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Which is your favorite sentient Star Wars race?

Wookies. Because fur is hot... And murder.
39
8%
Twi'leks. Because slugs are hot.
132
27%
Tusken Raiders. A little rape fantasy never hurt anybody.
33
7%
Jawas. Lots of little hands touching me is hot.
22
4%
Hutts. BIG. NASTY. RUDE. SWEATY. HOT.
13
3%
Ewoks. Because creepy ugly teddy bears are hot.
30
6%
Bothans. I hear they die a lot. And that's hot.
27
5%
Trandoshans. Because lizards are hot.
12
2%
Rodians. Because... I don't know anymore. Reptilian ant-eaters are hot?
13
3%
Other. Because my God there's a lot of alien species in Star Wars. And they're ALL hot.
171
35%
 
Total votes : 492

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:45 am

Salus Maior wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Yeah could have done being a bit more serious, like they were in Phantom Menace, by episode 3 and in the clone wars show they were just a joke.


Honestly they were pretty much played for laughs in the first one too.

True, but i could take them a bit more serious in that one. Phantom Menace was the only film where i took the droid army seriously, and thats mainly for the deployment scene which if im honest was kind of awesome.
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Postby Salus Maior » Mon Jun 12, 2017 4:49 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
Honestly they were pretty much played for laughs in the first one too.

True, but i could take them a bit more serious in that one. Phantom Menace was the only film where i took the droid army seriously, and thats mainly for the deployment scene which if im honest was kind of awesome.


It was pretty cool.
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Postby Dylar » Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:54 am

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Dylar wrote:According to this video I'm watching it seems that they've gotten rid of the tokens that you'd find on the ground for vehicles, and replaced it with a point system thing. So, if you have enough points, you can spend them on a vehicle, hero, a specialized trooper, or some weapons, etc., etc. Which makes me in love with it just a little bit more...bad thing is, is that they have Dee Bradley Baker voicing the clones and not Temuera Morrison, or any other voice actors...which means you're going to be hearing a lot of fake New Zealand accents telling you to "Scrap those clankers..." ugh...

It's Australian, and Baker actually did a really good job in TCW...

HERESY! Morrison and Sogliuzzo were the only good clone voices!
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Postby The first Galactic Republic » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:09 am

Dylar wrote:
New haven america wrote:It's Australian, and Baker actually did a really good job in TCW...

HERESY! Morrison and Sogliuzzo were the only good clone voices!

I thought the Clones sounded fine in Clone Wars but Morrison's acting is just really good.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:10 am

The first Galactic Republic wrote:
Dylar wrote:HERESY! Morrison and Sogliuzzo were the only good clone voices!

I thought the Clones sounded fine in Clone Wars but Morrison's acting is just really good.

He was awesome, but i thought Baker was fantastic at fleshing out the individual clones and giving them their own personalities in clone wars. The clones were one of my favourite parts of that show, if not my absolute favourite.
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Postby The first Galactic Republic » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:11 am

New haven america wrote:
Dylar wrote:According to this video I'm watching it seems that they've gotten rid of the tokens that you'd find on the ground for vehicles, and replaced it with a point system thing. So, if you have enough points, you can spend them on a vehicle, hero, a specialized trooper, or some weapons, etc., etc. Which makes me in love with it just a little bit more...bad thing is, is that they have Dee Bradley Baker voicing the clones and not Temuera Morrison, or any other voice actors...which means you're going to be hearing a lot of fake New Zealand accents telling you to "Scrap those clankers..." ugh...

It's Australian, and Baker actually did a really good job in TCW...

They meant that Termuera Morrison is from New Zealand.
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Postby The first Galactic Republic » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:12 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
The first Galactic Republic wrote:I thought the Clones sounded fine in Clone Wars but Morrison's acting is just really good.

He was awesome, but i thought Baker was fantastic at fleshing out the individual clones and giving them their own personalities in clone wars. The clones were one of my favourite parts of that show, if not my absolute favourite.

It's not like Morrison couldn't give individual characters personality. It's just that he never got the chance in the movies for the most part.

He did great with Jango Fett though. He doesn't seem exactly like the clone troopers. He also did a good job with Boss from Republic Commando, and the 501st narrator in Battlefront II.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:13 am

The first Galactic Republic wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:He was awesome, but i thought Baker was fantastic at fleshing out the individual clones and giving them their own personalities in clone wars. The clones were one of my favourite parts of that show, if not my absolute favourite.

It's not like Morrison couldn't give individual characters personality. It's just that he never got the chance in the movies for the most part.

He did great with Jango Fett though. He doesn't seem exactly like the clone troopers. He also did a good job with Boss from Republic Commando, and the 501st narrator in Battlefront II.

I agree, was not saying he couldnt give them personality as individuals.
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Postby Maichuko » Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:06 pm

Salus Maior wrote:Am I the only one who finds the Battle Droid related humor cringey?

Well,then again, I find pretty much the whole way they handled a droid army pretty cringey tbh.

Seems pretty cruel to program a battle droid with a sense of individuality that makes it awkwardly try to surrender and scream in terror when obviously outmatched. Especially one that dies as quickly as B1's.
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Postby Zanera » Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:10 pm

Maichuko wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:Am I the only one who finds the Battle Droid related humor cringey?

Well,then again, I find pretty much the whole way they handled a droid army pretty cringey tbh.

Seems pretty cruel to program a battle droid with a sense of individuality that makes it awkwardly try to surrender and scream in terror when obviously outmatched. Especially one that dies as quickly as B1's.


At least one of them should have an existential crisis by that point.

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Postby The first Galactic Republic » Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:12 pm

Zanera wrote:
Maichuko wrote:Seems pretty cruel to program a battle droid with a sense of individuality that makes it awkwardly try to surrender and scream in terror when obviously outmatched. Especially one that dies as quickly as B1's.


At least one of them should have an existential crisis by that point.

The OOM command Droid that fought the Gungans at the end of Epsiode 1 is Snoke.
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Postby Dylar » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:04 pm

The first Galactic Republic wrote:
Zanera wrote:
At least one of them should have an existential crisis by that point.

The OOM command Droid that fought the Gungans at the end of Epsiode 1 is Snoke.

OOM-9? Nah...wait...you may be on to something...
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Postby Eol Sha » Tue Jun 13, 2017 1:09 pm

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Postby The first Galactic Republic » Tue Jun 13, 2017 7:56 pm

We've all underestimated Obi-Wan.

Obi-Wan doesn't need to be on the high ground, the high ground just needs to exist in the battle; Obi-Wan knows that when he has the low ground, he really has the high ground, from a certain point of view. Look at his battle record:

Maul: Has low ground, wins
Dooku: No high ground, loses
Greivous: Has low ground, wins
Vader: Has high ground, wins
Vader rematch: No high ground, loses

Obi-Wan with the high/low ground is canonically the most powerful Jedi. This is fact. Had Yoda not denied his request with typical Jedi arrogance, he could have beat Palpatine in the Senate building, which housed a variety of different altitudes; this so that the Chancellor could always have the moral high ground in Senate debates. But Obi-wan didn't fight Palpatine, and Yoda soon learned that you can't cleave the Sheev in a normal 1v1.

As we all know, spinning is a good trick. However, only the Chosen one can spin outside of a starfighter. Palpatine tried spinning, but he lost (but this was intentional, as losing gave him the emotional high ground when Anakin arrived). The reason for this is that spinning provides a yin-yang approach (based in Eastern philosophy on balance), giving the spinner the high ground from above and below. This is why Obi-Wan was so emotional after defeating Vader on Mustafar; he expected to lose the high ground to the spin, but Anakin failed to maintain balance in the universe, symbolic of his fall to the dark side.

Anakin doesn't hate sand for the reasons he told Padme; all Jedi hate sand, as the battlefield can rapidly change between low and high ground. This is the only reason why Obi-Wan killed Maul in Rebels. This is also why Obi-Wan hates flying; in space, there is no high ground as there is no frame of reference from which there is a high or low ground, due to the lack of gravity. In ANH, Vader proves his newfound mastery by engaging Obi on perfectly even ground. However, he lets himself die on the Death Star so that he could train Luke from a higher plane of existence.
(Why was Vader so invested in the construction and maintenance of the Death Star? Because he knows Obi-wan can't have the high ground if there's no ground left.)

In Return of the Jedi, you can see that the Throne Room contains a variety of different altitudes; Palpatine placed these there to ensure Vader's defeat. However, Sheev failed to realize that his weakness was no ground, and should have covered that gaping pit that does nothing.

In conclusion, Obi-wan abuses spatial relativity and Buddhist doctrine in order to invoke his high-ground powers.
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Postby Eol Sha » Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:14 pm

The first Galactic Republic wrote:We've all underestimated Obi-Wan.

Obi-Wan doesn't need to be on the high ground, the high ground just needs to exist in the battle; Obi-Wan knows that when he has the low ground, he really has the high ground, from a certain point of view. Look at his battle record:

Maul: Has low ground, wins
Dooku: No high ground, loses
Greivous: Has low ground, wins
Vader: Has high ground, wins
Vader rematch: No high ground, loses

Obi-Wan with the high/low ground is canonically the most powerful Jedi. This is fact. Had Yoda not denied his request with typical Jedi arrogance, he could have beat Palpatine in the Senate building, which housed a variety of different altitudes; this so that the Chancellor could always have the moral high ground in Senate debates. But Obi-wan didn't fight Palpatine, and Yoda soon learned that you can't cleave the Sheev in a normal 1v1.

As we all know, spinning is a good trick. However, only the Chosen one can spin outside of a starfighter. Palpatine tried spinning, but he lost (but this was intentional, as losing gave him the emotional high ground when Anakin arrived). The reason for this is that spinning provides a yin-yang approach (based in Eastern philosophy on balance), giving the spinner the high ground from above and below. This is why Obi-Wan was so emotional after defeating Vader on Mustafar; he expected to lose the high ground to the spin, but Anakin failed to maintain balance in the universe, symbolic of his fall to the dark side.

Anakin doesn't hate sand for the reasons he told Padme; all Jedi hate sand, as the battlefield can rapidly change between low and high ground. This is the only reason why Obi-Wan killed Maul in Rebels. This is also why Obi-Wan hates flying; in space, there is no high ground as there is no frame of reference from which there is a high or low ground, due to the lack of gravity. In ANH, Vader proves his newfound mastery by engaging Obi on perfectly even ground. However, he lets himself die on the Death Star so that he could train Luke from a higher plane of existence.
(Why was Vader so invested in the construction and maintenance of the Death Star? Because he knows Obi-wan can't have the high ground if there's no ground left.)

In Return of the Jedi, you can see that the Throne Room contains a variety of different altitudes; Palpatine placed these there to ensure Vader's defeat. However, Sheev failed to realize that his weakness was no ground, and should have covered that gaping pit that does nothing.

In conclusion, Obi-wan abuses spatial relativity and Buddhist doctrine in order to invoke his high-ground powers.

TLDR: Obi-Wan is OP, plz nerf!
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Postby New haven america » Tue Jun 13, 2017 8:51 pm

The first Galactic Republic wrote:
New haven america wrote:It's Australian, and Baker actually did a really good job in TCW...

They meant that Termuera Morrison is from New Zealand.

No they weren't, they were talking about the clone's accent in TCW.

He incorrectly stated that they had a NZ accent... they didn't, they had an Australian accent, Baker is actually kinda famous for it (See, Numbah 4 from KND).
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Postby Radictistan » Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:29 pm

Someone please tell me I'm not the only one who thinks the concept of intelligent crystals that are in everything important is stupid.

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Postby Ism » Tue Jun 13, 2017 10:43 pm

Radictistan wrote:Someone please tell me I'm not the only one who thinks the concept of intelligent crystals that are in everything important is stupid.


What?

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Postby -Ocelot- » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:49 am

Radictistan wrote:Someone please tell me I'm not the only one who thinks the concept of intelligent crystals that are in everything important is stupid.


I like the old concept more and it's apparent that Disney wants to push SW into the territory of fantasy even further, contrary to what Lucas tried to do with the prequels, which had some sci-fi elements. Changing kyber crystal coloring from being a technical issue (actual color of the crystal) to a spiritual one, where the user gives the color to an alive, sentient crystal, is a step towards that direction. We are probably going to see more of that in Episode 8 in one form or another.

IMO it's too early to say whether Disney's changes to the universe will end up dumbing down SW or not.

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Postby Maichuko » Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:24 am

Radictistan wrote:Someone please tell me I'm not the only one who thinks the concept of intelligent crystals that are in everything important is stupid.

I haven't seen the phantom menace in, at least a decade, but wasn't it bacteria?
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Postby Alvecia » Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:28 am

Maichuko wrote:
Radictistan wrote:Someone please tell me I'm not the only one who thinks the concept of intelligent crystals that are in everything important is stupid.

I haven't seen the phantom menace in, at least a decade, but wasn't it bacteria?

I believe they're more like cells that develop around force containing beings. Acting as something of a conduit between the Force and the beings themselves.

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Postby Ascoobis » Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:14 am

Radictistan wrote:Someone please tell me I'm not the only one who thinks the concept of intelligent crystals that are in everything important is stupid.

Them being alive(With the Force?) doesn't mean they're intelligent. They just seem to channel the emotions of their user.

I would have preferred it if the color was due to geological composition instead of its user's emotions, personally.
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Postby Ism » Wed Jun 14, 2017 9:32 am

Ascoobis wrote:
Radictistan wrote:Someone please tell me I'm not the only one who thinks the concept of intelligent crystals that are in everything important is stupid.

Them being alive(With the Force?) doesn't mean they're intelligent. They just seem to channel the emotions of their user.

I would have preferred it if the color was due to geological composition instead of its users emotions, personally.


Agreed. This sounds really weird. And a little stupid.

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