by Lazarene Government » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:47 pm
by Cormactopia Prime » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:49 pm
by Rolandarmstrong » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:49 pm
by Rolandarmstrong » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:50 pm
Cormactopia Prime wrote:So Funkadelia has been removed from office according to legal procedure then?
by Cormactopia Prime » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:51 pm
by Rolandarmstrong » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:52 pm
Cormactopia Prime wrote:Rolandarmstrong wrote:Sort of. Yes, but he is still on-site delegate.
What does "sort of" mean? Can someone from this "government-in-exile" please explain the legal procedure for removing the Sovereign from office and answer with a "yes" or a "no" whether that procedure was followed? It isn't a hard question, and yet is has been repeatedly evaded.
by Lazarene Government » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:53 pm
Cormactopia Prime wrote:Rolandarmstrong wrote:Sort of. Yes, but he is still on-site delegate.
What does "sort of" mean? Can someone from this "government-in-exile" please explain the legal procedure for removing the Sovereign from office and answer with a "yes" or a "no" whether that procedure was followed? It isn't a hard question, and yet is has been repeatedly evaded.
by Rolandarmstrong » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:54 pm
Lazarene Government wrote:Cormactopia Prime wrote:What does "sort of" mean? Can someone from this "government-in-exile" please explain the legal procedure for removing the Sovereign from office and answer with a "yes" or a "no" whether that procedure was followed? It isn't a hard question, and yet is has been repeatedly evaded.
We do not regard him as the legitimate Sovereign, given his flagrant violation of the Mandate and betrayal of the region. However, a formal recall vote may soon be organized as soon as the setting up of the infrastructure of our government is complete.
by Escade » Mon Jul 24, 2017 2:55 pm
Cormactopia Prime wrote:Rolandarmstrong wrote:Sort of. Yes, but he is still on-site delegate.
What does "sort of" mean? Can someone from this "government-in-exile" please explain the legal procedure for removing the Sovereign from office and answer with a "yes" or a "no" whether that procedure was followed? It isn't a hard question, and yet it has been repeatedly evaded.
Cormactopia Prime wrote:Ikania wrote:So you concede at this point that the word of the law is entirely irrelevant and unnecessary to your perspective?
Does that surprise you? I place the best interests of Feeder and Sinker communities ahead of observation of the law on my list of priorities, and that's hardly news. What is important is that what needs to be done for Lazarus is done, and done decisively, not what the law says about it.
Laws exist to serve Feeder and Sinker communities. Feeder and Sinker communities do not exist to serve laws.
by Cormactopia Prime » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:03 pm
Lazarene Government wrote:Cormactopia Prime wrote:What does "sort of" mean? Can someone from this "government-in-exile" please explain the legal procedure for removing the Sovereign from office and answer with a "yes" or a "no" whether that procedure was followed? It isn't a hard question, and yet is has been repeatedly evaded.
We do not regard him as the legitimate Sovereign, given his flagrant violation of the Mandate and betrayal of the region. However, a formal recall vote may soon be organized as soon as the setting up of the infrastructure of our government is complete.
Escade wrote:From this discussion here:Cormactopia Prime wrote:Does that surprise you? I place the best interests of Feeder and Sinker communities ahead of observation of the law on my list of priorities, and that's hardly news. What is important is that what needs to be done for Lazarus is done, and done decisively, not what the law says about it.
Laws exist to serve Feeder and Sinker communities. Feeder and Sinker communities do not exist to serve laws.
Confusing to follow exactly what your thoughts are on the issue of laws.
by Escade » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:05 pm
by Cormactopia Prime » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:12 pm
Escade wrote:I miss when this whole Lazarus situation would be something that Miniluv reported on. Bring back Miniluv! Bringer of truth and justice the to the world! Or do we have to wait for the pendulum to swing back for that? How long do these ICs last? Some of them need time stamps so the rest of us can adjust.
by Farlandiay » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:23 pm
by Cormactopia Prime » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:26 pm
by Metal Mekhet » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:27 pm
by Escade » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:27 pm
Cormactopia Prime wrote:Escade wrote:I miss when this whole Lazarus situation would be something that Miniluv reported on. Bring back Miniluv! Bringer of truth and justice the to the world! Or do we have to wait for the pendulum to swing back for that? How long do these ICs last? Some of them need time stamps so the rest of us can adjust.
If the South Pacific and the sham "government-in-exile" would prefer to engage in off-topic personal attacks rather than engaging with actual arguments, I can't say I blame you, because your arguments are incoherent and don't stand up against the slightest scrutiny.
Be that as it may, I have no interest in engaging with your petty personal distractions, and you're just making yourselves look bad to other regions who are looking at all of this and aren't sure what to make of it. That is perhaps not a wise strategy since you're going to need huge military numbers, and won't get them if people don't like your faction because of its pettiness. So please, by all means, continue. But I'm not interested.
by Lazarene Government » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:29 pm
by Pentaga Giudici » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:31 pm
by Cormactopia Prime » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:35 pm
by Lazarene Government » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:36 pm
by The Sygian » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:37 pm
Escade wrote:I mean all of these Lazarus threads seem to be devolve\center into your posts or become about you. So at the end of the day which means they've been off-topic and off-brand for a while now.
I also amn't sure, beyond the personal attacks in which you are like super petty, whether you are offering military tips to the resistance or not. Clarify? Although, I have to say you would look so much better railing against the dark oppressive forces of darkness - gives your fire a Joan of Arc feel instead of whatever this is which tbh is kind of meh.
by Escade » Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:47 pm
The Sygian wrote:Escade wrote:I mean all of these Lazarus threads seem to be devolve\center into your posts or become about you. So at the end of the day which means they've been off-topic and off-brand for a while now.
I also amn't sure, beyond the personal attacks in which you are like super petty, whether you are offering military tips to the resistance or not. Clarify? Although, I have to say you would look so much better railing against the dark oppressive forces of darkness - gives your fire a Joan of Arc feel instead of whatever this is which tbh is kind of meh.
1. Cormac is a man with strong opinions on most situations. There's nothing wrong with that, as this is a very political game. None of his posts have been off topic, and in fact, they've been adding more brush to the flame and spicing things up a bit, and sparking more conversation, thus making things a hell of a lot more interesting. If you think his posts are off-topic, report it in moderation as a threadjack but as far as I am concerned, he has been a key element in these discussions offering very explicit opinions and material to each of his posts.
I also don't know what your deal is with thinking that every post Cormac makes is a "personal attack," because... they're not?
by The Sygian » Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:02 pm
Escade wrote:On the second point, I don't know what you're referring to because every was not mentioned in the post. So confused.
Escade wrote:How are you and where do you stand in this Lazerene version of Game of Thrones?
by Roavin » Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:06 pm
The Sygian wrote:I think I've made my stance pretty clear that I support Funkadelia as he remains the sitting in-game delegate that was rightfully elected by WA endorsement count, thus making him the de facto delegate of Lazarus. If Lazarus does not like him being the delegate, they can withdraw their endorsements. In the meantime, Funkadelia can search for external support to assist in raising his endorsement count.
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