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by The Manticoran Empire » Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:28 am
Tule wrote:Are volunteer militias like the Polish Territorial Defence Force and the Danish Home Guard useful to any degree or should I just go with a volunteer reserve?
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by Austrasien » Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:25 pm
Tule wrote:Are volunteer militias like the Polish Territorial Defence Force and the Danish Home Guard useful to any degree or should I just go with a volunteer reserve?
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Bastion Remnant wrote:What should I do for a nation with a huge populace, large industrial complex, and a willing-to-fight country, what vehicles should I use?
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Bastion Remnant wrote:What should I do for a nation with a huge populace, large industrial complex, and a willing-to-fight country, what vehicles should I use?
by Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502 » Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:49 pm
by Taihei Tengoku » Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:53 pm
Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502 wrote:What's the stopping power of handguns compared to shotguns and assault rifles? I'm assuming shotguns have the edge in raw hitting power but how piss-poor are handguns?
by Tule » Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:19 pm
Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502 wrote:What's the stopping power of handguns compared to shotguns and assault rifles? I'm assuming shotguns have the edge in raw hitting power but how piss-poor are handguns?
by Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502 » Tue Feb 27, 2018 5:33 pm
by The Corparation » Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:02 pm
Tule wrote:Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502 wrote:What's the stopping power of handguns compared to shotguns and assault rifles? I'm assuming shotguns have the edge in raw hitting power but how piss-poor are handguns?
The lethality of pistol ammunition is perfectly adequate. A .45 FMJ will cause exactly as much injury to a human being as a .458 lott FMJ, and the latter is used on Elephants (Where I'm from they're used as backup weapons against Minke Whales.).
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by Tule » Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:03 pm
Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502 wrote:The context of the question was a video that I unfortunately can't find the URL of. It was security footage of a store clerk pulling a handgun on a robber and probably hitting him five or six times; the robber kept going for a good 2-3 minutes before collapsing, though I'm pretty sure it said he was treated at a hospital and survived.
While I'm sure it's not impossible to be shot the same number of times by a rifle and keep going, I think it would probably be a lot less likely, especially if you're using full-power cartridges.
Is this a fluke? Again, sorry I can't find the link to the video, but the guy was definitely riddled with bullets and kept trucking while he was able to. I can't imagine that happening with most rifle rounds, and obviously not shotguns.
Edit: Found it on Reddit.
by Tule » Tue Feb 27, 2018 6:05 pm
The Corparation wrote:Tule wrote:
The lethality of pistol ammunition is perfectly adequate. A .45 FMJ will cause exactly as much injury to a human being as a .458 lott FMJ, and the latter is used on Elephants (Where I'm from they're used as backup weapons against Minke Whales.).
I feel like there's a story here and I'm interested to know more about what I can only assume was a terrible and costly war with the Whales.
by Gallia- » Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:25 pm
Tule wrote:Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502 wrote:What's the stopping power of handguns compared to shotguns and assault rifles? I'm assuming shotguns have the edge in raw hitting power but how piss-poor are handguns?
The lethality of pistol ammunition is perfectly adequate. A .45 FMJ will cause exactly as much injury to a
The Corparation wrote:I feel like there's a story here
by The Manticoran Empire » Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:41 pm
The Corparation wrote:Tule wrote:
The lethality of pistol ammunition is perfectly adequate. A .45 FMJ will cause exactly as much injury to a human being as a .458 lott FMJ, and the latter is used on Elephants (Where I'm from they're used as backup weapons against Minke Whales.).
I feel like there's a story here and I'm interested to know more about what I can only assume was a terrible and costly war with the Whales.
by Dostanuot Loj » Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:05 am
Tule wrote:The Corparation wrote:I feel like there's a story here and I'm interested to know more about what I can only assume was a terrible and costly war with the Whales.
Yeah kinda. In the rare case a Whale survives getting harpooned, standard procedure is to reel the whale in/sail up to it and put a .458 through the skull. That's the legally required minimum (Whale skulls are stupidly thick).
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by Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502 » Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:01 am
Tule wrote:Schwere Panzer Abteilung 502 wrote:The context of the question was a video that I unfortunately can't find the URL of. It was security footage of a store clerk pulling a handgun on a robber and probably hitting him five or six times; the robber kept going for a good 2-3 minutes before collapsing, though I'm pretty sure it said he was treated at a hospital and survived.
While I'm sure it's not impossible to be shot the same number of times by a rifle and keep going, I think it would probably be a lot less likely, especially if you're using full-power cartridges.
Is this a fluke? Again, sorry I can't find the link to the video, but the guy was definitely riddled with bullets and kept trucking while he was able to. I can't imagine that happening with most rifle rounds, and obviously not shotguns.
Edit: Found it on Reddit.
There are plenty of incidents of individual taking multiple rifle shots and remaining active. And generally it is the 5.56 that is the most deadly rifle round in common military use, because it tends to fragment more reliably and tumble sooner than full-sized rifle rounds.
In this particular video (which I recommend you take down before it gets reported) I can guarantee you that the robber did not sustain injuries to vital blood vessels, the brain or the heart. If he had he would have been on the floor before the video ended.
Hits kill, misses don't. That's 90% of stopping power. The most important factor apart from shot placement, by far, is penetration. Even a very big wound is unlikely to cause incapacitation unless the hole is deep enough to reach the heart/aorta/pulmonary arteries.
EDIT: BTW, for an interesting read, check out the 1986 Miami Shootout.
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