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[United Marxist Nations]

We will continue on with the reasonable stats, with his military spending being somewhere around 15-20% of his GDP.

Meaning that he's going full "End of the Soviet Union" and could go bankrupt at any time?

End of the Soviet Union was about 25%.

[The V O I D]

I like how people continue assuming something's wrong when there isn't anything wrong. lol.

But thanks anyways, UMN.

[Grand Britannia]

Meaning that he's going full "End of the Soviet Union" and could go bankrupt at any time?

End of the Soviet Union was about 25%.

The Soviet Union also had a stagnant/crippled economy and the government took, what, around 70 or 80% of the GDP for total expenses?

Outside of being at total war (and even then that level of spending probably means youre desperate), I just dont see that being sustainable.

[Aelex]

I like how people continue assuming something's wrong when there isn't anything wrong. lol.

But thanks anyways, UMN.

Spending one fifth of your GDP on defense when your taxation only get you one fourth of it is actually quite wrong for your country.

[United Marxist Nations]

I like how people continue assuming something's wrong when there isn't anything wrong. lol.

But thanks anyways, UMN.

I would say something is wrong. Like I said, 15-20% of your GDP on just the military is staggering. For reference, Stalin spent about 17% of it on the military.

[The V O I D]

I like how people continue assuming something's wrong when there isn't anything wrong. lol.

But thanks anyways, UMN.

I would say something is wrong. Like I said, 15-20% of your GDP on just the military is staggering. For reference, Stalin spent about 17% of it on the military.

I'm not doing this right now. Whatever.


I'll just continue existing the way I want, kthx.

[United Marxist Nations]

I would say something is wrong. Like I said, 15-20% of your GDP on just the military is staggering. For reference, Stalin spent about 17% of it on the military.

I'm not doing this right now. Whatever.


I'll just continue existing the way I want, kthx.

I'm OP, if you want to exist as you do, you're spending 15-20% of your GDP on your defense and having significant economic difficulties because of it.

[Aelex]

I'm not doing this right now. Whatever.


I'll just continue existing the way I want, kthx.

Yeah. No. If the O.P is telling you that this level of spending is going to fuck up your country you can't just "continue existing the way you want". Either you reduce it or you face the threat of people using that to fuck you completely through economic war as you're basically ready to crumble at anytime.

[Grand Britannia]

I like how people continue assuming something's wrong when there isn't anything wrong. lol.

But thanks anyways, UMN.

Financially speaking this level of spending would have you in ruin. The current US taxing scheme pulls around 34% of GDP between all levels (not all the time, anyways, deficit spending and all), you're implying defense is more than 2/3rd of that.

Moreover, high taxation is a determent to growth, the more you take out of people's wallets, the less they spend, the less you allow the private sector to grow (vital assuming you are post induistrial/service based).

[The V O I D]

I'm not doing this right now. Whatever.


I'll just continue existing the way I want, kthx.

I'm OP, if you want to exist as you do, you're spending 15-20% of your GDP on your defense and having significant economic difficulties because of it.

Nah, I'm good as I am, thanks.

Unless we're going to cut everyone else down, too. I'm not going to just make myself somewhat weaker in one way or another just because other people can't handle it.

If I get cut down, France gives up Africa, and Britannia its colonies, Joch goes to only middle east at largest, and we do a bunch of power cuts. I am not going to be cut down if they are allowed that much territory and that much power while I can't when I don't even have anywhere near the same amount of territory.

[United Marxist Nations]

I'm OP, if you want to exist as you do, you're spending 15-20% of your GDP on your defense and having significant economic difficulties because of it.

Nah, I'm good as I am, thanks.

Unless we're going to cut everyone else down, too. I'm not going to just make myself somewhat weaker in one way or another just because other people can't handle it.

If I get cut down, France gives up Africa, and Britannia its colonies, Joch goes to only middle east at largest, and we do a bunch of power cuts. I am not going to be cut down if they are allowed that much territory and that much power while I can't when I don't even have anywhere near the same amount of territory.

Then leave. They aren't being wholly unreasonable. You are.

[Aelex]

Then leave. They aren't being wholly unreasonable. You are.

Well, everything has been said, I think.

[The V O I D]

Nah, I'm good as I am, thanks.

Unless we're going to cut everyone else down, too. I'm not going to just make myself somewhat weaker in one way or another just because other people can't handle it.

If I get cut down, France gives up Africa, and Britannia its colonies, Joch goes to only middle east at largest, and we do a bunch of power cuts. I am not going to be cut down if they are allowed that much territory and that much power while I can't when I don't even have anywhere near the same amount of territory.

Then leave. They aren't being wholly unreasonable. You are.

Pff, yeah, sure. And the sky is purple.

I am not changing my nation. I refuse to change my nation. You said we'd be making nations based on our ideal forms of government and such. You even put in your own OP's rules that people shouldn't conflict other people's lore and histories.

This version of America is my ideal form of government and its lore belongs entirely to me, myself, I and my brain. I will only cut my power down if everyone else does, too. Otherwise, I'm good as I am.

[United Marxist Nations]

Then leave. They aren't being wholly unreasonable. You are.

Pff, yeah, sure. And the sky is purple.

I am not changing my nation. I refuse to change my nation. You said we'd be making nations based on our ideal forms of government and such. You even put in your own OP's rules that people shouldn't conflict other people's lore and histories.

This version of America is my ideal form of government and its lore belongs entirely to me, myself, I and my brain. I will only cut my power down if everyone else does, too. Otherwise, I'm good as I am.

We can make our ideal countries within reason. Please point out where they are going overboard on the level of ignoring basic economics.

[Grand Britannia]

I changed Iran/Afghanistan's colours because grey looked ugly af. The internal borders sill trigger me, because one side isn't visible. Just pretend Afghanistan is one big province.

I'm OP, if you want to exist as you do, you're spending 15-20% of your GDP on your defense and having significant economic difficulties because of it.

Nah, I'm good as I am, thanks.

Unless we're going to cut everyone else down, too. I'm not going to just make myself somewhat weaker in one way or another just because other people can't handle it.

If I get cut down, France gives up Africa, and Britannia its colonies, Joch goes to only middle east at largest, and we do a bunch of power cuts. I am not going to be cut down if they are allowed that much territory and that much power while I can't when I don't even have anywhere near the same amount of territory.

>be america
>nearly 10 million kilometers of land
>vast resources
>300 million + population
>wealthy
>complain about mostly empty land canada and 3rd world colonies of other powers

wew lad

[Aelex]

Pff, yeah, sure. And the sky is purple.

I am not changing my nation. I refuse to change my nation. You said we'd be making nations based on our ideal forms of government and such. You even put in your own OP's rules that people shouldn't conflict other people's lore and histories.

This version of America is my ideal form of government and its lore belongs entirely to me, myself, I and my brain. I will only cut my power down if everyone else does, too. Otherwise, I'm good as I am.

We aren't asking you to change your lore, just not to down-right cheat. If you accepted to have a realistic military like everyone else, there would have been no problem since the start.
If you don't want to be respectuous and cooperative like everyone else is, then just leave.

[The V O I D]

Pff, yeah, sure. And the sky is purple.

I am not changing my nation. I refuse to change my nation. You said we'd be making nations based on our ideal forms of government and such. You even put in your own OP's rules that people shouldn't conflict other people's lore and histories.

This version of America is my ideal form of government and its lore belongs entirely to me, myself, I and my brain. I will only cut my power down if everyone else does, too. Otherwise, I'm good as I am.

We can make our ideal countries within reason. Please point out where they are going overboard on the level of ignoring basic economics.

I am within perfect reasoning. As for them, do I really have to point it out? Somehow, they have the largest militaries on earth, on top of the largest territories on earth, on top of being perfectly fan-fucking-tastic? Yet I, for only wanting my government to be perfect over basically the IRL US territories, plus Puerto Rico and the Philippines, and only wanting my military to be of similar strength to them... am the unreasonable, economically unstable one?

That is some pretty shit-tier logic there.

[Grand Britannia]

We can make our ideal countries within reason. Please point out where they are going overboard on the level of ignoring basic economics.

I am within perfect reasoning. As for them, do I really have to point it out? Somehow, they have the largest militaries on earth, on top of the largest territories on earth, on top of being perfectly fan-fucking-tastic? Yet I, for only wanting my government to be perfect over basically the IRL US territories, plus Puerto Rico and the Philippines, and only wanting my military to be of similar strength to them... am the unreasonable, economically unstable one?

That is some pretty shit-tier logic there.

>britannia spends 6.82% of GDP on the military
>"what bullshit my 20% is way more realistic"

[United Marxist Nations]

We can make our ideal countries within reason. Please point out where they are going overboard on the level of ignoring basic economics.

I am within perfect reasoning. As for them, do I really have to point it out? Somehow, they have the largest militaries on earth, on top of the largest territories on earth, on top of being perfectly fan-fucking-tastic? Yet I, for only wanting my government to be perfect over basically the IRL US territories, plus Puerto Rico and the Philippines, and only wanting my military to be of similar strength to them... am the unreasonable, economically unstable one?

That is some pretty shit-tier logic there.

They have shitty third world colonies and a rural tundra. You are trying to ignore the consequences of 15-20% of your GDP being in the military. You are not trying to be the same as us, you are trying to be unreasonably strong.

[The V O I D]

I am within perfect reasoning. As for them, do I really have to point it out? Somehow, they have the largest militaries on earth, on top of the largest territories on earth, on top of being perfectly fan-fucking-tastic? Yet I, for only wanting my government to be perfect over basically the IRL US territories, plus Puerto Rico and the Philippines, and only wanting my military to be of similar strength to them... am the unreasonable, economically unstable one?

That is some pretty shit-tier logic there.

>britannia spends 6.82% of GDP on the military
>"what bullshit my 20% is way more realistic"

>somehow holds all that territory and claims to be able to fight wars
>somehow governs all that territory 100% effectively with no secessionists or anything at all, ever

[The V O I D]

I am within perfect reasoning. As for them, do I really have to point it out? Somehow, they have the largest militaries on earth, on top of the largest territories on earth, on top of being perfectly fan-fucking-tastic? Yet I, for only wanting my government to be perfect over basically the IRL US territories, plus Puerto Rico and the Philippines, and only wanting my military to be of similar strength to them... am the unreasonable, economically unstable one?

That is some pretty shit-tier logic there.

They have shitty third world colonies and a rural tundra. You are trying to ignore the consequences of 15-20% of your GDP being in the military. You are not trying to be the same as us, you are trying to be unreasonably strong.

I'm just gonna continue my existence, as I said.

[Democratic East-Asia]

Troubling as usual. Commie China still exists.

[Aelex]

>britannia spends 6.82% of GDP on the military
>"what bullshit my 20% is way more realistic"

Around 8% there and it's only by having barely enough budget for the navy to keep the ships floating that I manage to pull it off.

[United Marxist Nations]

>britannia spends 6.82% of GDP on the military
>"what bullshit my 20% is way more realistic"

>somehow holds all that territory and claims to be able to fight wars
>somehow governs all that territory 100% effectively with no secessionists or anything at all, ever

How about I rule that they have to have secessionists and you have to have reasonable consequences for your economy?

[Socialist Nordia]

Meanwhile, I'm still regretting how badly I underpowered my population and military in an effort to try to make it comparable to IRL.