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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:10 pm

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Insaeldor wrote:I though her sentence was just commuted, was she actually pardoned?


I....honestly don't know.


The all-knowing wiki says thus:

In January 2017, a Justice Department source said that Manning was on President Obama's short list for a possible commutation.[204] On January 17, 2017, President Obama commuted all but four months of Manning's remaining sentence.[18][205] In a press conference held on January 18, Obama stated that Manning's original 35-year prison sentence was "very disproportionate relative to what other leakers have received" and that "it makes sense to commute—and not pardon—her sentence."[205][206] Notwithstanding her commutation, Manning's military appeal will continue, with her attorney saying, "We fight in her appeal to clear her name."[207]

On January 26, 2017, in her first column for The Guardian since the commutation, Manning lamented that President Obama's political opponents consistently refused to compromise, resulting in "very few permanent accomplishments" during his time in office. As The Guardian summarized it, she saw Obama's legacy as "a warning against not being bold enough."[208] In response, President Donald Trump tweeted that Manning was an "ungrateful traitor" and should "never have been released."[209]


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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:11 pm

Purpelia wrote:Does it even matter? What kind of psychotic political party endorses someone convicted of spying as a political candidate?

Convicted? I'm not sure. Guilty? All of them.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:12 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
I....honestly don't know.


The all-knowing wiki says thus:

In January 2017, a Justice Department source said that Manning was on President Obama's short list for a possible commutation.[204] On January 17, 2017, President Obama commuted all but four months of Manning's remaining sentence.[18][205] In a press conference held on January 18, Obama stated that Manning's original 35-year prison sentence was "very disproportionate relative to what other leakers have received" and that "it makes sense to commute—and not pardon—her sentence."[205][206] Notwithstanding her commutation, Manning's military appeal will continue, with her attorney saying, "We fight in her appeal to clear her name."[207]

On January 26, 2017, in her first column for The Guardian since the commutation, Manning lamented that President Obama's political opponents consistently refused to compromise, resulting in "very few permanent accomplishments" during his time in office. As The Guardian summarized it, she saw Obama's legacy as "a warning against not being bold enough."[208] In response, President Donald Trump tweeted that Manning was an "ungrateful traitor" and should "never have been released."[209]


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Ok, quick aside, I'm not comfortable having a senator I think is hot
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:17 pm

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Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
The all-knowing wiki says thus:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chelsea_Manning

Ok, quick aside, I'm not comfortable having a senator I think is hot

Eh it’s not to bad. I mean Brian Sims and Aaron Shock where both elected and they are hot
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Internationalist Bastard wrote:Ok, quick aside, I'm not comfortable having a senator I think is hot

Eh it’s not to bad. I mean Brian Sims and Aaron Shock where both elected and they are hot

Pwoar, Sims in glasses
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Postby Greater USA » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:22 pm

I'm found a quote from her (with regards to her being denied a fellowship at Harvard University): "This is military intelligence and it is a police state in which we can no longer engage in actual political discourse in our institutions."

Here can be seen the general beef I have with leakers such as Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning. The United States, even if you express disapproval of the particular extent of NSA surveillance, or the activities described in Manning's several leaks over the years, is nowhere near the type of dystopia that left-wing pundits (who use this kind of situation to their political advantage) describe. Frankly, I find it funny that a woman who received a pardon for her gravely serious crimes of theft and releasing classified documents is still complaining about authoritarianism.

I, and other Americans are not alone in feeling this way. She was actually denied entry to Canada (with Trudeau in office) as their government considers what she did a treason-level offense in their jurisdiction.
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Postby Insaeldor » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:26 pm

Greater USA wrote:I'm found a quote from her (with regards to her being denied a fellowship at Harvard University): "This is military intelligence and it is a police state in which we can no longer engage in actual political discourse in our institutions."

Here can be seen the general beef I have with leakers such as Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning. The United States, even if you express disapproval of the particular extent of NSA surveillance, or the activities described in Manning's several leaks over the years, is nowhere near the type of dystopia that left-wing pundits (who use this kind of situation to their political advantage) describe. Frankly, I find it funny that a woman who received a commutation for her gravely serious crimes of theft and releasing classified documents is still complaining about authoritarianism.

I, and other Americans are not alone in feeling this way. She was actually denied entry to Canada (with Trudeau in office) as their government considers what she did a treason-level offense in their jurisdiction.

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Postby Greed and Death » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:28 pm

Uiiop wrote:The shit's she known shows integrity either you approve or disapprove of it. That kinda puts her up for the list celebrity candidates/suggestions if not at the top in my eyes.

Leaking classified information and diplomatic cables is poor judgement and far from integrity.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:29 pm

Greed and Death wrote:
Uiiop wrote:The shit's she known shows integrity either you approve or disapprove of it. That kinda puts her up for the list celebrity candidates/suggestions if not at the top in my eyes.

Leaking classified information and diplomatic cables is poor judgement and far from integrity.


Depends on the information and cables.

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Greater USA wrote:I'm found a quote from her (with regards to her being denied a fellowship at Harvard University): "This is military intelligence and it is a police state in which we can no longer engage in actual political discourse in our institutions."

Here can be seen the general beef I have with leakers such as Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning. The United States, even if you express disapproval of the particular extent of NSA surveillance, or the activities described in Manning's several leaks over the years, is nowhere near the type of dystopia that left-wing pundits (who use this kind of situation to their political advantage) describe. Frankly, I find it funny that a woman who received a pardon for her gravely serious crimes of theft and releasing classified documents is still complaining about authoritarianism.

I, and other Americans are not alone in feeling this way. She was actually denied entry to Canada (with Trudeau in office) as their government considers what she did a treason-level offense in their jurisdiction.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:34 pm

Can someone tell her to get out of my goddamn state?
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Conserative Morality wrote:Can someone tell her to get out of my goddamn state?

She can stay with me.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:36 pm

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Greater USA wrote:I'm found a quote from her (with regards to her being denied a fellowship at Harvard University): "This is military intelligence and it is a police state in which we can no longer engage in actual political discourse in our institutions."

Here can be seen the general beef I have with leakers such as Edward Snowden and Chelsea Manning. The United States, even if you express disapproval of the particular extent of NSA surveillance, or the activities described in Manning's several leaks over the years, is nowhere near the type of dystopia that left-wing pundits (who use this kind of situation to their political advantage) describe. Frankly, I find it funny that a woman who received a commutation for her gravely serious crimes of theft and releasing classified documents is still complaining about authoritarianism.

I, and other Americans are not alone in feeling this way. She was actually denied entry to Canada (with Trudeau in office) as their government considers what she did a treason-level offense in their jurisdiction.

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Conserative Morality wrote:Can someone tell her to get out of my goddamn state?

She can stay with me.

Make sure you keep her out of my state.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:37 pm

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Internationalist Bastard wrote:She can stay with me.

Make sure you keep her out of my state.

Don't worry, I'll watch her all day
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:39 pm

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Conserative Morality wrote:Make sure you keep her out of my state.

Don't worry, I'll watch her all day


Can I suggest a good quality property in Maryland to live with your new sweetie Manning?

I hear Maryland is a lovely place.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:41 pm

In fact, I insist, please keep Manning in Maryland. She's in good company after all.
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Conserative Morality wrote:Can someone tell her to get out of my goddamn state?

I thought you were in VA?
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Postby Katganistan » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:42 pm

Democratic party would be crazy to run her. Too much toxicity in her background.

Also: fucking ironic there are states where convicted felons can't VOTE, and yet one can run for public office.
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Postby Insaeldor » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:42 pm

I still hate Manning because the day she got out I was doing crossing guard at the school down the road from the base she was at and almost got my shit kicked in my a news van.
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Postby Katganistan » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:44 pm

Insaeldor wrote:I still hate Manning because the day she got out I was doing crossing guard at the school down the road from the base she was at and almost got my shit kicked in my a news van.



What? This doesn't make sense.

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:45 pm

Katganistan wrote:Democratic party would be crazy to run her. Too much toxicity in her background.

IDK, Anthony "Carlos Danger" Weiner was actually leading in the NYC mayoral polls...

...till they caught him messaging dick pics again.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:46 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Internationalist Bastard wrote:Don't worry, I'll watch her all day


Can I suggest a good quality property in Maryland to live with your new sweetie Manning?

I hear Maryland is a lovely place.

I'm from Washington DC. Maryland's beautiful, but I'm required by loyalty to say it sucks
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Postby Insaeldor » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:49 pm

Katganistan wrote:
Insaeldor wrote:I still hate Manning because the day she got out I was doing crossing guard at the school down the road from the base she was at and almost got my shit kicked in my a news van.



What? This doesn't make sense.

Simple cause an effect.

I work I worked at a school by where she was incarsersted, I did morning and afternoon crossing guard, a van associated with a news organization (some fox local stations for mid west Kansas I think) almost ran a red light while I was doing my cross walk stuff in an attempt to get a report out by the base, probably in the strip mall parking lot, more accurately the one that services the 7-eleven.
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Postby Neutraligon » Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:51 pm

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Can I suggest a good quality property in Maryland to live with your new sweetie Manning?

I hear Maryland is a lovely place.

I'm from Washington DC. Maryland's beautiful, but I'm required by loyalty to say it sucks

Hmm Depends on where you are in Maryland, I would not call Rockville Pike all that beautiful. We do have our nice parks and the such though.
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