The Jaclean empire wrote:Not just America.
of course their are more oligarchies out there... but that's not the point, the point is we are one now.
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by Ketora » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:37 am
The Jaclean empire wrote:Not just America.
by Havenburgh » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:38 am
GreatestBanks wrote:Havenburgh wrote:Its everywhere. The big company and the banks control the houses. Hillary, Romney, Trump, they are all controlled by them. How? Because the companies give them millions for their campaigns and in return the candidates champion what the companies want.
You're wrong with Trump. Trump gets almost all of his money from him self-funding his campaign
by Ketora » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:38 am
GreatestBanks wrote:Havenburgh wrote:Its everywhere. The big company and the banks control the houses. Hillary, Romney, Trump, they are all controlled by them. How? Because the companies give them millions for their campaigns and in return the candidates champion what the companies want.
You're wrong with Trump. Trump gets almost all of his money from him self-funding his campaign
by GreatestBanks » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:38 am
Havenburgh wrote:GreatestBanks wrote:Direct democracy today could never work.
And that's true, but it seems that the words ''Democracy'' and ''republic'' or ''Dictatorship'' and ''oligarchy'' have seemingly lost their meanings.
Direct democracy can work in small groups. In countries in modern size, no the population is way to large. Thats also why a libertarian system would never work either. And words like socialism and communism have lost their meaning. Tell me, whats the first thing you think of when I say communism?
by GreatestBanks » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:39 am
by Ketora » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:39 am
by Havenburgh » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:39 am
by GreatestBanks » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:40 am
by Havenburgh » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:41 am
GreatestBanks wrote:Havenburgh wrote:Direct democracy can work in small groups. In countries in modern size, no the population is way to large. Thats also why a libertarian system would never work either. And words like socialism and communism have lost their meaning. Tell me, whats the first thing you think of when I say communism?
First thing when you say communism I think of Marx and ''Das Capital'' Then I think of Cuba, Vietnam, former USSR, redistribution of wealth, destruction of private property and killing capitalists.
by Ketora » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:42 am
by Havenburgh » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:42 am
by GreatestBanks » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:43 am
Havenburgh wrote:GreatestBanks wrote:First thing when you say communism I think of Marx and ''Das Capital'' Then I think of Cuba, Vietnam, former USSR, redistribution of wealth, destruction of private property and killing capitalists.
Okay Marx, your smarter than most. Most people automatically think dictatorship and killing everyone when really its the exact opposite. The greatest example of a true communist state would actually be the smurfs.Ketora wrote:
so he basically is a big company
In an essence, yes
by GreatestBanks » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:43 am
by Ketora » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:44 am
by Ketora » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:44 am
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by New Grestin » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:45 am
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by GreatestBanks » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:45 am
by Escanthea » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:46 am
by Ketora » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:46 am
GreatestBanks wrote:Ketora wrote:
...and maybe some sort of mass persecution of Hispanic people... along with more support for the economic elite
Deportation of law breaking illegal immigrants* big difference
His tax plan will eliminate income taxes for single filers making under 25,000 and married fillers making under 50,000. That seems like he's being nice to the poor.
I think you should actually read his plan:
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/tax-reform
by Havenburgh » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:46 am
GreatestBanks wrote:Havenburgh wrote:Okay Marx, your smarter than most. Most people automatically think dictatorship and killing everyone when really its the exact opposite. The greatest example of a true communist state would actually be the smurfs.
In an essence, yes
Trump actually has pretty good policy ideas.
Communism is the last stage of society (according to Marx at least)
First, according to Marx, is primitivism/tribal societies, then capitalism, then socialism or social democracy, then communism.
by Ketora » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:47 am
Escanthea wrote:What was the trigger for this? Usually you post an article to some recent event that you think symbolizes the finality of this political transition when you post a topic like this.
by Havenburgh » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:47 am
by GreatestBanks » Thu Nov 26, 2015 9:47 am
Ketora wrote:GreatestBanks wrote:Deportation of law breaking illegal immigrants* big difference
His tax plan will eliminate income taxes for single filers making under 25,000 and married fillers making under 50,000. That seems like he's being nice to the poor.
I think you should actually read his plan:
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/tax-reform
oh well that's not as bad...
but this is not about what these people are doing,
it's about that the majority has lost almost all power
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