Wrath of the North (OOC/MT/Closed)

[New Roma Republic]

Being an aviation enthusiast, mixing fighter jets with magic is a big no-no. I prefer realistic aerial warfare.

Anyway, Tawwassen, what's your nation's main goal in this war?



Aerial warfare ain't boring, atleast for me. It's just rather quick paced since it's basically supersonic metal birds flying and turning while launching missiles at each other.

Yes, it's boring.

If it was jet fighters having to go between supersonic and subsonic speeds to actually dogfight, that would be fucking awesome.
It'll be like WWII, except with modern gen 4 fighters.

But instead it's:

*keeps aiming thingy on aircraft that only the radar sees*
*pushes button*
*missile fire*
*enemy dot disappears*

"Oh how fun. ... Such wow. ... Yay."

Ok, so I want you to send out 4th gen fighters armed solely with cannons, and I'll send out 4th gen armed solely with missiles. Let's see who wins that engagement

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Nation Name: Imperial Republic of New Rome
Government Type: Unitary Semi-presidential Democratic Republic
Leader: Caesar Cornelia Ayanami
Side:

[ ] Tawwassen
[ ] Atkemri
[X] Other (Specify)

Will remain neutral until a better understanding to the sides involved is gained, then may join in.

[Tawwassen]

Exactly. The belief of the Emperor is that Yughana is destined to rule over all Afrikan people and expand Afrikan lands to encompass all of the universe.

Sorry, but I think those goals would completely change the conflict and take it up to a much larger scale than I think Atkemri or I intended it to be (Unless I'm wrong, Atkemri, in which case let me know). At least at this stage

Ok, so I want you to send out 4th gen fighters armed solely with cannons, and I'll send out 4th gen armed solely with missiles. Let's see who wins that engagement

That issue has been dealt with

Accepted

[Sankt-Mikhail]

So is it alright if I just handwave my observer on to your capital ship, Tawwassen? Pretend like he's been there the whole time?

[Tawwassen]

So is it alright if I just handwave my observer on to your capital ship, Tawwassen? Pretend like he's been there the whole time?

I suppose we could assume he was allowed onto the ship at some point or another

[Greater Carloso]

Exactly. The belief of the Emperor is that Yughana is destined to rule over all Afrikan people and expand Afrikan lands to encompass all of the universe.

Sorry, but I think those goals would completely change the conflict and take it up to a much larger scale than I think Atkemri or I intended it to be (Unless I'm wrong, Atkemri, in which case let me know). At least at this stage

Ok, so I want you to send out 4th gen fighters armed solely with cannons, and I'll send out 4th gen armed solely with missiles. Let's see who wins that engagement

That issue has been dealt with

Accepted

I assure you, Yughana is more backwards than Somalia.

Plus, in reality only Tawwassen will be targeted. Yughana currently has no capability to attack Atemkri.

[Valgora]

Nation Name: Imperial Republic of New Rome
Government Type: Unitary Semi-presidential Democratic Republic
Leader: Caesar Cornelia Ayanami
Side:

[ ] Tawwassen
[ ] Atkemri
[X] Other (Specify)

Will remain neutral until a better understanding to the sides involved is gained, then may join in.

Information that would most likely be somewhat known in character:
Atkemri blockaded three nations.
Valgora, Tawwassen, and Bendicion because all three gave speeches expressing support of some anarchists in Volkmacht.
Valgora and Tawwassen responded by firing on the enemy fleet.

The blockades have left (obviously) and Valgora's motivation is revenge; I don't know what the motivation is of the other two, but I assume revenge as well.

And, knowledge that would be much more difficult to know IC wise:
Tawwassen and Bendicion were actively supporting the anarchists.
Valgora was only selling weapons to Tawwassen, and was not directly (or really indirectly) involved with the anarchists.

[Atkemri]

Exactly. The belief of the Emperor is that Yughana is destined to rule over all Afrikan people and expand Afrikan lands to encompass all of the universe.

Sorry, but I think those goals would completely change the conflict and take it up to a much larger scale than I think Atkemri or I intended it to be (Unless I'm wrong, Atkemri, in which case let me know). At least at this stage

I'm fine with it.

[New Roma Republic]

Nation Name: Imperial Republic of New Rome
Government Type: Unitary Semi-presidential Democratic Republic
Leader: Caesar Cornelia Ayanami
Side:

[ ] Tawwassen
[ ] Atkemri
[X] Other (Specify)

Will remain neutral until a better understanding to the sides involved is gained, then may join in.

Information that would most likely be somewhat known in character:
Atkemri blockaded three nations.
Valgora, Tawwassen, and Bendicion because all three gave speeches expressing support of some anarchists in Volkmacht.
Valgora and Tawwassen responded by firing on the enemy fleet.

The blockades have left (obviously) and Valgora's motivation is revenge; I don't know what the motivation is of the other two, but I assume revenge as well.

And, knowledge that would be much more difficult to know IC wise:
Tawwassen and Bendicion were actively supporting the anarchists.
Valgora was only selling weapons to Tawwassen, and was not directly (or really indirectly) involved with the anarchists.

Cool, thanks. I wasn't sure if Tawwassen was actually supporting the terrorists, or if it was only an accusation. It looks like I'm leaning toward Atkemri

[Allanea]

It's worth saying here - I had to do some research to find this out - that the anarchists of Volkmacht are pretty morally dubious (they've attacked civilians repeatedly, and I think are meant to be a sort of pastiche of the worst elements of left-anarchism IRL). So expressing support of these people on a government level is highly suspicious.

[Sankt-Mikhail]

Sorry, but I think those goals would completely change the conflict and take it up to a much larger scale than I think Atkemri or I intended it to be (Unless I'm wrong, Atkemri, in which case let me know). At least at this stage

That issue has been dealt with

Accepted

I assure you, Yughana is more backwards than Somalia.

Plus, in reality only Tawwassen will be targeted. Yughana currently has no capability to attack Atemkri.

A nation more backwards than Somalia is capable of targeting a nation half a world a way but can't attack one on it's own continent?

Did I read that right?

Information that would most likely be somewhat known in character:
Atkemri blockaded three nations.
Valgora, Tawwassen, and Bendicion because all three gave speeches expressing support of some anarchists in Volkmacht.
Valgora and Tawwassen responded by firing on the enemy fleet.

The blockades have left (obviously) and Valgora's motivation is revenge; I don't know what the motivation is of the other two, but I assume revenge as well.

And, knowledge that would be much more difficult to know IC wise:
Tawwassen and Bendicion were actively supporting the anarchists.
Valgora was only selling weapons to Tawwassen, and was not directly (or really indirectly) involved with the anarchists.

Cool, thanks. I wasn't sure if Tawwassen was actually supporting the terrorists, or if it was only an accusation. It looks like I'm leaning toward Atkemri

Well, ICly it is just accusations at the moment. Unless I'm mistaken, Atkemri doesn't have any proof of Tawwassen's involvement with the anarchists. Suspicions alone aren't enough to justify a blockade of Tawwassen's capital and violate it's sovereign territorial waters.

It's worth saying here - I had to do some research to find this out - that the anarchists of Volkmacht are pretty morally dubious (they've attacked civilians repeatedly, and I think are meant to be a sort of pastiche of the worst elements of left-anarchism IRL). So expressing support of these people on a government level is highly suspicious.

That may be, but that doesn't necessarily mean material support. Again, it's all just suspicions. It's conjecture.

[Tawwassen]

Sorry, but I think those goals would completely change the conflict and take it up to a much larger scale than I think Atkemri or I intended it to be (Unless I'm wrong, Atkemri, in which case let me know). At least at this stage

That issue has been dealt with

Accepted

I assure you, Yughana is more backwards than Somalia.

Plus, in reality only Tawwassen will be targeted. Yughana currently has no capability to attack Atemkri.

If Atkemri is ok with it... But by targeting Tawwassen, do you mean our men in Atkemri or not?

[Atkemri]

Sorry, but I think those goals would completely change the conflict and take it up to a much larger scale than I think Atkemri or I intended it to be (Unless I'm wrong, Atkemri, in which case let me know). At least at this stage

That issue has been dealt with

Accepted

I assure you, Yughana is more backwards than Somalia.

Plus, in reality only Tawwassen will be targeted. Yughana currently has no capability to attack Atemkri.

Wait I am in Africa and Tawwassen is in Canada and a nation more backwards than Somalia can attack them but not the one on their own continent??????

[Tawwassen]

Cool, thanks. I wasn't sure if Tawwassen was actually supporting the terrorists, or if it was only an accusation. It looks like I'm leaning toward Atkemri

Technically I was , but at this point there was no real hard evidence to suggest that I was. It was all just suspicion.

[Sankt-Mikhail]

Cool, thanks. I wasn't sure if Tawwassen was actually supporting the terrorists, or if it was only an accusation. It looks like I'm leaning toward Atkemri

Technically I was , but at this point there was no real hard evidence to suggest that I was. It was all just suspicion.

Exactly. Innocent until proven guilty.

[Allanea]

Technically I was , but at this point there was no real hard evidence to suggest that I was. It was all just suspicion.

Exactly. Innocent until proven guilty.

That works in trials but not in foreign relations.

[Valgora]

Exactly. Innocent until proven guilty.

That works in trials but not in foreign relations.

But blockading a nation because of a speech and then claiming that attacking them is an act of war without realizing that a blockade is an act of war, is worse than a speech.

[Tawwassen]

Exactly. Innocent until proven guilty.

That works in trials but not in foreign relations.

If you're going to blockade someone, you do need a better reason than, "They said something good about someone we don't like"

[Allanea]

That works in trials but not in foreign relations.

But blockading a nation because of a speech and then claiming that attacking them is an act of war without realizing that a blockade is an act of war, is worse than a speech.

That is not how my nation will view it.

[Valgora]

Has Tawwassen already landed soldiers on the land, or are they in the middle of doing that?

[Valgora]

But blockading a nation because of a speech and then claiming that attacking them is an act of war without realizing that a blockade is an act of war, is worse than a speech.

That is not how my nation will view it.

So an act of war is ok, but a speech is not?

"They gave a speech that is positive about someone we don't like. Let's blockade them. It's not an act of war, but them retaliating is."
That's literally what happened, more or less.

[Sankt-Mikhail]

But blockading a nation because of a speech and then claiming that attacking them is an act of war without realizing that a blockade is an act of war, is worse than a speech.

That is not how my nation will view it.

Then your nation is more upside down than Australia, sorry to say.

[Sankt-Mikhail]

Atkemri, I find your lack of ORBATs disturbing...

[Allanea]

That is not how my nation will view it.

So an act of war is ok, but a speech is not?

"They gave a speech that is positive about someone we don't like. Let's blockade them. It's not an act of war, but them retaliating is."
That's literally what happened, more or less.

You forget the part where we suspect them of aiding terrorists. But we'll see.

[Tawwassen]

Has Tawwassen already landed soldiers on the land, or are they in the middle of doing that?

We're in the process of landing them. The first wave just arrived on the beach

[Sankt-Mikhail]

So an act of war is ok, but a speech is not?

"They gave a speech that is positive about someone we don't like. Let's blockade them. It's not an act of war, but them retaliating is."
That's literally what happened, more or less.

You forget the part where we suspect them of aiding terrorists. But we'll see.

I suspect my mom has a hearing problem, but you don't see me buying her hearing aids.

Your government sounds kinda reckless, tbh.