The Manchester Attacks Megathread

[Lady Scylla]

I'm the Queen of England.

Sarcasm noted.

I'm a Homeland Security major, I wonder which one of us knows more about the law...

I'm sure you are.

[Ifreann]

I'm the Queen of England.

Sarcasm noted.

I'm a Homeland Security major, I wonder which one of us knows more about the law...

If you're bringing up your major rather than citing the relevant law or providing an example case or something like that then I wouldn't have very much faith in your knowledge of the law.

[Zanera]

I'm the Queen of England.

Sarcasm noted.

I'm a Homeland Security major, I wonder which one of us knows more about the law...

The people that have the knowledge and not the people that say they have the knowledge?

[Republic of the Roman Nations]

Sarcasm noted.

I'm a Homeland Security major, I wonder which one of us knows more about the law...

If you're bringing up your major rather than citing the relevant law or providing an example case or something like that then I wouldn't have very much faith in your knowledge of the law.

How about you look back a few messages and realize that we were talking about procedure.

We can definitely bring people he knew in for questioning, but that doesn't mean that they're under arrest.

[The East Marches II]

Most people would consixer Blowing up children trying to attend a concert, not a very nice thing to do either.

The war reparations imposed on Germany after WWI were totally a great, uncontroversial thing with no negative consequences.

You are correct, we were too kind to Germany after Versailles. We should have made it even more crippling and broken the country up into little bits. Lloyd George was a fool. Wilson more so.

[Ifreann]

When I don't answer something someone asks me, I just don't respond, or I'll just quote part of their post so it's clear that I'm just responding to that. I don't keep responding to them but not answering, just saying irrelevant shit like criticising them for cursing as if I'm the fucking morality police.

Did this family even live together? I think all the children are adults, they may well have all moved out. And even if they did, that's not a crime. It's entirely possible for people to live together without knowing everything that goes on in that house.

1. I am not a s good at this as you, you can feel free to ignore me if you don't like my ability to post and not put quotes in the proper places as you require

I'd be more inclined to ignore you for spending an hour trying to piss me off for some reason. I'll see.

2. That is for the investigation and trial to determine.

Rather a step back from your earlier claim that terrorism is this family's business.

[Uxupox]

Source for your claim?

Any cursory research will reveal enough, such as this article from the New York times from August of last year.

To quote Mr. Shane's first two lines;

"Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump do not agree on much, but Saudi Arabia may be an exception. She has deplored Saudi Arabia's support for "radical schools and mosques around the world that have set too many young people on a path towards extremism." He has called the Saudis "the world's biggest funders of terrorism."

The first American diplomat to serveas envoy to Muslim communities around the world visited 80 countries and concluded that the Saudi influence was destroying tolerant Islamic traditions. "If the Saudis do not cease what they are doing," the official, Farah Pandith, wrote last year, "there must be diplomatic, cultural, and economic consequences."

Read the whole article. It doesn't supply that the majority of attacks carried out by Islamic terrorists are sunni but it does provide the intricacies of Wabhism. Though I have to disagree with some of the information of the article as they are using the suggestions of a scholar (Who is both Iranian and Shia) at accusing Saudi Arabia of having errored in their translation of the Qu'ran.

[Imperializt Russia]

The war reparations imposed on Germany after WWI were totally a great, uncontroversial thing with no negative consequences.

You are correct, we were too kind to Germany after Versailles. We should have made it even more crippling and broken the country up into little bits. Lloyd George was a fool. Wilson more so.

I'm aware that you're shitposting, but you do know that France invaded Germany over reparations in the twenties, yes?

[Zanera]

If you're bringing up your major rather than citing the relevant law or providing an example case or something like that then I wouldn't have very much faith in your knowledge of the law.

How about you look back a few messages and realize that we were talking about procedure.

But you said 'knows more about the law' rather than 'knows more about the procedures', leading people to think you're trying to talk about knowledge of the law and things related to those laws, rather than knowledge of procedures and things related to procedures.

[The East Marches II]

You are correct, we were too kind to Germany after Versailles. We should have made it even more crippling and broken the country up into little bits. Lloyd George was a fool. Wilson more so.

I'm aware that you're shitposting, but you do know that France invaded Germany over reparations in the twenties, yes?

I'm not shitposting. The issue with your statement is there was a Germany left as an entity to invade!

[Uxupox]

I'm aware that you're shitposting, but you do know that France invaded Germany over reparations in the twenties, yes?

I'm not shitposting. The issue with your statement is there was a Germany left as an entity to invade!

Both the British and French failed to act when the signs where there.

[Republic of the Roman Nations]

How about you look back a few messages and realize that we were talking about procedure.

But you said 'knows more about the law' rather than 'knows more about the procedures', leading people to think you're trying to talk about knowledge of the law and things related to those laws, rather than knowledge of procedures and things related to procedures.

Go back further bud.

[Ifreann]

If you're bringing up your major rather than citing the relevant law or providing an example case or something like that then I wouldn't have very much faith in your knowledge of the law.

How about you look back a few messages and realize that we were talking about procedure.

I read the exchange. You were asked what kind of system sees parents arrested for the crimes of their children, and asked to explain, and then you asked about Scylla's education and offered your own education as evidence of your knowledge of the law.

[The East Marches II]

I'm not shitposting. The issue with your statement is there was a Germany left as an entity to invade!

Both the British and French failed to act when the signs where there.

Of course, that's a well known fact. I believe a harsher settlement at the end of the war could have avoided that. Germans like nothing more than hating each other.

[Republic of the Roman Nations]

How about you look back a few messages and realize that we were talking about procedure.

I read the exchange. You were asked what kind of system sees parents arrested for the crimes of their children, and asked to explain, and then you asked about Scylla's education and offered your own education as evidence of your knowledge of the law.

Further.

[Ethel mermania]

1. I am not a s good at this as you, you can feel free to ignore me if you don't like my ability to post and not put quotes in the proper places as you require

I'd be more inclined to ignore you for spending an hour trying to piss me off for some reason. I'll see.

2. That is for the investigation and trial to determine.

Rather a step back from your earlier claim that terrorism is this family's business.

According to the reports in the news, Terroism is the families business. I stand by that. However, even terrorists deserve a fair trial.

[Zanera]

But you said 'knows more about the law' rather than 'knows more about the procedures', leading people to think you're trying to talk about knowledge of the law and things related to those laws, rather than knowledge of procedures and things related to procedures.

Go back further bud.

I'm the Queen of England.

Sarcasm noted.

I'm a Homeland Security major, I wonder which one of us knows more about the law...

It was written as a direct reply to this post, where you flaunted your unproven knowledge of 'the law' rather than 'procedure'. I'd suspect if you were knowledgeable in this area, you would know proper terms for things instead of misleading people.

[Uxupox]

Both the British and French failed to act when the signs where there.

Of course, that's a well known fact. I believe a harsher settlement at the end of the war could have avoided that. Germans like nothing more than hating each other.

Maybe the split up of Germany to small states similar to that of the 1700's or 1800's was in order. Or maybe to act when they started re -militarization of both their armed forces and the Rhineland.

[Republic of the Roman Nations]

Go back further bud.

Sarcasm noted.

I'm a Homeland Security major, I wonder which one of us knows more about the law...

It was written as a direct reply to this post, where you flaunted your unproven knowledge of 'the law' rather than 'procedure'. I'd suspect if you were knowledgeable in this area, you would know proper terms for things instead of misleading people.

Let's start over.

What I'm saying is that we can bring people he knew in for questioning, that doesn't mean that they're under arrest.

Are you arguing that we can't?

Also law is procedural, there is a system you must go through.

[Taviana SSR]

This attack is a rudimentary form of anti-capitalist resistance that lack adequate leadership and direction. The proletariat must in Western countries unite and overthrow imperialist white power and I sympathize with the resistance coming from colonized people on every front on this planet. We should recognize the struggle of oppressed immigrants in Europe and around the world as part of the downtrodden masses of the world to end the parasitic relationship which binds oppressor and oppressed nations. This is a conflict between colonized people who are being exploited and the worldwide parasitic capitalism. It is not a religious question. The problem is that Arab workers have not yet achieved ideological independence from the Arab petty bourgeoisie and their reactionary religion.

While I don’t agree with terrorism being used as a primary form of struggle, such attacks shake off the bourgeoisie's sense of invincibility and encourage other oppressed peoples to dare to struggle against capitalist rule. The problem is that many workers have not yet achieved ideological independence from the petty bourgeoisie. Nevertheless, such attacks are reflections of the worldwide growing tension between oppressed nations and oppressor nations. Everything that weakens the Capitalist regimes is good!

In England and most of Europe, homes in Arab working class neighborhoods are raided daily and suspected Islamists are arrested by British armed police. The British government is right to be fearful of the colonized peoples fighting back inside Europe itself.

These struggles shake off imperialist’s sense of invincibility and encourage other oppressed peoples to dare to struggle against capitalism. We should recognize the right of the people to unite and overthrow imperialist power. They have the right to overturn the artificial borders and dictators’ fatcats that siphon the wealth of the Arab masses. I sympathize with the resistance coming from colonized people on every front on this planet. I recognize the struggle of oppressed workers in Europe and around the world as part of the downtrodden masses of the world to end the parasitic relationship which binds oppressor and oppressed nations. Especially today, fascism is on the rise in Europe, with groups like UKIP, BNP and the Tories.

The source of contradiction between oppressor and oppressed nations is the cause of this attack, and is not the starting point. The royal regime's lapdog May has repeated endlessly that "it is their way of life that is being attacked " and that they will "not cow into barbarism". Meanwhile English politicians call for more actions against colonized peoples such as closing borders of countries and creating anti-immigration and emergency laws. I think many North Americans and Europeans assume they have some idea of the basis of the contradictions because of the fantasies passed on to them historically about the source of their comparative wealth and good fortune. Nevertheless, their resources are stolen from others that have become increasingly difficult for them to afford in their malls and supermarkets. It’s somebody else’s oil, wrenched from the earth with bloody consequences, for which they now have to pay more.

Lets call it what it really is. This is class warfare - a conflict between people who live on less than €2 EURO a day and worldwide parasitic capitalism. It is not a religious question. This incident must be viewed in the context of over 25 years of Western aggression on the Middle East and Arab peoples around the world. How many innocent people were murdered by British soldiers in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya and killed by weapons supplied by English corporations to Assad’s enemies?

[Lady Scylla]

This attack is a rudimentary form of anti-capitalist resistance that lack adequate leadership and direction. The proletariat must in Western countries unite and overthrow imperialist white power and I sympathize with the resistance coming from colonized people on every front on this planet. We should recognize the struggle of oppressed immigrants in Europe and around the world as part of the downtrodden masses of the world to end the parasitic relationship which binds oppressor and oppressed nations. This is a conflict between colonized people who are being exploited and the worldwide parasitic capitalism. It is not a religious question. The problem is that Arab workers have not yet achieved ideological independence from the Arab petty bourgeoisie and their reactionary religion.

While I don’t agree with terrorism being used as a primary form of struggle, such attacks shake off the bourgeoisie's sense of invincibility and encourage other oppressed peoples to dare to struggle against capitalist rule. The problem is that many workers have not yet achieved ideological independence from the petty bourgeoisie. Nevertheless, such attacks are reflections of the worldwide growing tension between oppressed nations and oppressor nations. Everything that weakens the Capitalist regimes is good!

In England and most of Europe, homes in Arab working class neighborhoods are raided daily and suspected Islamists are arrested by British armed police. The British government is right to be fearful of the colonized peoples fighting back inside Europe itself.

These struggles shake off imperialist’s sense of invincibility and encourage other oppressed peoples to dare to struggle against capitalism. We should recognize the right of the people to unite and overthrow imperialist power. They have the right to overturn the artificial borders and dictators’ fatcats that siphon the wealth of the Arab masses. I sympathize with the resistance coming from colonized people on every front on this planet. I recognize the struggle of oppressed workers in Europe and around the world as part of the downtrodden masses of the world to end the parasitic relationship which binds oppressor and oppressed nations. Especially today, fascism is on the rise in Europe, with groups like UKIP, BNP and the Tories.

The source of contradiction between oppressor and oppressed nations is the cause of this attack, and is not the starting point. The royal regime's lapdog May has repeated endlessly that "it is their way of life that is being attacked " and that they will "not cow into barbarism". Meanwhile English politicians call for more actions against colonized peoples such as closing borders of countries and creating anti-immigration and emergency laws. I think many North Americans and Europeans assume they have some idea of the basis of the contradictions because of the fantasies passed on to them historically about the source of their comparative wealth and good fortune. Nevertheless, their resources are stolen from others that have become increasingly difficult for them to afford in their malls and supermarkets. It’s somebody else’s oil, wrenched from the earth with bloody consequences, for which they now have to pay more.

Lets call it what it really is. This is class warfare - a conflict between people who live on less than €2 EURO a day and worldwide parasitic capitalism. It is not a religious question. This incident must be viewed in the context of over 25 years of Western aggression on the Middle East and Arab peoples around the world. How many innocent people were murdered by British soldiers in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya and killed by weapons supplied by English corporations to Assad’s enemies?

Well, that tangent was as stale as Lenin's corpse. Moving on then.

[Republic of the Roman Nations]

This attack is a rudimentary form of anti-capitalist resistance that lack adequate leadership and direction. The proletariat must in Western countries unite and overthrow imperialist white power and I sympathize with the resistance coming from colonized people on every front on this planet. We should recognize the struggle of oppressed immigrants in Europe and around the world as part of the downtrodden masses of the world to end the parasitic relationship which binds oppressor and oppressed nations. This is a conflict between colonized people who are being exploited and the worldwide parasitic capitalism. It is not a religious question. The problem is that Arab workers have not yet achieved ideological independence from the Arab petty bourgeoisie and their reactionary religion.

While I don’t agree with terrorism being used as a primary form of struggle, such attacks shake off the bourgeoisie's sense of invincibility and encourage other oppressed peoples to dare to struggle against capitalist rule. The problem is that many workers have not yet achieved ideological independence from the petty bourgeoisie. Nevertheless, such attacks are reflections of the worldwide growing tension between oppressed nations and oppressor nations. Everything that weakens the Capitalist regimes is good!

In England and most of Europe, homes in Arab working class neighborhoods are raided daily and suspected Islamists are arrested by British armed police. The British government is right to be fearful of the colonized peoples fighting back inside Europe itself.

These struggles shake off imperialist’s sense of invincibility and encourage other oppressed peoples to dare to struggle against capitalism. We should recognize the right of the people to unite and overthrow imperialist power. They have the right to overturn the artificial borders and dictators’ fatcats that siphon the wealth of the Arab masses. I sympathize with the resistance coming from colonized people on every front on this planet. I recognize the struggle of oppressed workers in Europe and around the world as part of the downtrodden masses of the world to end the parasitic relationship which binds oppressor and oppressed nations. Especially today, fascism is on the rise in Europe, with groups like UKIP, BNP and the Tories.

The source of contradiction between oppressor and oppressed nations is the cause of this attack, and is not the starting point. The royal regime's lapdog May has repeated endlessly that "it is their way of life that is being attacked " and that they will "not cow into barbarism". Meanwhile English politicians call for more actions against colonized peoples such as closing borders of countries and creating anti-immigration and emergency laws. I think many North Americans and Europeans assume they have some idea of the basis of the contradictions because of the fantasies passed on to them historically about the source of their comparative wealth and good fortune. Nevertheless, their resources are stolen from others that have become increasingly difficult for them to afford in their malls and supermarkets. It’s somebody else’s oil, wrenched from the earth with bloody consequences, for which they now have to pay more.

Lets call it what it really is. This is class warfare - a conflict between people who live on less than €2 EURO a day and worldwide parasitic capitalism. It is not a religious question. This incident must be viewed in the context of over 25 years of Western aggression on the Middle East and Arab peoples around the world. How many innocent people were murdered by British soldiers in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya and killed by weapons supplied by English corporations to Assad’s enemies?

Well, that tangent was as stale as Lenin's corpse. Moving on then.

Yay, something we can agree on.

[Ifreann]

I'd be more inclined to ignore you for spending an hour trying to piss me off for some reason. I'll see.

Rather a step back from your earlier claim that terrorism is this family's business.

According to the reports in the news, Terroism is the families business. I stand by that. However, even terrorists deserve a fair trial.

According to reports in the news Salman Abedi's younger brother and father were arrested in Libya and his older brother was arrested in the UK. The younger brother was allegedly planning a terrorist attack in Tripoli. So of the six members of this family, one was a terrorist, one might have been planning to be a terrorist, two are under arrest for unspecified reasons, and two are presumably walking free.

Not exactly a modern retelling of The Godfather.

[Ethel mermania]

According to the reports in the news, Terroism is the families business. I stand by that. However, even terrorists deserve a fair trial.

According to reports in the news Salman Abedi's younger brother and father were arrested in Libya and his older brother was arrested in the UK. The younger brother was allegedly planning a terrorist attack in Tripoli. So of the six members of this family, one was a terrorist, one might have been planning to be a terrorist, two are under arrest for unspecified reasons, and two are presumably walking free.

Not exactly a modern retelling of The Godfather.

More than half the immediate family is under arrest, and you see nothing wrong with it.

[Tolerant Fellow]

This attack is a rudimentary form of anti-capitalist resistance that lack adequate leadership and direction. The proletariat must in Western countries unite and overthrow imperialist white power and I sympathize with the resistance coming from colonized people on every front on this planet. We should recognize the struggle of oppressed immigrants in Europe and around the world as part of the downtrodden masses of the world to end the parasitic relationship which binds oppressor and oppressed nations. This is a conflict between colonized people who are being exploited and the worldwide parasitic capitalism. It is not a religious question. The problem is that Arab workers have not yet achieved ideological independence from the Arab petty bourgeoisie and their reactionary religion.

While I don’t agree with terrorism being used as a primary form of struggle, such attacks shake off the bourgeoisie's sense of invincibility and encourage other oppressed peoples to dare to struggle against capitalist rule. The problem is that many workers have not yet achieved ideological independence from the petty bourgeoisie. Nevertheless, such attacks are reflections of the worldwide growing tension between oppressed nations and oppressor nations. Everything that weakens the Capitalist regimes is good!

In England and most of Europe, homes in Arab working class neighborhoods are raided daily and suspected Islamists are arrested by British armed police. The British government is right to be fearful of the colonized peoples fighting back inside Europe itself.

These struggles shake off imperialist’s sense of invincibility and encourage other oppressed peoples to dare to struggle against capitalism. We should recognize the right of the people to unite and overthrow imperialist power. They have the right to overturn the artificial borders and dictators’ fatcats that siphon the wealth of the Arab masses. I sympathize with the resistance coming from colonized people on every front on this planet. I recognize the struggle of oppressed workers in Europe and around the world as part of the downtrodden masses of the world to end the parasitic relationship which binds oppressor and oppressed nations. Especially today, fascism is on the rise in Europe, with groups like UKIP, BNP and the Tories.

The source of contradiction between oppressor and oppressed nations is the cause of this attack, and is not the starting point. The royal regime's lapdog May has repeated endlessly that "it is their way of life that is being attacked " and that they will "not cow into barbarism". Meanwhile English politicians call for more actions against colonized peoples such as closing borders of countries and creating anti-immigration and emergency laws. I think many North Americans and Europeans assume they have some idea of the basis of the contradictions because of the fantasies passed on to them historically about the source of their comparative wealth and good fortune. Nevertheless, their resources are stolen from others that have become increasingly difficult for them to afford in their malls and supermarkets. It’s somebody else’s oil, wrenched from the earth with bloody consequences, for which they now have to pay more.

Lets call it what it really is. This is class warfare - a conflict between people who live on less than €2 EURO a day and worldwide parasitic capitalism. It is not a religious question. This incident must be viewed in the context of over 25 years of Western aggression on the Middle East and Arab peoples around the world. How many innocent people were murdered by British soldiers in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya and killed by weapons supplied by English corporations to Assad’s enemies?

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