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What gender do you identify as?

Cisgender Female
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6%
Cisgender Male
122
84%
Transgender Female
7
5%
Transgender Male
0
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Other
8
5%
 
Total votes : 146

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Furry Alairia and Algeria
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:38 pm

Devvo Mate wrote:
Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:This isn't the place to talk about species, nor is it the place to talk about the social status of furries or otherkin.


Genuine question, do you parents know about your fetish, and are they proud of you?

The furry fandom is not a fetish. Likewise, I'm won't bother talking to you.

As for the poll: Agender. Leaning towards female.
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Postby Arcturus Novus » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:39 pm

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Arcturus Novus wrote:Not really. It's like, you don't like any of the clubs at your school, because you don't fit in. So you start your own. At least, that's how I put it. I understand that non-binary genders are completely foreign and odd to a lot of people. And honestly, with the heavy emphasis on "man/woman only" that Western societies have, I'm unsurprised.


So you just say fuck it, I'm slightly different so I'll just make some shit up?

To put it bluntly, yeah. You're a damned smart bloke, Blazed.
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Postby Trevor Phillip Enterprises » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:40 pm

Second Blazing wrote:
Arcturus Novus wrote:Not really. It's like, you don't like any of the clubs at your school, because you don't fit in. So you start your own. At least, that's how I put it. I understand that non-binary genders are completely foreign and odd to a lot of people. And honestly, with the heavy emphasis on "man/woman only" that Western societies have, I'm unsurprised.


So you just say fuck it, I'm slightly different so I'll just make some shit up?


Why not? If you are not gonna work well with the other groups, just make your own, with blackjack and hookers.
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Postby Halflands » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:40 pm

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Postby The Alexanderians » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:40 pm

Trevor Phillip Enterprises wrote:
Second Blazing wrote:
So you just say fuck it, I'm slightly different so I'll just make some shit up?


Why not? If you are not gonna work well with the other groups, just make your own, with blackjack and hookers.

and in some the hookers have penises
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Postby The Princes of the Universe » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:40 pm

Second Blazing wrote:
Arcturus Novus wrote:Not really. It's like, you don't like any of the clubs at your school, because you don't fit in. So you start your own. At least, that's how I put it. I understand that non-binary genders are completely foreign and odd to a lot of people. And honestly, with the heavy emphasis on "man/woman only" that Western societies have, I'm unsurprised.

So you just say fuck it, I'm slightly different so I'll just make some shit up?

There's a world of difference between Tumblr-style tucutes who think merely not adhering strictly to one's culture's gender roles is grounds for claiming to be trans and people who genuinely don't fit into the man-woman dichotomy.
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Postby Confederate Ramenia » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:41 pm

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:
Devvo Mate wrote:
Genuine question, do you parents know about your fetish, and are they proud of you?

The furry fandom is not a fetish. Likewise, I'm won't bother talking to you.

As for the poll: Agender. Leaning towards female.


How many people that you know off the internet know that you are a furry, and who are they? And how many of them know you are agender and leaning towards female? How do they feel about it?
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Postby Arcturus Novus » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:41 pm

Trevor Phillip Enterprises wrote:
Second Blazing wrote:
So you just say fuck it, I'm slightly different so I'll just make some shit up?


Why not? If you are not gonna work well with the other groups, just make your own, with blackjack and hookers.

Blackjack is for peasants. Uno is the best card game.
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Trevor Phillip Enterprises wrote:
Why not? If you are not gonna work well with the other groups, just make your own, with blackjack and hookers.

and in some the hookers have penises

I have literally no problem with that.
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Postby Second Blazing » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:42 pm

Cyllea wrote:
Second Blazing wrote:
So you just say fuck it, I'm slightly different so I'll just make some shit up?


4 pages in and the thread has already devolved to whining about non-binary genders, calling them fake and accusing non-binary people of being tumblr feminazis. Fantastic.

I'm personally a MtF Transgender person. My parents do not know, and I plan on hiding it until I move out in a year and a half.


That I understand, what I don't get is people who claim to be Jeff on Monday and Jessica on Tuesday and then back to Jeff on Wednesday. Gender is the way your brain is wired, you are either a man or a woman. Saying that you are both, neither or bounce back and forth between the two undermines the legitimate struggle of transsexuals to find acceptance in their proper sex.
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:43 pm

Confederate Ramenia wrote:
Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:The furry fandom is not a fetish. Likewise, I'm won't bother talking to you.

As for the poll: Agender. Leaning towards female.


How many people that you know off the internet know that you are a furry, and who are they? And how many of them know you are agender and leaning towards female? How do they feel about it?

The underlined I'm not answering because it is not relevant to the thread. Likewise, I'd really like it if people would stop mentioning me and me being a furry. I really would, because the only place this has to be is in telegrams

Everyone who reads my sig would know considering I prefer to be called Furry, rather than he/she/it, but less abut my lack of masculinity; and no one really feels much about it.
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Postby Second Blazing » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:43 pm

Arcturus Novus wrote:
Second Blazing wrote:
So you just say fuck it, I'm slightly different so I'll just make some shit up?

To put it bluntly, yeah. You're a damned smart bloke, Blazed.


And you don't think that takes away from people who actually struggle with being a woman born in a man's body or vice versa?
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Postby Devvo Mate » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:45 pm

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:The furry fandom is not a fetish. Likewise, I'm won't bother talking to you.

As for the poll: Agender. Leaning towards female.


It is literally by definition a fetish, or a paraphilia if we want to play semantics. Why is it only furries that have to make such a weird lifestyle out of what they're into? Like I don't give a fuck that you wank to anthropomorphic animal pictures on the internet, go ahead, but why turn it into a lifestyle? People with foot fetishes don't do it.

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Postby Arcturus Novus » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:45 pm

Second Blazing wrote:
Arcturus Novus wrote:To put it bluntly, yeah. You're a damned smart bloke, Blazed.


And you don't think that takes away from people who actually struggle with being a woman born in a man's body or vice versa?

I haven't had any of the trans individuals I know speak ill about my gender identity, so I really couldn't tell you.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:45 pm

Devvo Mate wrote:
Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:The furry fandom is not a fetish. Likewise, I'm won't bother talking to you.

As for the poll: Agender. Leaning towards female.


It is literally by definition a fetish, or a paraphilia if we want to play semantics. Why is it only furries that have to make such a weird lifestyle out of what they're into? Like I don't give a fuck that you wank to anthropomorphic animal pictures on the internet, go ahead, but why turn it into a lifestyle? People with foot fetishes don't do it.


You quite literally have no idea what you're talking about.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:46 pm

Devvo Mate wrote:
Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:The furry fandom is not a fetish. Likewise, I'm won't bother talking to you.

As for the poll: Agender. Leaning towards female.


It is literally by definition a fetish, or a paraphilia if we want to play semantics. Why is it only furries that have to make such a weird lifestyle out of what they're into? Like I don't give a fuck that you wank to anthropomorphic animal pictures on the internet, go ahead, but why turn it into a lifestyle? People with foot fetishes don't do it.

Thread's not about furries, dude.
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Postby Cyllea » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:46 pm

Devvo Mate wrote:
Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:The furry fandom is not a fetish. Likewise, I'm won't bother talking to you.

As for the poll: Agender. Leaning towards female.


It is literally by definition a fetish, or a paraphilia if we want to play semantics. Why is it only furries that have to make such a weird lifestyle out of what they're into? Like I don't give a fuck that you wank to anthropomorphic animal pictures on the internet, go ahead, but why turn it into a lifestyle? People with foot fetishes don't do it.


The furry fandom isn't just pornography; it includes all type of art. Drawing, music, ect

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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:46 pm

Devvo Mate wrote:
Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:The furry fandom is not a fetish. Likewise, I'm won't bother talking to you.

As for the poll: Agender. Leaning towards female.


It is literally by definition a fetish, or a paraphilia if we want to play semantics. Why is it only furries that have to make such a weird lifestyle out of what they're into? Like I don't give a fuck that you wank to anthropomorphic animal pictures on the internet, go ahead, but why turn it into a lifestyle? People with foot fetishes don't do it.
Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:I'd really like it if people would stop mentioning me and me being a furry. I really would, because the only place this has to be is in telegrams

Can we please stop talking about furries? I'm uncomfortable enough, and the poll is about gender, not species.
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Postby Devvo Mate » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:46 pm

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Postby Cyllea » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:48 pm

Second Blazing wrote:
Cyllea wrote:
4 pages in and the thread has already devolved to whining about non-binary genders, calling them fake and accusing non-binary people of being tumblr feminazis. Fantastic.

I'm personally a MtF Transgender person. My parents do not know, and I plan on hiding it until I move out in a year and a half.


That I understand, what I don't get is people who claim to be Jeff on Monday and Jessica on Tuesday and then back to Jeff on Wednesday. Gender is the way your brain is wired, you are either a man or a woman. Saying that you are both, neither or bounce back and forth between the two undermines the legitimate struggle of transsexuals to find acceptance in their proper sex.


I don't see how it undermines the struggle of transgender people. Let them identify as they want without bothering them.

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Postby Devvo Mate » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:48 pm

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:Can we please stop talking about furries? I'm uncomfortable enough, and the poll is about gender, not species.


Furry isn't a species. You are by definition Homo sapiens sapiens, and you will never not be.

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Postby Torisakia » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:48 pm

Devvo Mate wrote:
Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:The furry fandom is not a fetish. Likewise, I'm won't bother talking to you.

As for the poll: Agender. Leaning towards female.


It is literally by definition a fetish, or a paraphilia if we want to play semantics. Why is it only furries that have to make such a weird lifestyle out of what they're into? Like I don't give a fuck that you wank to anthropomorphic animal pictures on the internet, go ahead, but why turn it into a lifestyle? People with foot fetishes don't do it.

Regardless, they're people dammit. I don't think they should be judged on what they do, or what they do and how it relates to gender. I make a weird lifestyle out of what I do. Believe me, you wouldn't want to know how many dakimakura's I'm planning on buying.

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Postby Second Blazing » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:49 pm

Cyllea wrote:
Second Blazing wrote:
That I understand, what I don't get is people who claim to be Jeff on Monday and Jessica on Tuesday and then back to Jeff on Wednesday. Gender is the way your brain is wired, you are either a man or a woman. Saying that you are both, neither or bounce back and forth between the two undermines the legitimate struggle of transsexuals to find acceptance in their proper sex.


I don't see how it undermines the struggle of transgender people. Let them identify as they want without bothering them.


I said transsexual not transgender, something even spell check doesn't recognize, and it recognized fucknuggets.
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Postby The Princes of the Universe » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:49 pm

Thread's not about furries, folks, and the person more than one of you insists on badgering about it has asked that you not. Do you want the mods to lock it and hand out more red text or shall we get back on track of our own accord?
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Postby Devvo Mate » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:49 pm

Second Blazing wrote:That I understand, what I don't get is people who claim to be Jeff on Monday and Jessica on Tuesday and then back to Jeff on Wednesday. Gender is the way your brain is wired, you are either a man or a woman. Saying that you are both, neither or bounce back and forth between the two undermines the legitimate struggle of transsexuals to find acceptance in their proper sex.


Yeah that's not how gender works.

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