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Can The Republican Party win the White House in 2016?

Yes
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No
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Maybe
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Too Early to Speculate
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:40 pm

-Arabiyah- wrote:
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If our lies are so effective, how will you win?

You seem to care about America as you talk about it a great deal.


I worry about what America will do on an international level and I have been Muslim for a year and 6 months.


Don't worry the inner circle don't have any plans as of yet. We have most Muslims focused on Israel and the American people are too busy sniping at each other and distracted by the black man in office.

Face it. You will never defeat us.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:40 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
United Christian America wrote:I sure hope so, preferably Bobby Jindal or something to counter certain stereotypes. Palin's a lost cause.


Nahh. Piyush can't win it. His handling of the Hurricane will haunt him if he tries.....


Oh and spouting about some Evangelical uprising long after he made the Stupid Party speech.
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Postby The Remnants of Kobol » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:47 pm

Does it really matter? The "American People" don't get a say anymore.

And even if they did, you're options on the ballot are: Dumb, Dumber, Crazy, and Who Are You?
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:51 pm

The Remnants of Kobol wrote:Does it really matter? The "American People" don't get a say anymore.

And even if they did, you're options on the ballot are: Dumb, Dumber, Crazy, and Who Are You?


That would be a refreshing change. A Hipster Party running a candidate. Except that would be too mainstream.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:55 pm

The Remnants of Kobol wrote:Does it really matter? The "American People" don't get a say anymore.

And even if they did, you're options on the ballot are: Dumb, Dumber, Crazy, and Who Are You?


The sad thing is the third party candidates make them look really good.
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Postby Genivaria » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:59 pm

The Remnants of Kobol wrote:Does it really matter? The "American People" don't get a say anymore.

And even if they did, you're options on the ballot are: Dumb, Dumber, Crazy, and Who Are You?

Oh hey it's another 'lets equate the two radically different parties because it's edgy'.

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Postby Genivaria » Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:00 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
The Remnants of Kobol wrote:Does it really matter? The "American People" don't get a say anymore.

And even if they did, you're options on the ballot are: Dumb, Dumber, Crazy, and Who Are You?


The sad thing is the third party candidates make them look really good.

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Postby Death Metal » Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:06 am

I accidentally flick over to my NS tab and see....

The Remnants of Kobol wrote:Does it really matter? The "American People" don't get a say anymore.

And even if they did, you're options on the ballot are: Dumb, Dumber, Crazy, and Who Are You?


:roll:

I'm just going to say what I said to another "edgy" type, as it still fits:

Your haughty, 'I'm so better than everyone because I'm not conforming to a party' attitude? Cut that shit out. It's just myopic. You're not saying anything special, unique, witty, or for that matter true. It's the same tired, boring, Orwellian argument we've all heard thousands of times, and it's completely inaccurate and full of selective reasoning.

Instead of coming with your own ideas, you just immediately fall in with a herd, saying the exact same things your herdmates say. This doesn't make you "awake", or rebellious, or edgy, or whatever you think it makes you.

You're just another conformist. Deal with it.

EDIT- Oh, and yes you do listen to mainstream media. You either get your news from a site that uses AP or Reuters journalists, or a news personality with ties to a major media empire (and virtually every radio personality ever falls into this, including Alex Jones who works for Clear Channel), or a blog that gets their information from one of the two. All news inevitably comes from mainstream media.

EDIT- Not to the poster I'm replying to, but to NS in general: Guess which 2012 Presidential Candidate's books were published by the same group that published Twilight? Hint: His initials are RP. Mainstream media is everywhere in politics.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:20 am

Geilinor wrote:
Libertarian California wrote:
Well, I can't find it, but I once watched a video of Biden saying that people should buy shotguns for self-defense.

When did a Democratic vice president say we should ban shotguns? Democrats tend to support the concept of self-defense.


Not really. They might say ''I support the right for people to have guns to hunt and fish'' But really, it's just a load of bullcrap. Sen. Feinstein for example, has a CCW (Conceal Carry Weapon) permit in California, but has favored restrictions and even the prohibition of owning handguns. They're gonna do what politicians usually do and thats lie, lie, lie.
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Postby Kainesia » Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:25 am

New Aerios wrote:
New haven america wrote:Fixed that for ya.


I'm not familiar with the Domecrats. Is that Borock Abamo's party?


It's the party that is coming to destroy family values by implicating the communist obamacare system and force everyone into gay marriage and steal everybodies guns headed by a gay kenyan who is the seed of satan and a worse tyrant than stalin who wants to sexually assault every american with his stimulus package.

Apparently.
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Postby West Angola » Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:08 am

Kainesia wrote:It's the party that is coming to destroy family values by implicating the communist obamacare system and force everyone into gay marriage and steal everybodies guns headed by a gay kenyan who is the seed of satan and a worse tyrant than stalin who wants to sexually assault every american with his stimulus package.

Apparently.

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Postby Oppressed Slaver Union » Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:33 am

This question is stupid. its a 2 party system. both parties can 'win' but one of them is going to lose.
Not like it makes a difference anyways.
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Postby Gauthier » Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:36 am

Oppressed Slaver Union wrote:This question is stupid. its a 2 party system. both parties can 'win' but one of them is going to lose.
Not like it makes a difference anyways.


Hipsters. Hipsters everywhere.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:45 am

Oppressed Slaver Union wrote:This question is stupid. its a 2 party system. both parties can 'win' but one of them is going to lose.
Not like it makes a difference anyways.

Dude you'll cut someone with a comment like that.

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Postby The Scientific States » Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:03 am

Oppressed Slaver Union wrote:This question is stupid. its a 2 party system. both parties can 'win' but one of them is going to lose.
Not like it makes a difference anyways.


What?
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:18 am

The Scientific States wrote:>:(
Oppressed Slaver Union wrote:This question is stupid. its a 2 party system. both parties can 'win' but one of them is going to lose.
Not like it makes a difference anyways.


What?

I think this is another one of those people claiming that the two main parties are the same because it's the cool thing to do or something.

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Postby Lerodan Chinamerica » Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:37 am

Absolutely. Let's just hope that the winner isn't a neo-con, or someone who openly hates the Constitution like Rick Santorum. That would be bad.

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Postby Gauthier » Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:49 am

Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:Absolutely. Let's just hope that the winner isn't a neo-con, or someone who openly hates the Constitution like Rick Santorum. That would be bad.


At current projections, the winner will be batshit enough to win over the Tea Party.
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Postby Adab » Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:51 am

Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:Absolutely. Let's just hope that the winner isn't a neo-con, or someone who openly hates the Constitution like Rick Santorum. That would be bad.


I seriously doubt that someone who openly hates the Constitution has a chance of getting enough popularity and votes to propel himself to the Presidency of the United States.
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Postby The Scientific States » Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:52 am

Genivaria wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:>:(

What?

I think this is another one of those people claiming that the two main parties are the same because it's the cool thing to do or something.


Yeah. And, I just realized I accidentally put a angry face on top of that post. Whoops. :p
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Postby The Scientific States » Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:53 am

Adab wrote:
Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:Absolutely. Let's just hope that the winner isn't a neo-con, or someone who openly hates the Constitution like Rick Santorum. That would be bad.


I seriously doubt that someone who openly hates the Constitution has a chance of getting enough popularity and votes to propel himself to the Presidency of the United States.


Maybe. Palin almost became VP.
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Postby Genivaria » Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:53 am

Gauthier wrote:
Lerodan Chinamerica wrote:Absolutely. Let's just hope that the winner isn't a neo-con, or someone who openly hates the Constitution like Rick Santorum. That would be bad.


At current projections, the winner will be batshit enough to win over the Tea Party.

And then be too batshit to win the rest of the country.

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Postby Death Metal » Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:48 pm

Genivaria wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:>:(

What?

I think this is another one of those people claiming that the two main parties are the same because it's the cool thing to do or something.


Everyone who claims the two parties are the same, are themselves all the same.
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Postby Corrian » Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:16 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Adab wrote:
I seriously doubt that someone who openly hates the Constitution has a chance of getting enough popularity and votes to propel himself to the Presidency of the United States.


Maybe. Palin almost became VP.

McCain lost by 10 million votes. I'm not sure there was a "Almost" involved there.

Also, Obama destroyed McCain in the electoral votes, as well.
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Postby Blakk Metal » Fri Jul 11, 2014 1:22 pm

Corrian wrote:Also, Obama destroyed McCain in the electoral votes, as well.

The electoral college is designed in such a way that it is currently nearly impossible to win with less than 300 without engaging in voter fraud.

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