Trump MAGAthread X - Follow the Money

[Uiiop]

It's not nonsensical. ISPs will wreck havoc on the internet with draconian business deals that help raise big business while killing small business and stifile free speech and free expression. They have the tools and the business incentive to do this as a way extort us further for more money. These are indeed the end times for the internet as we know it.

If you didn't want this to happen, maybe you shouldn't have voted to put a Republican POTUS in office, thereby allowing Republican controlling appointments to the FCC.

He probably already gets it. No point banging on this for weeks.

[Internationalist Bastard]

Which brings us full circle and back to the fact that people like you helped cause this.

Sorry but I'm not going to get outraged over something I can't control, I didn't vote for Trump and I sent letters and calls off to my reps expressing my support for the rules. That's all I can do short of running for office myself and I really don't wanna do that so I'm just going to be an adult and move on.

My state went fucking blue. So why does my vote that didn't win my state matter? And why the fuck should we move on? This was an attack on democracy! We can't let this stand.

There are worse things that have been done. Why is this the catalyst for revolution?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Which brings us full circle and back to the fact that people like you helped cause this.

Sorry but I'm not going to get outraged over something I can't control, I didn't vote for Trump and I sent letters and calls off to my reps expressing my support for the rules. That's all I can do short of running for office myself and I really don't wanna do that so I'm just going to be an adult and move on.

:/ As much as i disagree with flutters on this there's no need to rub it in. It's not like it's impossible for a Hilary voter to make the same points.

I'm just bothered by his outrage when Bernie or Busters explicitly voted for the guy who caused all this just because their guy didn't win a nomination. Sure Flutters is from a blue state but how many Bernie or Busters voted for Trump in the Rust Belt solely to spite the party? How many in Florida? How many just sat out?

People need to understand their votes (or lack thereof) have consequences and this is one of them. Next time they should try voting for someone they actually agree with.

[The Flutterlands]

My state went fucking blue. So why does my vote that didn't win my state matter? And why the fuck should we move on? This was an attack on democracy! We can't let this stand.

There are worse things that have been done. Why is this the catalyst for revolution?

Because it has shown what oligarchy we have become that the FCC willingly and blatantly ignored the American people by robbing us of our internet rights and giving the keys to big corporations who wish to extort us for more money in the worse possible ways. Where do we draw the line before the time for revolution is too late?

[Washington Resistance Army]

There are worse things that have been done. Why is this the catalyst for revolution?

Because it has shown what oligarchy we have become that the FCC willingly and blatantly ignored the American people by robbing us of our internet rights and giving the keys to big corporations who wish to extort us for more money. Where do we draw the line before the time for revolution is too late?

That's really not a can of worms you want to open.

[Uiiop]

:/ As much as i disagree with flutters on this there's no need to rub it in. It's not like it's impossible for a Hilary voter to make the same points.

I'm just bothered by his outrage when Bernie or Busters explicitly voted for the guy who caused all this just because their guy didn't win a nomination. Sure Flutters is from a blue state but how many Bernie or Busters voted for Trump in the Rust Belt solely to spite the party? How many in Florida? How many just sat out?

People need to understand their votes (or lack thereof) have consequences and this is one of them. Next time they should try voting for someone they actually agree with.

He already said he regrets it. Adding more salt into the wound wouldn't change what he did. Someone who has recognized their fuck-up shouldn't be still given this much shit just because they're outraged at the aftereffects without flagellating themselves.

[G-Tech Corporation]

Because it has shown what oligarchy we have become that the FCC willingly and blatantly ignored the American people by robbing us of our internet rights and giving the keys to big corporations who wish to extort us for more money. Where do we draw the line before the time for revolution is too late?

That's really not a can of worms you want to open.

Flutters v. Oligarchy.

Round one, fight!

*instant fatality*

[Computer Lab]

Flutters, do you not understand just how bad revolutions and civil wars are?

[The Flutterlands]

Flutters, do you not understand just how bad revolutions and civil wars are?

Do you not understand how bad oligarchies and plutocracies are? We need a free and open internet in order to have a free society in this digital age. We are no longer digitally free without Net Neutrality and to add further insult the FCC added a last minute provision stating that States cant make their own NN laws ether. So much for fucking State Rights!

[Computer Lab]

Flutters, do you not understand just how bad revolutions and civil wars are?

Do you not understand how bad oligarchies and plutocracies are? We need a free and open internet in order to have a free society in this digital age. We are no longer digitally free without Net Neutrality and to add further insult the FCC added a last minute provision stating that States cant make their own NN laws ether. So much for fucking State Rights!

Take a trip to Syria and see if you think that is worth it for some regulations that will be reinstated in less than a decade.

Either you don't really understand what revolution means or you recognize that you are exaggerating the problem. If the former, then please read some books on various revolutions and learn what you are really calling for. If the latter, please stop being so melodramatic. You aren't convincing anyone of anything, just irritating people. If you want to rant, spin up a WordPress or something.

[The Flutterlands]

Do you not understand how bad oligarchies and plutocracies are? We need a free and open internet in order to have a free society in this digital age. We are no longer digitally free without Net Neutrality and to add further insult the FCC added a last minute provision stating that States cant make their own NN laws ether. So much for fucking State Rights!

Take a trip to Syria and see if you think that is worth it for some regulations that will be reinstated in less than a decade.

Either you don't really understand what revolution means or you recognize that you are exaggerating the problem. If the former, then please read some books on various revolutions and learn what you are really calling for. If the latter, please stop being so melodramatic. You aren't convincing anyone of anything, just irritating people. If you want to rant, spin up a WordPress or something.

You clearly down care about how democratically and economically harmful getting rid of Net Neutrality is so you, then?

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Take a trip to Syria and see if you think that is worth it for some regulations that will be reinstated in less than a decade.

Either you don't really understand what revolution means or you recognize that you are exaggerating the problem. If the former, then please read some books on various revolutions and learn what you are really calling for. If the latter, please stop being so melodramatic. You aren't convincing anyone of anything, just irritating people. If you want to rant, spin up a WordPress or something.

You clearly down care about how democratically and economically harmful getting rid of Net Neutrality is so you, then?

I care a lot more about the lives of the tens of thousands of people who would die in an American civil war, if not hundreds of thousands.

[Cekoviu]

I mean we still have that, it'll just take six years to load

No fucking jokes about this. This is not a joking matter. They just killed digital democracy and the digital economy in great big undemocratic hiest and give away to big telecom companies. Fuck them all to hell.

You're overreacting. It hasn't even taken effect yet.
And it wasn't as hellish as you make it out to be before net neutrality, I don't see why it will be that terrible after its repeal.

[Computer Lab]

Take a trip to Syria and see if you think that is worth it for some regulations that will be reinstated in less than a decade.

Either you don't really understand what revolution means or you recognize that you are exaggerating the problem. If the former, then please read some books on various revolutions and learn what you are really calling for. If the latter, please stop being so melodramatic. You aren't convincing anyone of anything, just irritating people. If you want to rant, spin up a WordPress or something.

You clearly down care about how democratically and economically harmful getting rid of Net Neutrality is so you, then?

Ah yes, admonish me for failing to rant. I'd very much like for Net Neutrality to be in place, but it isn't worth a fucking war. Very little is worth a war.

Also, we had a functioning democracy before the internet. It'll continue to function even without net neutrality.

[G-Tech Corporation]

You clearly down care about how democratically and economically harmful getting rid of Net Neutrality is so you, then?

I care a lot more about the lives of the tens of thousands of people who would die in an American civil war, if not hundreds of thousands.

^ this.

Losing net neutrality is a problem, sure. But it isn’t worth a violent uprising, certainly. As Cek said, before there was net neutrality things weren’t fucked too badly, so the odds are that even without net neutrality things won’t get too fucked. A chilling effect on free speech of dubious magnitude isn’t worth killing anyone over. Let alone burning down a country.

[The Flutterlands]

I care a lot more about the lives of the tens of thousands of people who would die in an American civil war, if not hundreds of thousands.

^ this.

Losing net neutrality is a problem, sure. But it isn’t worth a violent uprising, certainly. As Cek said, before there was net neutrality things weren’t fucked too badly, so the odds are that even without net neutrality things won’t get too fucked. A chilling effect on free speech of dubious magnitude isn’t worth killing anyone over. Let alone burning down a country.

It is the complete principle of this whole Goddamn thing. We are intitled to a free and open internet without ISPs controlling what we say and do. Why are you guys treating this like a minor inconvenience rather than an assault on the internet we know and love so much?

[Washington Resistance Army]

^ this.

Losing net neutrality is a problem, sure. But it isn’t worth a violent uprising, certainly. As Cek said, before there was net neutrality things weren’t fucked too badly, so the odds are that even without net neutrality things won’t get too fucked. A chilling effect on free speech of dubious magnitude isn’t worth killing anyone over. Let alone burning down a country.

It is the complete principle of this whole Goddamn thing. We are intitled to a free and open internet without ISPs controlling what we say and do. Why are you guys treating this like a minor inconvenience rather than an assault on the internet we know and love so much?

You aren't entitled to anything.

[Bakery Hill]

Take a trip to Syria and see if you think that is worth it for some regulations that will be reinstated in less than a decade.

Either you don't really understand what revolution means or you recognize that you are exaggerating the problem. If the former, then please read some books on various revolutions and learn what you are really calling for. If the latter, please stop being so melodramatic. You aren't convincing anyone of anything, just irritating people. If you want to rant, spin up a WordPress or something.

You clearly down care about how democratically and economically harmful getting rid of Net Neutrality is so you, then?

"When we weighed up the lives of our fellow citizens and the right to quickly and cheaply access hentai, the choice finally became clear"

[Soldati Senza Confini]

You clearly down care about how democratically and economically harmful getting rid of Net Neutrality is so you, then?

You do realize that your plan of revolution against the government is both undemocratic and more economically harmful than Net Neutrality, right?

[G-Tech Corporation]

^ this.

Losing net neutrality is a problem, sure. But it isn’t worth a violent uprising, certainly. As Cek said, before there was net neutrality things weren’t fucked too badly, so the odds are that even without net neutrality things won’t get too fucked. A chilling effect on free speech of dubious magnitude isn’t worth killing anyone over. Let alone burning down a country.

It is the complete principle of this whole Goddamn thing. We are intitled to a free and open internet without ISPs controlling what we say and do. Why are you guys treating this like a minor inconvenience rather than an assault on the internet we know and love so much?

Well, you see Flutters, I am part of the oligarchy. I own stock in an ISP. Thus I am part of the problem. The insidious deeply plotted and treacherous problem.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

^ this.

Losing net neutrality is a problem, sure. But it isn’t worth a violent uprising, certainly. As Cek said, before there was net neutrality things weren’t fucked too badly, so the odds are that even without net neutrality things won’t get too fucked. A chilling effect on free speech of dubious magnitude isn’t worth killing anyone over. Let alone burning down a country.

It is the complete principle of this whole Goddamn thing. We are intitled to a free and open internet without ISPs controlling what we say and do. Why are you guys treating this like a minor inconvenience rather than an assault on the internet we know and love so much?

Because it's not a big deal, like G-Tech said.

It's a bad thing, yes, but it's not "let's have a revolution" level bad.

[Arlenton]

It is the complete principle of this whole Goddamn thing. We are intitled to a free and open internet without ISPs controlling what we say and do. Why are you guys treating this like a minor inconvenience rather than an assault on the internet we know and love so much?

Because it's not a big deal, like G-Tech said.

It's a bad thing, yes, but it's not "let's have a revolution" level bad.

Implying they'd even win a revolution.

[Computer Lab]

You clearly down care about how democratically and economically harmful getting rid of Net Neutrality is so you, then?

"When we weighed up the lives of our fellow citizens and the right to quickly and cheaply access hentai, the choice finally became clear"

Truly an easy choice.

You clearly down care about how democratically and economically harmful getting rid of Net Neutrality is so you, then?

You do realize that your plan of revolution against the government is both undemocratic and more economically harmful than Net Neutrality, right?

Madness. Clearly revolution is the best for government.

^ this.

Losing net neutrality is a problem, sure. But it isn’t worth a violent uprising, certainly. As Cek said, before there was net neutrality things weren’t fucked too badly, so the odds are that even without net neutrality things won’t get too fucked. A chilling effect on free speech of dubious magnitude isn’t worth killing anyone over. Let alone burning down a country.

It is the complete principle of this whole Goddamn thing. We are intitled to a free and open internet without ISPs controlling what we say and do. Why are you guys treating this like a minor inconvenience rather than an assault on the internet we know and love so much?

At least you openly claim you're entitled. You aren't entitled to shit. The internet is a fucking luxury. A useful tool? Yes. A human right? Fuck that noise.

You suddenly care about human rights? Work on fixing the foreclosure crisis. Housing is an actual human right, but people don't give a fuck about that. I recognize this is whataboutism, but you certainly aren't making rational arguments, so why should I care about that?

[Blakk Metal]

They aren't cutting taxes because their donors told them to, they're cutting them because they're disciples of St. Rand. They religiously believe all economic growth is caused by a few magical Alphas and that everyone else is a bunch of worthless ungreatful leaches who deserve what they get.

No that’s just the bullshit philosophy they use to cover the fact they’re pandering to their donors.

You've got cause and effect all wrong. They had their ideology first, then they got support from people who benefited. If the Tea Party, which is the GOP establishment at this point, really was just the servants of the wealthy, why did it nearly wreck the economy on two separate occasions and repeatedly fail to pass a health care bill for ideological and political reasons?

[Arlenton]

^ this.

Losing net neutrality is a problem, sure. But it isn’t worth a violent uprising, certainly. As Cek said, before there was net neutrality things weren’t fucked too badly, so the odds are that even without net neutrality things won’t get too fucked. A chilling effect on free speech of dubious magnitude isn’t worth killing anyone over. Let alone burning down a country.

It is the complete principle of this whole Goddamn thing. We are intitled to a free and open internet without ISPs controlling what we say and do. Why are you guys treating this like a minor inconvenience rather than an assault on the internet we know and love so much?

If ISP don't use an internet police force to eliminate left-wing influence on the internet, then eliminating Net Neutrality will be an utter failure.