دكتر ستراينجلوف or: How I Learned to Love the Bomb

[National Socialist Republics of Europe]

Yes, I agree.

Well, your case is hopeless.

Would you explain me why a sovereign country should not have the right to develop its own nuclear program?

[Benuty]

North Korea is a sovereign country and has the right to develop its own nuclear program just like any other country.

Still agree?

Yes, I agree.

Given they claim to be run by a deity, and have been embroiled in war since 1950 I doubt they have the domestic resources to develop such a problem. Then again Division 39 has run the Norths criminal empire for decades now so they just might.

[Murkwood]

Well, your case is hopeless.

Would you explain me why a sovereign country should not have the right to develop its own nuclear program?

If the country is fucking insane, then it shouldn't be allowed nukes.

[National Socialist Republics of Europe]

Yes, I agree.

Given they claim to be run by a deity, and have been embroiled in war since 1950 I doubt they have the domestic resources to develop such a problem. Then again Division 39 has run the Norths criminal empire for decades now so they just might.

I didn't say that I support the North-Korean regime. I said that North Korea, being a sovereign country, has the right to develop its own nuclear program. And so Iran.

[Ainin]

If Russia wanted to, they could turn the world into a giant sphere of plate glass. If Russia wanted to, they could invade Ontario with a brigade of paratroopers and massacre the entire population of the city of Mississauga. If Russia wanted to, they could melt the entire Greenlandic archipelago.

Obviously Russia is a stellar example of restraint and human rights.

But Russia isn't surrounded by/constantly under attack by people who want to see their country destroyed.

Not my point. My point is that "it could be worse" isn't a vindication.

[National Socialist Republics of Europe]

Would you explain me why a sovereign country should not have the right to develop its own nuclear program?

If the country is fucking insane, then it shouldn't be allowed nukes.

According to what legislation?
Besides, define "insane".

[Nature-Spirits]

Without cause? You keep believing that.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ys-UN.html
http://electronicintifada.net/content/s ... forces/356
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stat/deaths.html

^ Proving my point.

[Murkwood]

If the country is fucking insane, then it shouldn't be allowed nukes.

According to what legislation?
Besides, define "insane".

in·sane
inˈsān
adjective

1. in a state of mind that prevents normal perception, behavior, or social interaction; seriously mentally ill.
"certifying patients as clinically insane"
synonyms: mentally ill, mentally disordered, of unsound mind, certifiable;

2. North Korea
"North Korea is fucking insane"
synonyms: Iran, Saudi Arabia, Turkmenistan;

[Murkwood]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... ys-UN.html
http://electronicintifada.net/content/s ... forces/356
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/stat/deaths.html

^ Proving my point.

The last two are from clearly biased websites, while the first is just Hamas's human shields.

[Benuty]

According to what legislation?
Besides, define "insane".

in·sane
inˈsān
adjective

1. in a state of mind that prevents normal perception, behavior, or social interaction; seriously mentally ill.
"certifying patients as clinically insane"
synonyms: mentally ill, mentally disordered, of unsound mind, certifiable;

2. North Korea
"North Korea is fucking insane"
synonyms: Iran, Saudi Arabia, Turkmenistan;

That definition is inadequate.

[National Socialist Republics of Europe]

According to what legislation?
Besides, define "insane".

in·sane
inˈsān
adjective

1. in a state of mind that prevents normal perception, behavior, or social interaction; seriously mentally ill.
"certifying patients as clinically insane"
synonyms: mentally ill, mentally disordered, of unsound mind, certifiable;

2. North Korea
"North Korea is fucking insane"
synonyms: Iran, Saudi Arabia, Turkmenistan;

So you think there are "insane" countries?
This adjective can be applied only to individuals, not to countries.
And Ahmadinejad wasn't insane, neither Rohani.

[Karaginsky]

The only reason people hate Israel is because they routinely massacre Palestinians without cause. So really, it's their own fault.

Without cause? You keep believing that.

Oh so wait, now it's ok to routinely massacre civilians so long as you have "cause"?

And Israel has no cause. The last bout of fighting between Israel and Palesitne resulted in 2000+ Palestinian civilians dead, of which waht, 500 were children? And how many Israeli citizens died...1. No 10, 100, but 1. This doesn't even cover the half a million Palestinians displaced and in dire need of food or services, or the subsequent Israeli seizure of 1000 acres of Palestinian land in violation of international law.

Iran may be the one foaming at the mouth, but the Israeli's have committed more war crimes, and they are the ones with the nukes.

[Gauthier]

in·sane
inˈsān
adjective

1. in a state of mind that prevents normal perception, behavior, or social interaction; seriously mentally ill.
"certifying patients as clinically insane"
synonyms: mentally ill, mentally disordered, of unsound mind, certifiable;

2. North Korea
"North Korea is fucking insane"
synonyms: Iran, Saudi Arabia, Turkmenistan;

So you think there are "insane" countries?
This adjective can be applied only to individuals, not to countries.
And Ahmadinejad wasn't insane, neither Rohani.

"Insane" = Not White Majority

[Karaginsky]

According to what legislation?
Besides, define "insane".

in·sane
inˈsān
adjective

1. in a state of mind that prevents normal perception, behavior, or social interaction; seriously mentally ill.
"certifying patients as clinically insane"
synonyms: mentally ill, mentally disordered, of unsound mind, certifiable;

2. North Korea
"North Korea is fucking insane"
synonyms: Iran, Saudi Arabia, Turkmenistan;

You can't fight facts with opinion and then call said opinion fact.

[Murkwood]

So you think there are "insane" countries?
This adjective can be applied only to individuals, not to countries.
And Ahmadinejad wasn't insane, neither Rohani.

"Insane" = Not White Majority

So you don't North Korea is insane?

Plus, the USSR, Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy were also insane.

[Murkwood]

in·sane
inˈsān
adjective

1. in a state of mind that prevents normal perception, behavior, or social interaction; seriously mentally ill.
"certifying patients as clinically insane"
synonyms: mentally ill, mentally disordered, of unsound mind, certifiable;

2. North Korea
"North Korea is fucking insane"
synonyms: Iran, Saudi Arabia, Turkmenistan;

So you think there are "insane" countries?
This adjective can be applied only to individuals, not to countries.
And Ahmadinejad wasn't insane, neither Rohani.

I think that there are countries ruled by individuals who are willingly or otherwise blind to the truth.

You mean Ahmadinejad "There are no gays in Iran"? Ahmadinejad "The Holocaust never happened"?

[Karaginsky]

"Insane" = Not White Majority

So you don't North Korea is insane?

Plus, the USSR, Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy were also insane.

Now you're just totally derailing the topic with vague and ambiguous claims of insanity to justify your point.

[Benuty]

"Insane" = Not White Majority

So you don't North Korea is insane?

Plus, the USSR, Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy were also insane.

Mental illness, and insanity are at the very base of things two completely different concepts one being psychological the other a legal trapping.

[National Socialist Republics of Europe]

"Insane" = Not White Majority

So you don't North Korea is insane?

Plus, the USSR, Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy were also insane.

Why a country should be "insane"? I wonder there are also "national psichologists"?

[Nature-Spirits]

^ Proving my point.

The last two are from clearly biased websites, while the first is just Hamas's human shields.

http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/08/04/gaza ... -civilians
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... lians.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28439404
And they just keep on coming.

[Murkwood]

So you don't North Korea is insane?

Plus, the USSR, Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy were also insane.

Mental illness, and insanity are at the very base of things two completely different concepts one being psychological the other a legal trapping.

I don't mean "insane" in the literal sense. It's a hyperbolic statement meant to convey the perceived and actual disconnect that some leaders/countries have with the truth.

[National Socialist Republics of Europe]

Mental illness, and insanity are at the very base of things two completely different concepts one being psychological the other a legal trapping.

I don't mean "insane" in the literal sense. It's a hyperbolic statement meant to convey the perceived and actual disconnect that some leaders/countries have with the truth.

Some iranian examples of this supposed "disconnect"?

[Greater Istanistan]

Really, I support the Iranian bomb. Seeing as Israel is a mad dog when it comes to nukes, an atomic Iran would serve as a useful counterbalance.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

Samson option, anyone? Is nobody worried by the fact that Israel promised to nuke Muslim holy sites and Western capitols?

[Murkwood]

The last two are from clearly biased websites, while the first is just Hamas's human shields.

http://www.hrw.org/news/2014/08/04/gaza ... -civilians
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... lians.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28439404
And they just keep on coming.

Those articles are all saying the same thing. Yes, many people died. But that's not Israel's fault. Israel sent out warning to people, remember? It's Hamas's fault. They are the ones using human shields and firing on non-military targets.

Also, Human Rights watch isn't the best of organizations.

[Blakk Metal]

Iran is still a tyrannical theocratic hellhole.

Pakistan is a country noted for having it's government hosting terrorists (Osama Bin-Laden included), having military dictators eliminating elected leaders, tribal areas with Sharia law enforced by local militias, enacting genocides in its provinces and starting wars with its neighbours. Also it isn't a member country to the NNPT.

Why don't we see anyone complaining about the Pakistani nuclear arsenal? Double standard, pretty much?

Everyone and their mother has bitched about that.