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The UK Referendum on Membership of the European Union

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Should the UK remain a member of the EU or leave the EU

Remain a member of the EU (UK citizen)
279
18%
Leave the EU (UK citizen)
207
13%
Remain a member of the EU (citizen of other EU member)
146
9%
Leave the EU (citizen of other EU member)
99
6%
Remain a member of the EU (non-EU citizen)
432
27%
Leave the EU (non-EU citizen)
414
26%
 
Total votes : 1577

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Shofercia
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Postby Shofercia » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:01 pm

Valaran wrote:
Olerand wrote:
Don't give up, you can still prove your treacherous nature. I believe in Britain yet. :p


Its been called.

I'll be making plans to bugger off to the US.


I can recruit for some companies in California. What industry?


Souseiseki wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
You're STILL blaming people for hating the current dynamic of elitist snobs shitting on their culture constantly and calling them racists while importing foreigners.
Why not blame the elitists?

Ofcourse they don't care about the economy. Why would they? They've got nothing to lose.

"Oh no, the economy shrank 50%!"
"So what. I don't have any money. You sure got poorer though."

If you want to know what sealed the deal for brexit, it was the left alienating most of its own support.


I DO NOT GIVE A SINGLE FUCKING SHIT ABOUT YOUR RANTS ABOUT THE MUSLIMS AND THE ELTIES

YOU HAVE JUST STARTED A GLOBAL RECESSION AND DESTROYED THE EU AND THE UK

WE MIGHT LEGITIMATELY HAVE ANOTHER LOW INTENSITY CIVIL WAR

SPAIN, ARGENTINA AND RUSSIA ARE DROOLING

LET ME REPEAT: I DO NOT GIVE A SINGLE SHIT

does this address your concerns?


Let the Annexation of DonBass, erm, Scotland, commence!

Damn dude, your fear mongering is just...


New haven america wrote:Can't wait to see how Scotland reacts to this.


We Wantz Independenz Nao!


greed and death wrote:
Freefall11111 wrote:You and me both. Such a shame, I've only been in my new house for a year.

property values in the UK just fell 50% I hope you are renting.


Oh you


Freefall11111 wrote:Time to figure out which US state is the most pleasant to live in.


California!


Russkiymir wrote:Yay. Yay. Yay.


The neoliberal sjw anti-Putin elitist a are crying.!?!!!? Over an expression of sovereignty?!!?


We've got them for Kosovo!


We've got them for Kosovo!!!!


We've got them for Kosovo!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :clap:


This just in: Russia was not involved in the Referendum. The EU elites decided to ignore the voters and got fucked. This isn't a victory for Russia. This isn't a defeat for Russia. Not everything revolves around Russia.
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Confederation of the Equator
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Postby Confederation of the Equator » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:02 pm

The Emerald Dragon wrote:
New Tuva SSR wrote:Well, the UK is fucked. Scotland and Northern Ireland are either going to go independent or form some fucking Gaelic Union with Ireland, Gibraltar is going to leave for Spain, and the Falklands will likely be taken by the Argentinians.


4.) Haha. The Argentine military isn't the most advanced, it's basically the North Korean military Just marginally better. :p

Ye bloody argies are just one big joke.
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The Emerald Dragon
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Postby The Emerald Dragon » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:02 pm

Liriena wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
I thought you were American?

Nope. Argentinian.

And before anybody asks, I believe the Falklands belong to their inhabitants, and they can do with them as they wish.


I love you. :hug:

Just tell that crazy bitch of a president, you have/had? To respect that.

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Olerand
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Postby Olerand » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:02 pm

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Olerand wrote:Oh! Is that when the Orange Order or whatever comes out?

Yup, one of the days, but usually the most volatile. Its part of the "marching season"

Oh, I don't believe I'll be able to make it to that fight in this summer, I intend to visit this Yorkshire at least, but I'm keeping my eyes on that. That's going down on my list.
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The Liberated Territories
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:02 pm

JDPON wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:This thread moves too fast.


liberals are literally losing their shit right now


True liberals are celebrating.
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Arkiasis
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Postby Arkiasis » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:02 pm

http://i.imgur.com/J4NeQUv.png

Asia is shitting its pants.
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Valystria
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Postby Valystria » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:02 pm

Liriena wrote:
Valystria wrote:Love of one's own nation and culture isn't necessarily xenophobia.

No, but coupled with a "screw everybody else, they are all inferior" attitude, it certainly is.

Valystria wrote:It's this name-calling attitude that continues nudging the common folk towards far-right.

I have a different perspective on that. Namely, that the far-right, lacking the scruples of the right and centre-right, has no qualms with taking people's legitimate concerns and fueling them with a simplistic paranoid narrative, one that provides voters with emotionally compelling and simple answers and solutions.

A couple of years back, my nation had massive countrywide protests against a potential attempt by our incumbent president to reform the constitution and run for a third term. The thing is... the incumbent president never even implied that she would pursue such a thing, and neither did her coalition. It was all the product of a fear-mongering campaign led by right-wing politicians and mass media.

The local left had nothing to do with it. They did not start it all by suggesting that the president was so good, and the far-right was so evil, that she should stay for a third term. It was all about the right-wing and its corporate allies taking people's legitimate concerns (many felt that the president was an "authoritarian" populist) and fueling them with a simplistic paranoid narrative.

I feel that the rise of the far-right in Europe is somewhat similar: Immigration has caused problems, and people do have legitimate concerns, but it is not the left's response that drove people to the far-right's arms, but the far-right itself working hard and tirelessly over several years, even before the refugee crisis, to create a complete, emotionally compelling, simplistic narrative from a complex, often downright chaotic series of problems, both real and fake.

The left caused the immigration problem by starting 3rd world mass-migration, and escalated the problem by rejecting any and all solutions other than insisting on maintaining course full-speed ahead. The left's refusal to accept responsibility for having started the problem only serves to show the nationalists and far-right have been right the entire time in asserting the only way to stop the 3rd world mass-migration problem is to stop doing it. Britain taking control of its own borders is a good start, and hopefully the rest of the EU as well.

Liriena wrote:Question to Leavers... Do white, totally not Muslim Argentinians still get to dream of a life in rural England? Or should I start flirting with the Irish? :P

Unless you can find quickly find yourself a British and preferably English anchor husband or anchor wife, then most likely not.

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The East Marches
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Postby The East Marches » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:02 pm

Olerand wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:Well I'm leaving now, going to go do something that requires no mental activity.

As for the UK, I hope us Americans wish up and don't give you any favors when you come asking for a new trade agreement. This special relationship has lasted too long

Oh the melodrama! Anglo-Saxons are supposed to be tamer than this.


We like to indulge it from time to time. Pure serious when it comes to our wallets though.
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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:02 pm

Liriena wrote:
The East Marches wrote:
I thought you were American?

Nope. Argentinian.

And before anybody asks, I believe the Falklands belong to their inhabitants, and they can do with them as they wish.


With the results tonight Falkland may well call for a referendum.
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Yeldarid
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Founded: May 06, 2015
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Postby Yeldarid » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:02 pm

Looks like a Brexit. It really will lead to a recession, as the big financial firms will move to Frankfurt. Safe Harbour for European data probably won't apply to the UK thanks to the Snowden revelations so that means that the big tech firms won't want to invest in Britain either.
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Postby Sanabel » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:02 pm

Vermont is nice this time of year...
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Kelinfort
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Postby Kelinfort » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:02 pm

Olerand wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:Well I'm leaving now, going to go do something that requires no mental activity.

As for the UK, I hope us Americans wish up and don't give you any favors when you come asking for a new trade agreement. This special relationship has lasted too long

Oh the melodrama! Anglo-Saxons are supposed to be tamer than this.

We may as well side with the French, at this point.

But melodrama? Nah. It's been too long as it is, plus they clearly aren't doing any favors for us politically speaking.

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Roski
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Postby Roski » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:02 pm

Shofercia wrote:
Valaran wrote:
Its been called.

I'll be making plans to bugger off to the US.


I can recruit for some companies in California. What industry?


Souseiseki wrote:
I DO NOT GIVE A SINGLE FUCKING SHIT ABOUT YOUR RANTS ABOUT THE MUSLIMS AND THE ELTIES

YOU HAVE JUST STARTED A GLOBAL RECESSION AND DESTROYED THE EU AND THE UK

WE MIGHT LEGITIMATELY HAVE ANOTHER LOW INTENSITY CIVIL WAR

SPAIN, ARGENTINA AND RUSSIA ARE DROOLING

LET ME REPEAT: I DO NOT GIVE A SINGLE SHIT

does this address your concerns?


Let the Annexation of DonBass, erm, Scotland, commence!

Damn dude, your fear mongering is just...


New haven america wrote:Can't wait to see how Scotland reacts to this.


We Wantz Independenz Nao!


greed and death wrote:property values in the UK just fell 50% I hope you are renting.


Oh you


Freefall11111 wrote:Time to figure out which US state is the most pleasant to live in.


California!


Russkiymir wrote:Yay. Yay. Yay.


The neoliberal sjw anti-Putin elitist a are crying.!?!!!? Over an expression of sovereignty?!!?


We've got them for Kosovo!


We've got them for Kosovo!!!!


We've got them for Kosovo!!!!!!!!!1!!!!!


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :clap:


This just in: Russia was not involved in the Referendum. The EU elites decided to ignore the voters and got fucked. This isn't a victory for Russia. This isn't a defeat for Russia. Not everything revolves around Russia.


I'm gonna call it a defeat for Russia

now the English will not be giving the money to all those other countries who buy Russian oil.
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Postby Napkiraly » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:02 pm

Freefall11111 wrote:Looks like most suggestions are CA, WA, MA, NY, or TX. I appreciate the input.

Maine is nice albeit quite rural and empty.

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Great Feng
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Postby Great Feng » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:03 pm

Roski wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:Well I'm leaving now, going to go do something that requires no mental activity.

As for the UK, I hope us Americans wish up and don't give you any favors when you come asking for a new trade agreement. This special relationship has lasted too long


I think it's time to add our next four states.

Roll out the tanks, it appears Britain needs a lesson from Uncle Sam

Anschluss!

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Souseiseki
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Postby Souseiseki » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:03 pm

The East Marches wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:i want to try this again

do any leave voters anything to say about what they're just done except "i don't care"


You are making a mountain out of a molehill. Your previous post was impressively apocalyptic.


how is apocalyptic? do you actually not get how fragile the situation in the UK and EU now is?

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Souseiseki wrote:
https://dwq4do82y8xi7.cloudfront.net/x/6FZu3qBz/

so do you think sinn fein will actually get their border poll? do you think support for scottish independence will go up or down?


Oh no!
A years worth of inflation!
TERRIFYING!


inflation is 10%?
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Postby Krazakistan » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:03 pm

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Postby Patridam » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:03 pm

Arkiasis wrote:http://i.imgur.com/J4NeQUv.png

Asia is shitting its pants.


India couldn't give a fuck.
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Postby JDPON » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:03 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm going to confess something to the board right now, I'm depressed. Quite seriously depressed, the only thing I get up for each day is to go to work in a fish factory.
I get up to go to this fish factory, and nothing else, honestly, nothing else - so that I can afford to pay for the Master's degree I have to part-fund.

I have to part-fund it because I was depressed when I completed my undergrad degree, and missed out on the required grade for my fees to be waived. This wouldn't have been the problem, I'd saved up, but my fees came back two grand more than I'd expected.

I'd hoped that, now I've finally amassed the money to pay off this debt, I'd be able to finish my Master's degree, complete the pieces of coursework that I've simply not done because, well, I literally haven't left my bed except to go to a fish factory since February, and hopefully graduate to a doctorate.

But this... I think my future is honestly fucked. I'd semi-joked about it, but...
I'm honestly not sure how much I have left to live for. It rather depends on what state things are in, in one year's time.
I suppose there's a year for things to improve but... I don't know if I'll make it that long.


that fucking sucks mate but you're still a white male living a first-world country who now is only slightly less capable of predating upon the third world idk if ur future is that fucked or whatever but then again i'm not you so who knows
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:03 pm

Arkiasis wrote:http://i.imgur.com/J4NeQUv.png

Asia is shitting its pants.


India is fine though thankfully. British as ever.
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Postby Kelinfort » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:03 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:
JDPON wrote:
liberals are literally losing their shit right now


True liberals are celebrating.

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Postby Corrian » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:03 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
JDPON wrote:what makes this really, really funny is that if the uk had remained, in a few decades they'd be the leading power in europe but i guess some people just can't see past the imediate

Brexit won on the back of the elderly who have zero skin in the game and are ignorant as fuck.

Elderly fucking everything up as usual. Seriously, the elderly are ruining everything. I hate to generalize, but I literally consider them to be the biggest problem in the US. Just ugh.
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Postby Wolfenium » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:03 pm

Arkiasis wrote:http://i.imgur.com/J4NeQUv.png

Asia is shitting its pants.


Why is India going green? >_>
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Postby Galloism » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:04 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm going to confess something to the board right now, I'm depressed. Quite seriously depressed, the only thing I get up for each day is to go to work in a fish factory.
I get up to go to this fish factory, and nothing else, honestly, nothing else - so that I can afford to pay for the Master's degree I have to part-fund.

I have to part-fund it because I was depressed when I completed my undergrad degree, and missed out on the required grade for my fees to be waived. This wouldn't have been the problem, I'd saved up, but my fees came back two grand more than I'd expected.

I'd hoped that, now I've finally amassed the money to pay off this debt, I'd be able to finish my Master's degree, complete the pieces of coursework that I've simply not done because, well, I literally haven't left my bed except to go to a fish factory since February, and hopefully graduate to a doctorate.

But this... I think my future is honestly fucked. I'd semi-joked about it, but...
I'm honestly not sure how much I have left to live for. It rather depends on what state things are in, in one year's time.
I suppose there's a year for things to improve but... I don't know if I'll make it that long.

Depending on what your masters degree is in, we could probably get you a work visa in the states.

I'll get you a cowboy hat and teach you proper southern diction, like how to say "hi ya'll".
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Postby Stormaen » Thu Jun 23, 2016 9:04 pm

I went to bed thinking Remain was assured a comfortable victory. I've awoken this morning and the it's looking like a narrow Leave victory.

What the hell happened there?

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