Trump MAGAThread III: Steak, Vodka, Casinos, and America

[The East Marches]

So you accept Dr. Ben Carson was the best candidate to be president? I am just going off what you were implying here.

That's the guy who honestly believed that the pyramids were granaries, right?

Yes that is correct. Genivaria seems to believe being a doctor or scientist gives your political opinion more weight. Thanks to examples like that, I disagree.

[Lady Scylla]

Why would I think it was a real clock?

Coz you seem to be giving it some importance.

Rather than a bunch of theoretical physicists giving their opinion on foreign policy with a shiny prop in the background.

And yet to downplay its importance and meaning is rather stupid.

[Genivaria]

That's the guy who honestly believed that the pyramids were granaries, right?

Yes that is correct. Genivaria seems to believe being a doctor or scientist gives your political opinion more weight. Thanks to examples like that, I disagree.

Simply going 'that's just their opinion' is not intellectually honest.

[Genivaria]

'opinion' yeah okay sure.
It's not like these kind of people know what they're talking about or anything because all opinions are equal right?

So you accept Dr. Ben Carson was the best candidate to be president? I am just going off what you were implying here.

What I am implying? No you seem to have misread.

[The East Marches]

Yes that is correct. Genivaria seems to believe being a doctor or scientist gives your political opinion more weight. Thanks to examples like that, I disagree.

Simply going 'that's just their opinion' is not intellectually honest.

Notice how I put "seems". You can correct the record so to speak :^)

[Genivaria]

Simply going 'that's just their opinion' is not intellectually honest.

Notice how I put "seems". You can correct the record so to speak :^)

Not sure what your point is.
What is that supposed to prove?

[Bakery Hill]

Coz you seem to be giving it some importance.

Rather than a bunch of theoretical physicists giving their opinion on foreign policy with a shiny prop in the background.

'opinion' yeah okay sure.
It's not like these kind of people know what they're talking about or anything because all opinions are equal right?

"The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, chaired by theoretical physicist and actual atheist Lawrence M. Krauss, announced today that President Donald Trump’s actions have moved the group’s “Doomsday Clock” to two and a half minutes ‘til midnight."

Oh shit my bad they've got a bunch atomic scientists an actual IRL atheist, and a big clock?

Look at all that foreign policy expertise.

[Alvecia]

'opinion' yeah okay sure.
It's not like these kind of people know what they're talking about or anything because all opinions are equal right?

"The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, chaired by theoretical physicist and actual atheist Lawrence M. Krauss, announced today that President Donald Trump’s actions have moved the group’s “Doomsday Clock” to two and a half minutes ‘til midnight."

Oh shit my bad they've got a bunch atomic scientists an actual IRL atheist, and a big clock?

Look at all that foreign policy expertise.

I thought it was odd that they called him an "actual" atheist.
I know the blog is an atheist one, but, like, what are they comparing him to? A fake atheist?

[Genivaria]

"The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, chaired by theoretical physicist and actual atheist Lawrence M. Krauss, announced today that President Donald Trump’s actions have moved the group’s “Doomsday Clock” to two and a half minutes ‘til midnight."

Oh shit my bad they've got a bunch atomic scientists an actual IRL atheist, and a big clock?

Look at all that foreign policy expertise.

I thought it was odd that they called him an "actual" atheist.
I know the blog is an atheist one, but, like, what are they comparing him to? A fake atheist?

Okay that in fairness was silly.

[The East Marches]

Notice how I put "seems". You can correct the record so to speak :^)

Not sure what your point is.
What is that supposed to prove?

You were saying that because they were scientists we should take their opinion on foreign policy and other things seriously. I disagreed and provided a counter-example of an exceptionally talented man with bad opinions. Playing stupid won't help here.

[Sungai Pusat]

News is talking about the US's plan to pay for the wall indirectly, basically, so.... yeah.

So I mean to most of the voters, it probably doesn't matter, but that's Mexican companies paying for it.

Like, not Mexico's government, at least not directly (I guess it robs them of business...?), but again probably most people don't care about that minutiae being unachieved, so... yeah. :/

[Ifreann]

"The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, chaired by theoretical physicist and actual atheist Lawrence M. Krauss, announced today that President Donald Trump’s actions have moved the group’s “Doomsday Clock” to two and a half minutes ‘til midnight."

Oh shit my bad they've got a bunch atomic scientists an actual IRL atheist, and a big clock?

Look at all that foreign policy expertise.

I thought it was odd that they called him an "actual" atheist.
I know the blog is an atheist one, but, like, what are they comparing him to? A fake atheist?

It's a pun on "theoretical physicist".

[Chestaan]

News is talking about the US's plan to pay for the wall indirectly, basically, so.... yeah.

So I mean to most of the voters, it probably doesn't matter, but that's Mexican companies paying for it.

Like, not Mexico's government, at least not directly (I guess it robs them of business...?), but again probably most people don't care about that minutiae being unachieved, so... yeah. :/

Actually it will also be paid by American people. When tariffs are increased, it causes companies to increase their prices in order to compensate for the loss in revenue.

[Bakery Hill]

Coz you seem to be giving it some importance.

Rather than a bunch of theoretical physicists giving their opinion on foreign policy with a shiny prop in the background.

And yet to downplay its importance and meaning is rather stupid.

In itself it isn't very important, it means very little. It reflects the opinions of people untrained in foreign policy. There only connection to nuclear war is that they designed and built the nukes. Really they're the people we should be angry at, not the democratically elected President.

[Alvecia]

I thought it was odd that they called him an "actual" atheist.
I know the blog is an atheist one, but, like, what are they comparing him to? A fake atheist?

It's a pun on "theoretical physicist".

Ah, that makes sense. Went right over my head :/

[Genivaria]

Not sure what your point is.
What is that supposed to prove?

You were saying that because they were scientists we should take their opinion on foreign policy and other things seriously. I disagreed and provided a counter-example of an exceptionally talented man with bad opinions. Playing stupid won't help here.

Again, arrogantly dismissing claims as opinions doesn't contribute anything and is plain dishonest.
Neither does your baity condescension.

[Patridam]

That's the guy who honestly believed that the pyramids were granaries, right?

Yes that is correct. Genivaria seems to believe being a doctor or scientist gives your political opinion more weight. Thanks to examples like that, I disagree.

Do engineers get grouped into Gern's elite class of opinion mattering more? Because we tend to be conservative, overwhelmingly

[The East Marches]

You were saying that because they were scientists we should take their opinion on foreign policy and other things seriously. I disagreed and provided a counter-example of an exceptionally talented man with bad opinions. Playing stupid won't help here.

Again, arrogantly dismissing claims as opinions doesn't contribute anything and is plain dishonest.
Neither does your baity condescension.

It wasn't dishonest and neither was my comment bait. You made an point and I provided a counter point. Do you have evidence these men are particularly well learned in regards to politics? Did they perhaps work for the state department or have a job at Stratfor?

[Lady Scylla]

And yet to downplay its importance and meaning is rather stupid.

In itself it isn't very important, it means very little. It reflects the opinions of people untrained in foreign policy. There only connection to nuclear war is that they designed and built the nukes. Really they're the people we should be angry at, not the democratically elected President.

I'm not angry at them, I would like to direct you to Oppenheimer, who would love to have a word with you. The doomsday clock is meant to highlight our probability of approaching an apocalypse. They're not doing the clock on foreign policy insomuch as looking at current events around the globe, and determining their impact the climate, the potential for bombs and nuclear war. They're actually quite proficient in this, being the designers around nuclear bombs, because they not only know what these weapons do, but are who designs most of our policy on the psychological, sociological, and economic impacts, reactions, and stability of the globe in and around such devices.

[Bakery Hill]

You were saying that because they were scientists we should take their opinion on foreign policy and other things seriously. I disagreed and provided a counter-example of an exceptionally talented man with bad opinions. Playing stupid won't help here.

Again, arrogantly dismissing claims as opinions doesn't contribute anything and is plain dishonest.
Neither does your baity condescension.

Anarchists talk of the authority of the bootmaker. I will bow to the theoretical physicists authority on how atoms and shit work, but not foreign policy. Their expertise in one field does not validate all opinions in other fields.

Coincidentally I've got this great youtube clip where a doctor of naturopathy tells me that climate change is a Zionist conspriacy. Want me to link it to you?

[The East Marches]

In itself it isn't very important, it means very little. It reflects the opinions of people untrained in foreign policy. There only connection to nuclear war is that they designed and built the nukes. Really they're the people we should be angry at, not the democratically elected President.

I'm not angry at them, I would like to direct you to Oppenheimer, who would love to have a word with you. The doomsday clock is meant to highlight our probability of approaching an apocalypse. They're not doing the clock on foreign policy insomuch as looking at current events around the globe, and determining their impact the climate, the potential for bombs and nuclear war. They're actually quite proficient in this, being the designers around nuclear bombs, because they not only know what these weapons do, but are who designs most of our policy on the psychological, sociological, and economic impacts, reactions, and stability of the globe in and around such devices.

That part is wrong. Please see our think tanks for that sector. 0/10

[The East Marches]

Yes that is correct. Genivaria seems to believe being a doctor or scientist gives your political opinion more weight. Thanks to examples like that, I disagree.

Do engineers get grouped into Gern's elite class of opinion mattering more? Because we tend to be conservative, overwhelmingly

Ask Gern, I'm not sure if they count a bachelor's or master's as high enough tbh

[Sungai Pusat]

News is talking about the US's plan to pay for the wall indirectly, basically, so.... yeah.

So I mean to most of the voters, it probably doesn't matter, but that's Mexican companies paying for it.

Like, not Mexico's government, at least not directly (I guess it robs them of business...?), but again probably most people don't care about that minutiae being unachieved, so... yeah. :/

Actually it will also be paid by American people. When tariffs are increased, it causes companies to increase their prices in order to compensate for the loss in revenue.

Even if not, it's kind of a workaround of his promise (Though really, it's kinda silly regardless for the Mexican government to concede, regardless of its history, since... well, obviously they don't see a great need for a wall on that border to begin with)

[Lady Scylla]

It's a pun on "theoretical physicist".

Ah, that makes sense. Went right over my head :/

Nerd humour. It's sort of like looking for a quantum physicist.

If you know about quantum mechanics, you'll understand why that's funny. >.>

[Washington Resistance Army]

In itself it isn't very important, it means very little. It reflects the opinions of people untrained in foreign policy. There only connection to nuclear war is that they designed and built the nukes. Really they're the people we should be angry at, not the democratically elected President.

I'm not angry at them, I would like to direct you to Oppenheimer, who would love to have a word with you. The doomsday clock is meant to highlight our probability of approaching an apocalypse. They're not doing the clock on foreign policy insomuch as looking at current events around the globe, and determining their impact the climate, the potential for bombs and nuclear war. They're actually quite proficient in this, being the designers around nuclear bombs, because they not only know what these weapons do, but are who designs most of our policy on the psychological, sociological, and economic impacts, reactions, and stability of the globe in and around such devices.

They don't seem very good at it, given this election moved the clock up but the fucking Cuban Missile Crisis didn't.