Such a stretch that you can't demonstrate how they aren't the same right?
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by Salus Maior » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:01 pm
by New haven america » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:01 pm
Keshiland wrote:New haven america wrote:Protection doesn't always work and you shouldn't be punished for having consenting sex.
I love how a lot of pro-lifers think that having kids should be used as a punishment. Yeah, because that's gonna help your case.
We are not saying kids are punishments. We are saying if you don't want to have them then don't have sex. There are other ways to get your sexual pleasure with out sowing your seeds to someone else.
by Katganistan » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:03 pm
Neutraligon wrote:So anyone else think this runs afoul of the undue burden portion of the Supreme Court ruling?
by Keshiland » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:06 pm
New haven america wrote:Keshiland wrote:
We are not saying kids are punishments. We are saying if you don't want to have them then don't have sex. There are other ways to get your sexual pleasure with out sowing your seeds to someone else.
If you don't want to be raped, don't dress like a slut.
If you don't want to be poor, just stop being poor.
If you don't want to get abused, just stop being abused.
This is literally you right now.
by Katganistan » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:06 pm
by New haven america » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:07 pm
Neutraligon wrote:So anyone else think this runs afoul of the undue burden portion of the Supreme Court ruling?
by Godular » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:07 pm
Keshiland wrote:New haven america wrote:If you don't want to be raped, don't dress like a slut.
If you don't want to be poor, just stop being poor.
If you don't want to get abused, just stop being abused.
This is literally you right now.
You can't avoid rape by dressing conservatively
You can't aviod being poor buy just applying to a good paying job
you can't avoid being abused by acting differently
You CAN avoid having kids by not having sex!
by Katganistan » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:07 pm
Gwendilynne Farrar wrote:I am Pro Life, in my Opinion Abortion is Murder Plain and Simple.
by Genivaria » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:08 pm
Katganistan wrote:Keshiland wrote:
This is not texas it wont take 12 hours to get to one out of state it will take 2 at most.
Are you going to drive them? Provide bus or train or airfare? Put them up at a hotel because they need to go out of state and stay overnight? Because you're seriously not going to cite needing "hospital standards" and expect someone to make a four hour round trip, have a procedure, and go home ten minutes later, are you?
by The New California Republic » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:08 pm
Keshiland wrote:You CAN avoid having kids by not having sex!
by Vodahmin » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:08 pm
If your position basically boils down to "If you have ever behaved illogically in your life fuck you and I have no sympathy for you" then your position is stupid.
by New haven america » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:09 pm
Keshiland wrote:New haven america wrote:If you don't want to be raped, don't dress like a slut.
If you don't want to be poor, just stop being poor.
If you don't want to get abused, just stop being abused.
This is literally you right now.
1.You can't avoid rape by dressing conservatively
1.You can't aviod being poor buy just applying to a good paying job
1.you can't avoid being abused by acting differently
2.You CAN avoid having kids by not having sex!
by Keshiland » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:09 pm
Genivaria wrote:Katganistan wrote:Are you going to drive them? Provide bus or train or airfare? Put them up at a hotel because they need to go out of state and stay overnight? Because you're seriously not going to cite needing "hospital standards" and expect someone to make a four hour round trip, have a procedure, and go home ten minutes later, are you?
I love how he uses "this is not Texas" as an argument while supporting the same bullshit that made the situation in Texas even possible.
by Genivaria » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:10 pm
Vodahmin wrote:If your position basically boils down to "If you have ever behaved illogically in your life fuck you and I have no sympathy for you" then your position is stupid.
You are missing my point, yes people make stupid decisions but if you are responsible you would realize that a mistake was made but you must live with that and learn from your mistake. I have sympathy for the ones who make this mistake, but we have to learn from it and grow as people, not complain an whine.
by New haven america » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:10 pm
by Tinhampton » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:12 pm
by Godular » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:12 pm
by Katganistan » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:15 pm
Vassenor wrote:So to all the people saying that abortion should be illegal: Are you all willing to fund the welfare programs that said parent may require after birth?
by Sovaal » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:16 pm
by Keshiland » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:16 pm
by Genivaria » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:19 pm
Keshiland wrote:Tinhampton wrote:Erm... what about places like New York State? Why is size a legitimate excuse to illegitimise the undue burden?
Becuase if say rhode island passed a law that banned some service it only would take about 30min to get out of the state. If it take you less then 4 hours to leave then it is not a problem. Now if Alaska did something like that then yeah making a 24 hour drive is a burdon but still morally bad.
by Katganistan » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:20 pm
by Tinhampton » Fri Sep 08, 2017 4:21 pm
Keshiland wrote:Tinhampton wrote:Erm... what about places like New York State? Why is size a legitimate excuse to illegitimise the undue burden?
Becuase if say rhode island passed a law that banned some service it only would take about 30min to get out of the state. If it take you less then 4 hours to leave then it is not a problem. Now if Alaska did something like that then yeah making a 24 hour drive is a burdon but still morally bad.
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