California to better regulate pornography

[Esternial]

Would those be bright green condoms, then?

An interesting notion. I've never asked.

The public demands answers!

[Philjia]

Most porn doesn't encourage violence against women. Cinematic porn that glorifies sexual assault is (rightly) straight up banned in the UK.

there is no evidence to suggest that watching videos of legal adults having consensual sex encourages actual violence. throwing people in jail because you don't like their fetishes is not "right".

Porn depicting consensual BDSM/rough sex is not illegal. (Although I'm sure the sodding Tories will be on it soon). I'm talking about depictions that appear to represent actual rape being something that people can enjoy.

[New Axiom]

Why? It makes a shitton of money. Pornhub even does charity sometimes.

There are things more important in the world than money.

Like what?

In the developed world, you need money to buy food and water, which you need to live. You also need to buy a house, pay for yours and your child's education, pay for your farm equipment, and pay for life saving medical treatments.

What's more important than money?

Not happiness. I can't go to the grocery store and by bread with happiness.

[Galloism]

Actually, many countries have this regulation already.

They just shoot the porn with the condom, then remove it in digital post-production. It's actually kind of neat.

But this version seems to be better, because everybody can sue the pornographers.

Unless you're promoting nuisance lawsuits, I don't see what's so big about that.

And if you are promoting nuisance lawsuits, shame on you.

[Philjia]

If this wasn't a PG-13 site I would link you to my primary source of soppy lesbian romance manga.

i hope your "sloppy lesbian romance manga" doesn't involve schoolgirls or anything of even remotely questionable age

Nobody that's under 18. Probably. Certainly nobody that does not behave like real life 18 year olds I know.

[Freefall11111]

there is no evidence to suggest that watching videos of legal adults having consensual sex encourages actual violence. throwing people in jail because you don't like their fetishes is not "right".

Porn depicting consensual BDSM/rough sex is not illegal. (Although I'm sure the sodding Tories will be on it soon). I'm talking about depictions that appear to represent actual rape being something that people can enjoy.

Actually, it's already partially illegal (but unenforceable, as usual). Spanking was banned two years back along with a bunch of other stuff.

[Galloism]

An interesting notion. I've never asked.

The public demands answers!

Seems distracting.

Imagine having sex while wearing a bright green condom.

[The first Galactic Republic]

The money argument might be getting off topic but if you make any money from porn from any source, it counts as you making money from it.

The ones who will make money off of it on paper won't be in the state.

Again I don't think they'll have police make sure every porn video used a condom. They'll probably use other methods to enforce the law, like fines. Also me pointing that out doesn't mean I think it would be impossible to circumvent the law.

I'm not just saying it would not be impossible to circumvent the law. I'm saying it would be absurdly easy. I'm saying this initiative is a complete waste of time, money, and resources. This is an even more pathetic attempt than trying to ban alcohol or marijuana. It's literally unenforceable to any significant degree. The opportunity cost on this is insane.

I agree partially. I still think it would make some difference though. Fines could hit the big producers. Sure they can't possibly enforce it on amateurs, but there might be a significant change with the professional producers.

Or they might just leave.

[Philjia]

Porn depicting consensual BDSM/rough sex is not illegal. (Although I'm sure the sodding Tories will be on it soon). I'm talking about depictions that appear to represent actual rape being something that people can enjoy.

Actually, it's already partially illegal (but unenforceable, as usual). Spanking was banned two years back along with a bunch of other stuff.

Ah yes, I remember. Bloody conservatives.

[Shofercia]

Actually, many countries have this regulation already.

They just shoot the porn with the condom, then remove it in digital post-production. It's actually kind of neat.

Would those be bright green condoms, then?

Nope. Green makes everything invisible, including the condom and the part that's wearing it. See here for a video not involving nudity, but involving green: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8LT26_pkjE

[Great Kauthar]

porn should be banned all together, full stop.

I fully agree.
But since I'm a very pragmatic person I think that a very little step in the right direction is still better than nothing.

porn should be banned all together, full stop.

...why?

porn should be banned all together, full stop.

Nah.

porn should be banned all together, full stop.

No.

Pornography is being used by the international elites to destroy the family and end the white race. It makes white men sexually weak and when coupled with interracial is trying to enforce a sense of inferiority on white males and making white women think that blacks are superior. Along with that, it increases infidelity and is morally wrong. To preserve the white race and traditional values it must be banned,

[The first Galactic Republic]

Why? It makes a shitton of money. Pornhub even does charity sometimes.

There are things more important in the world than money.

Money exists to buy things, and many people want it to get laid.

Because porn helps with that deep urge, it might be even more important than money itself. Sex is almost as important to people as food and water, so porn is therefore right up there with water fountains and restaurants. Our society would just be worse without these things.

[Freefall11111]

The ones who will make money off of it on paper won't be in the state.


I'm not just saying it would not be impossible to circumvent the law. I'm saying it would be absurdly easy. I'm saying this initiative is a complete waste of time, money, and resources. This is an even more pathetic attempt than trying to ban alcohol or marijuana. It's literally unenforceable to any significant degree. The opportunity cost on this is insane.

I agree partially. I still think it would make some difference though. Fines could hit the big producers. Sure they can't possibly enforce it on amateurs, but there might be a significant change with the professional producers.

Or they might just leave.

They'll leave and the change will be very marginal. This is a waste of time.

[WaRtArIa]

I fully agree.
But since I'm a very pragmatic person I think that a very little step in the right direction is still better than nothing.

...why?

Nah.

No.

Pornography is being used by the international elites to destroy the family and end the white race. It makes white men sexually weak and when coupled with interracial is trying to enforce a sense of inferiority on white males and making white women think that blacks are superior. Along with that, it increases infidelity and is morally wrong. To preserve the white race and traditional values it must be banned,

*triggered*

The white race? THE WHITE RACE?! Just for the white race?!

[Freefall11111]

I fully agree.
But since I'm a very pragmatic person I think that a very little step in the right direction is still better than nothing.

...why?

Nah.

No.

Pornography is being used by the international elites to destroy the family and end the white race. It makes white men sexually weak and when coupled with interracial is trying to enforce a sense of inferiority on white males and making white women think that blacks are superior. Along with that, it increases infidelity and is morally wrong. To preserve the white race and traditional values it must be banned,

Booooooring.

[New Axiom]

I fully agree.
But since I'm a very pragmatic person I think that a very little step in the right direction is still better than nothing.

...why?

Nah.

No.

Pornography is being used by the international elites to destroy the family and end the white race. It makes white men sexually weak and when coupled with interracial is trying to enforce a sense of inferiority on white males and making white women think that blacks are superior. Along with that, it increases infidelity and is morally wrong. To preserve the white race and traditional values it must be banned,

Prove the bolded part.

I'm a white male, I watch porn and I don't feel inferiorated. What the hells the matter with you?

[Souseiseki]

there is no evidence to suggest that watching videos of legal adults having consensual sex encourages actual violence. throwing people in jail because you don't like their fetishes is not "right".

Porn depicting consensual BDSM/rough sex is not illegal. (Although I'm sure the sodding Tories will be on it soon). I'm talking about depictions that appear to represent actual rape being something that people can enjoy.

but those depictions themselves nothing more than consensual BDSM, unless we've run into a major miscommunication.

i hope your "sloppy lesbian romance manga" doesn't involve schoolgirls or anything of even remotely questionable age

Nobody that's under 18. Probably. Certainly nobody that does not behave like real life 18 year olds I know.

just making sure! wouldn't want to end up in a situation where you have to trust a group of 12 random people to make the right call.

[Minzerland II]

It's a bad idea.

[United Marxist Nations]

I fully agree.
But since I'm a very pragmatic person I think that a very little step in the right direction is still better than nothing.

...why?

Nah.

No.

Pornography is being used by the international elites to destroy the family and end the white race. It makes white men sexually weak and when coupled with interracial is trying to enforce a sense of inferiority on white males and making white women think that blacks are superior. Along with that, it increases infidelity and is morally wrong. To preserve the white race and traditional values it must be banned,

>Racism
>traditional values
Pick one and only one

Porn should be banned, and I agree that interracial pornography is often racially fetishistic in nature though, but that is mostly the blame on the hypocrisy of the elite classes on racial issues. But it shouldn't be banned to preserve the "white family", but to preserve the family in-general.

[New Axiom]

There are things more important in the world than money.

Money exists to buy things, and many people want it to get laid.

Because porn helps with that deep urge, it might be even more important than money itself. Sex is almost as important to people as food and water, so porn is therefore right up there with water fountains and restaurants. Our society would just be worse without these things.

Sex is more important; we need sex to reproduce.

[Pope Joan]

Okay, I'll try to be extremely neutral regarding the sources, so I'll use a very neutral and also extremely detailed site:
https://ballotpedia.org/California_Prop ... ilms_(2016)



More details in the link

Personally I think that isn't really important, not even closer, but still it's interesting: it's just a very little step, but still this initiative, if passed, will improve public health and public awareness about the use of condoms (though such awareness will be gained through watching pornography, that encourges violence against women ) and, perhaps more important, will give practically to all people the chance to sue the pornographers not properly using the minimum required protections.
Since the vote will be on 8 November, that is also Election Day, it's very likely that there will be a lot of people voting it.

What do you think, NSGs?

Bad idea. The industry will simply move from Hollywood to Vegas. Such laws only work if they're implemented in all states, not just one state.

Why not just imitate other industries and outsource the product to some overseas base? I think the Philippines government would love to embarrass us, for instance.

[Esternial]

I fully agree.
But since I'm a very pragmatic person I think that a very little step in the right direction is still better than nothing.

Pornography is being used by the international elites to destroy the family and end the white race. It makes white men sexually weak and when coupled with interracial is trying to enforce a sense of inferiority on white males and making white women think that blacks are superior. Along with that, it increases infidelity and is morally wrong. To preserve the white race and traditional values it must be banned,

Oof. Tough luck :/

Find a comrade-in-arms, turns out he's racist.

[United Marxist Nations]

There are things more important in the world than money.

Money exists to buy things, and many people want it to get laid.

Because porn helps with that deep urge, it might be even more important than money itself. Sex is almost as important to people as food and water, so porn is therefore right up there with water fountains and restaurants. Our society would just be worse without these things.

Society did fine without them for thousands of years. The normalization of casual sex and other things has only made things worse, and it should be put to a stop.

[New Axiom]

Pornography is being used by the international elites to destroy the family and end the white race. It makes white men sexually weak and when coupled with interracial is trying to enforce a sense of inferiority on white males and making white women think that blacks are superior. Along with that, it increases infidelity and is morally wrong. To preserve the white race and traditional values it must be banned,

>Racism
>traditional values
Pick one and only one

Porn should be banned, and I agree that interracial pornography is often racially fetishistic in nature though, but that is mostly the blame on the hypocrisy of the elite classes on racial issues. But it shouldn't be banned to preserve the "white family", but to preserve the family in-general.

If porn makes you think any less of your family YOU should be banned from watching porn. No one else.

[Community Values]

I fully agree.
But since I'm a very pragmatic person I think that a very little step in the right direction is still better than nothing.

...why?

Nah.

No.

Pornography is being used by the international elites to destroy the family and end the white race. It makes white men sexually weak and when coupled with interracial is trying to enforce a sense of inferiority on white males and making white women think that blacks are superior. Along with that, it increases infidelity and is morally wrong. To preserve the white race and traditional values it must be banned,

I guess you're entitled to your moral opinion, but I'd love to see what sauces you are smoking when you say that porn is being used by international elites. Could you hook me up with some of those sources?