist's office. Nixon really needed to save the opening of China for the fall of 1973 or spring of 1974 as to deflect the Watergate investigation in real time and maybe ride it out. I guess ol' Nixon just wasn't that smart. lol.


People are wondering why in his confirmation hearings, despite being asked directly about NK, he omitted to mention he'd just met the leader..
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Postby Jerzylvania » Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:56 pm

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After Pompeo met with KJU this weekend in NK? That sure got my attention (since it's confirmed). Reminds me of the smell of Nixon's detente with Brezhnev in the Soviet Union and visiting China in 1972. Tricky Dick's success there spiked his popularity so hard he won 49 states later that November even after the whole Pentagon Papers thing and the break in of Daniel Elsberg's psychiatrist's office. Nixon really needed to save the opening of China for the fall of 1973 or spring of 1974 as to deflect the Watergate investigation in real time and maybe ride it out. I guess ol' Nixon just wasn't that smart. lol.


People are wondering why in his confirmation hearings, despite being asked directly about NK, he omitted to mention he'd just met the leader..


There is a lot to wonder about here.

I believe China calls many shots for the NK government since they are helpless without Chinese economic assistance.

That chocolate cake Trump and Jinping had must have been a dandy as Donnie always says. And Jinping may have arranged something right then. Something so good for China they made him leader for life in the interim. A peace between the Koreans that Trump went for even though it means US military will be leaving on a scheduled date.

I'd suppose that would be a huge enough deal for the Chinese to make Xi the leader for life. But, it is still up to Trump to sell this idea to the American People. The idea that our military is done on the Korean peninsula. I suppose he'll say they're stationed across the Sea of Japan in Japan, just in case ...no problem. It's Donnie the peacenik.

That's a wild enough imagined scenario to wonder about until we see what goes down. I wonder how the South Korean people would feel about it?
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:01 pm

Seangoli wrote:Do you know who has a plan for what the US wants out of the Syria engagement?


That's a serious question, because apparently our President doesn't have one. Not in the sense that he plans to leave it all alone, but in the literal sense that he has no fucking clue what our role in the Syria conflict is one way or another.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/17/politics ... index.html

I am very unnerved by what I'm hearing and seeing," said Sen. Lindsey Graham, a South Carolina Republican, who said the briefing on the strikes made him more worried, not less. The administration is "going down a dangerous path" with regards to Syria, he said, without offering details.


Senators leaving Tuesday's briefing seemed to indicate that Trump's isolationist impulses are going to win out, regardless of the consequences for US global influence, American national security interests or the fate of the region, where Iran is vying for larger influence and Russia has established itself as a power broker, edging out the US.
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So basically, the President's plan is to impulsively react to the whims of the populace and events going on, without a clear notion of whether we should leave Syria or not, whether we should engage in a diplomatic solution or not, or whether we should engage in a military operation or not. His job is to literally figure this shit out, and he hasn't. Winning!


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Postby Bombadil » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:06 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Seangoli wrote:Do you know who has a plan for what the US wants out of the Syria engagement?


That's a serious question, because apparently our President doesn't have one. Not in the sense that he plans to leave it all alone, but in the literal sense that he has no fucking clue what our role in the Syria conflict is one way or another.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/17/politics ... index.html





So basically, the President's plan is to impulsively react to the whims of the populace and events going on, without a clear notion of whether we should leave Syria or not, whether we should engage in a diplomatic solution or not, or whether we should engage in a military operation or not. His job is to literally figure this shit out, and he hasn't. Winning!


Trump makes the best plans, the best.


Almost as good as his plans for North Korea..

“If the meeting when I’m there is not fruitful, I will respectfully leave the meeting and we’ll continue what we’re doing or whatever it is that we’ll continue, but something will happen.”
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Postby Jerzylvania » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:09 pm

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The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Trump makes the best plans, the best.


Almost as good as his plans for North Korea..

“If the meeting when I’m there is not fruitful, I will respectfully leave the meeting and we’ll continue what we’re doing or whatever it is that we’ll continue, but something will happen.”


Might already be decided. This bit might be for show. Trump's all about the show, ya know?
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Postby The Flutterlands » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:32 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
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Almost as good as his plans for North Korea..

“If the meeting when I’m there is not fruitful, I will respectfully leave the meeting and we’ll continue what we’re doing or whatever it is that we’ll continue, but something will happen.”


Might already be decided. This bit might be for show. Trump's all about the show, ya know?

Already decided, which way?
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Postby Bombadil » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:35 pm

The Flutterlands wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
Might already be decided. This bit might be for show. Trump's all about the show, ya know?

Already decided, which way?


Look, it's quite easy and Trump has been very clear..

He might go, he might not..
If he goes he might have a meeting, he might not
If he has a meeting he might stay, he might not.

Regardless he'll continue to do what's he's doing or he'll continue to do what he's going to do if he does it.

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Postby Dahon » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:37 pm

Bombadil wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Already decided, which way?


Look, it's quite easy and Trump has been very clear..

He might go, he might not..
If he goes he might have a meeting, he might not
If he has a meeting he might stay, he might not.

Regardless he'll continue to do what's he's doing or he'll continue to do what he's going to do if he does it.

Claro?


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Postby Jerzylvania » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:55 pm

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Jerzylvania wrote:
Might already be decided. This bit might be for show. Trump's all about the show, ya know?

Already decided, which way?


In his favor. Otherwise Trump never mentions their names unless there is a nasty nickname.

Heard the term Little Rocketman lately? I haven't. So something well may have happened and it's just showtime on the roll out for maximum effect.

I don't like Trumps methods and everyone here knows that, but I think I get how he operates by now.
I think he has something agreed in principal here... as long as the Chinese don't pull the rug out from under him at the last minute just to brandish their power.
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Postby The South Falls » Wed Apr 18, 2018 6:59 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
The Flutterlands wrote:Already decided, which way?


In his favor. Otherwise Trump never mentions their names unless there is a nasty nickname.

Heard the term Little Rocketman lately? I haven't. So something well may have happened and it's just showtime on the roll out for maximum effect.

I don't like Trumps methods and everyone here knows that, but I think I get how he operates by now.
I think he has something agreed in principal here... as long as the Chinese don't pull the rug out from under him at the last minute just to brandish their power.

It's literally always calling people names, all for the throwing of red meat to his base. They could pull the rug out from him at anytime, and he'd honestly think that he still had the advantage.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Wed Apr 18, 2018 7:04 pm

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In his favor. Otherwise Trump never mentions their names unless there is a nasty nickname.

Heard the term Little Rocketman lately? I haven't. So something well may have happened and it's just showtime on the roll out for maximum effect.

I don't like Trumps methods and everyone here knows that, but I think I get how he operates by now.
I think he has something agreed in principal here... as long as the Chinese don't pull the rug out from under him at the last minute just to brandish their power.

It's literally always calling people names, all for the throwing of red meat to his base. They could pull the rug out from him at anytime, and he'd honestly think that he still had the advantage.

He'd surely spin it that way. Trump is one of the most gifted liars on Earth. :blink:
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:45 pm

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San Lumen wrote:I still have much doubt the meeting happens or North Korea denuclearizing. They would demand something like all troops leaving the DMZ which Trump would be dumb enough to oblige.

Well it may not be a bad idea considering that both Koreas are likely to officially end their war.


If all the troops left the DMZ that would be Korean War 2 without question.

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Postby Blakk Metal » Wed Apr 18, 2018 9:49 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:Is this guy a trumpist?

Because of the teachers strike; a child somewhere was sexually assaulted.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/14/politics ... index.html

Is this from the Onion?

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Postby NeoOasis » Wed Apr 18, 2018 11:48 pm

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The Black Forrest wrote:Is this guy a trumpist?

Because of the teachers strike; a child somewhere was sexually assaulted.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/14/politics ... index.html

Is this from the Onion?


Kentucky I think.

And he ultimately aplogized when damn near everyone in the state lashed out at him.
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Postby Corrian » Thu Apr 19, 2018 12:48 am

I'm not sure I want to know where in his mindset led him to that thought process.

Is he vying to become the least popular state governor?
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Postby Datlofff » Thu Apr 19, 2018 5:42 am

Jerzylvania wrote:
The South Falls wrote:It's literally always calling people names, all for the throwing of red meat to his base. They could pull the rug out from him at anytime, and he'd honestly think that he still had the advantage.

He'd surely spin it that way. Trump is one of the most gifted liars on Earth. :blink:

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Postby Cekoviu » Thu Apr 19, 2018 6:16 am

Corrian wrote:I'm not sure I want to know where in his mindset led him to that thought process.

Is he vying to become the least popular state governor?

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Postby Maineiacs » Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:12 am

Corrian wrote:I'm not sure I want to know where in his mindset led him to that thought process.

Is he vying to become the least popular state governor?



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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Apr 19, 2018 8:22 am

Maineiacs wrote:
Corrian wrote:I'm not sure I want to know where in his mindset led him to that thought process.

Is he vying to become the least popular state governor?



People disagree with him; therefore, they are his enemies. Enemies deserve to be dehumanized. That's his mindset.


If he was running an autocratic state I think he'd purge them, a la Stalin, and label them enemies of the state.
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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Apr 19, 2018 10:13 am

The Black Forrest wrote:Is this guy a trumpist?

Because of the teachers strike; a child somewhere was sexually assaulted.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/14/politics ... index.html


:rofl: I've heard of the teachers union being blamed for everything, but this is ridiculous.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:05 pm

NeoOasis wrote:
Blakk Metal wrote:Is this from the Onion?


Kentucky I think.

And he ultimately aplogized when damn near everyone in the state lashed out at him.


A guy sitting next to me from KY buys me a beer at a sporting event. He introduces me to his wife and his sister but there was only one girl sitting next to him. I said "hey, but there's only one woman there next to you?" He looked at me and said, "Dude, they blamed all that on the teachers strike. Our governor said so. We victims of the Kentucky teachers union system. BTW, the little boy sitting next to her is my son/half-brother. He starts school in September."
*guy smiles weakly, clenches sweaty hand of wife/sister harder*
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Postby New Emeline » Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:06 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
NeoOasis wrote:
Kentucky I think.

And he ultimately aplogized when damn near everyone in the state lashed out at him.


A guy sitting next to me from KY buys me a beer at a sporting event. He introduces me to his wife and his sister but there was only one girl sitting next to him. I said "hey, but there's only one woman there next to you?" He looked at me and said, "Dude, they blamed all that on the teachers strike. Our governor said so. We victims of the Kentucky teachers union system. BTW, the little boy sitting next to her is my son/half-brother. He starts school in September."
*guy smiles weakly, clenches sweaty hand of wife/sister harder*

Huh?

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Postby Jerzylvania » Thu Apr 19, 2018 1:09 pm

New Emeline wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:
A guy sitting next to me from KY buys me a beer at a sporting event. He introduces me to his wife and his sister but there was only one girl sitting next to him. I said "hey, but there's only one woman there next to you?" He looked at me and said, "Dude, they blamed all that on the teachers strike. Our governor said so. We victims of the Kentucky teachers union system. BTW, the little boy sitting next to her is my son/half-brother. He starts school in September."
*guy smiles weakly, clenches sweaty hand of wife/sister harder*

Huh?

Yuh-huh.
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